Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-14 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 2:01 AM -0800 11/14/02, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Nov 14, 2002, Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote: Why can't someone with a fresh stable do an ls -R / And someone with a fresh current do the same? Because that's only part of the story. What about people updating from other supported "source

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-14 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 06:01:46AM +1100, Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote: > Why can't someone with a fresh stable do an ls -R / > And someone with a fresh current do the same? Because that's only part of the story. What about people updating from other supported "source upgrade" versions (4.0, 4.1,

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-13 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 10:17 PM -0800 11/12/02, Doug Barton wrote: David O'Brien wrote: On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 08:58:44AM +, Mark Murray wrote: > IMVHO, the perl wrapper should be removed altogether, and the > perl port's "use.port" symlink-creating feature should be used > instead. > Do we have consens

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-13 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton
+---[ Garance A Drosihn ]-- | At 10:58 PM + 11/12/02, Mark Murray wrote: | > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 08:15:09AM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: | >> | >> > I would rather have some explicit list of filenames where we have | >> > good reason to delete them, and then ada

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-13 Thread Mark Murray
> >Anyone have a trash-box that we can do a 4-STABLE --> 5-CURRENT > >upgrade on to diff the file list? > > > >I have a box that I'd rather not trash, but if need be I'll use that. > > This is what I am planning to do. I am a little short on free time > right now, what is the "timetable for need"

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-13 Thread Mark Murray
> Where are we with making lang/perl5's package default selected in > sysinstall? We are discussing it under your excellent chairmanship :-). > While I've been opposed to the inclusion of the wrapper since before it > was imported, I think its removal would be well accompanied by the > sysinstall

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-12 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On (2002/11/12 22:17), Doug Barton wrote: > In case another vote is needed, I've always been opposed to the wrapper. > tobez and I put some work into getting the use.perl script in the port > to DTRT shortly after the demise of base perl, and I'm still willing to > help fine tune it if needed. I

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-12 Thread Doug Barton
David O'Brien wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 08:58:44AM +, Mark Murray wrote: > > IMVHO, the perl wrapper should be removed altogether, and the > > perl port's "use.port" symlink-creating feature should be used > > instead. > > Do we have consensus on this? The perl wrapper really isn't

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-12 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 10:58:12PM +, Mark Murray wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 08:15:09AM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > > > > I would rather have some explicit list of filenames where we have > > > good reason to delete them, and then adapt the above script to at > > > least tell t

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-12 Thread Mark Murray
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 08:15:09AM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > > I would rather have some explicit list of filenames where we have > > good reason to delete them, and then adapt the above script to at > > least tell the user about the remaining files. Perhaps even delete > > them, but o

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-12 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 08:15:09AM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > I would rather have some explicit list of filenames where we have > good reason to delete them, and then adapt the above script to at > least tell the user about the remaining files. Perhaps even delete > them, but only *after*

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-12 Thread Mark Murray
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 12:34:23PM +, Mark Murray wrote: > > > Do we have consensus on this? The perl wrapper really isn't working out > > > for all the cases I hoped it would when I committed it. > > > > Yes, I think so. DES (The author?) doesn't mind. I'm for removal and so is > > Kris. >

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 12:34:23PM +, Mark Murray wrote: > > Do we have consensus on this? The perl wrapper really isn't working out > > for all the cases I hoped it would when I committed it. > > Yes, I think so. DES (The author?) doesn't mind. I'm for removal and so is > Kris. Why does DES

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-12 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 11:13 PM + 11/8/02, Mark Murray wrote: > > I mean *all* the cruft -- old modules and config files, > > deprecated binaries and man pages, even old shlibs if it's safe. > > I agree with you, and I was giving an example that a lesser > form of this is already required during the upgrade.

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-12 Thread Mark Murray
> On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 08:58:44AM +, Mark Murray wrote: > > IMVHO, the perl wrapper should be removed altogether, and the > > perl port's "use.port" symlink-creating feature should be used > > instead. > > Do we have consensus on this? The perl wrapper really isn't working out > for all th

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 08:58:44AM +, Mark Murray wrote: > IMVHO, the perl wrapper should be removed altogether, and the > perl port's "use.port" symlink-creating feature should be used > instead. Do we have consensus on this? The perl wrapper really isn't working out for all the cases I hope

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-08 Thread Mark Murray
> > I mean *all* the cruft -- old modules and config files, deprecated binaries > > and man pages, even old shlibs if it's safe. > > I agree with you, and I was giving an example that a lesser form of > this is already required during the upgrade. > > It would be VERY useful if someone could deve

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-08 Thread Terry Lambert
Ray Kohler wrote: > > Yes, it's already a mandatory step (remove old includes, or you can't > > build C++ programs). > > I mean *all* the cruft -- old modules and config files, deprecated binaries > and man pages, even old shlibs if it's safe. You need a registration system which can subsume all

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-08 Thread Kris Kennaway
CTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper > > > > On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 06:54:37AM -0500, Ray Kohler wrote: > > > > > Then we're back to the problem of there being a complete stale perl in > > > the base syste

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-08 Thread Ray Kohler
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 8 16:15:05 2002 > Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:02:58 -0800 > From: Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Ray Kohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper >

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-08 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 06:54:37AM -0500, Ray Kohler wrote: > Then we're back to the problem of there being a complete stale perl in > the base system after a 4.X->5.X upgrade, but then, I've always thought > that "clean out the cruft" ought to be a mandatory step in upgrading. Yes, it's already

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-08 Thread Ray Kohler
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 8 04:15:04 2002 > To: Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper > Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 08:58:44 + > From: Mark Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > IMVHO, the perl wrapper s

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-08 Thread Mark Murray
IMVHO, the perl wrapper should be removed altogether, and the perl port's "use.port" symlink-creating feature should be used instead. M > Can someone explain why the perl wrapper needs to be hardlinked to > perl5.6.1? > > The problem I am seeing is this: > > USE_PERL5=yes in a port adds the fol

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-07 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 05:47:51PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Can someone explain why the perl wrapper needs to be hardlinked to > perl5.6.1? revision 1.5 date: 2002-06-07 18:55:42; author: obrien; state: Exp; lines: +1 -0 Install a "perl5.6.1" wrapper. I think

Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper

2002-11-07 Thread Maxim Sobolev
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 05:47:51PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Can someone explain why the perl wrapper needs to be hardlinked to > perl5.6.1? > > The problem I am seeing is this: > > USE_PERL5=yes in a port adds the following BUILD_DEPENDS: > > enigma# make -V BUILD_DEPENDS > perl5.6.1:/usr/p