Re: Removal of catman from base

2017-09-20 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi, > On 12 Sep 2017, at 22:20, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > In message , Lyndon Nerenberg > writes: >>> That was actually not why catman was brought into the world: ATT/USL >>> thought text-processing was The Goods so they unbundled it base SVR >>> and invented catman to make up fo

Re: Removal of catman from base

2017-09-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Warner Losh writes: >Back in school, our SunOS 3, SunOS 4 and VAX running BSD 4.{2,3} we had to >run a special ditroff [...] ditroff = Device Independent Troff The original troff were hardwired to the C/A/T photo-typesetter which by the time of SVR bare existed in the mar

Re: Removal of catman from base

2017-09-12 Thread Warner Losh
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > On Tue, 12 Sep 2017, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > I'm pretty sure that SVR1 had catman and roff was an extra and somewhat >> pricey software package. >> > > The SVR1 (and 2) systems I had access to were all CTIX, and it shipped > with nro

Re: Removal of catman from base

2017-09-12 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On Tue, 12 Sep 2017, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I'm pretty sure that SVR1 had catman and roff was an extra and somewhat pricey software package. The SVR1 (and 2) systems I had access to were all CTIX, and it shipped with nroff/troff. And the 3B4000 & 3B2s I used later (SVR2 and later) also ha

Re: Removal of catman from base

2017-09-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Lyndon Nerenberg writes: >> That was actually not why catman was brought into the world: ATT/USL >> thought text-processing was The Goods so they unbundled it base SVR >> and invented catman to make up for the missing nroff. > >Not quite. They (AT&T) sold the rights to sell

Re: Removal of catman from base

2017-09-12 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
That was actually not why catman was brought into the world: ATT/USL thought text-processing was The Goods so they unbundled it base SVR and invented catman to make up for the missing nroff. Not quite. They (AT&T) sold the rights to sell typeset manuals to some publishing house (I forget whic

Re: Removal of catman from base

2017-09-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <20170912184200.gd99...@gmail.com>, Gordon Tetlow writes: >With modern hardware, it doesn't seem to be necessary to have pre-formatted >man pages as rendering them is short enough to not be noticeable. That was actually not why catman was brought into the world: ATT/USL thoug

Re: Removal of catman from base

2017-09-12 Thread Gordon Tetlow
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 06:50:22PM +, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > In message <20170912184200.gd99...@gmail.com>, Gordon Tetlow writes: > > >With modern hardware, it doesn't seem to be necessary to have pre-formatted > >man pages as rendering them is short enough to not be noticeable.

Re: Removal of catman from base

2017-09-12 Thread Gordon Tetlow
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:42:00AM -0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote: > All, > > I wanted to announce my intention to remove the catman utility. > > For those that are unaware, this utility (disabled by default) is > generally run out of a periodic job and causes the system to cache > pre-formatted man