Re: Installer, before exit: /bin/tcsh for pkg (was: CFT: pkgbase support in 15.0)

2025-05-08 Thread Ed Maste
On Wed, 7 May 2025 at 23:32, Graham Perrin wrote: > > Re: > <https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase/2025-May/000516.html> > > <https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/1khf860/comment/mr6o8ke/> has > two screenshots that compare the 14.2-RELEASE exp

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-05-08 Thread Sulev-Madis Silber
On April 26, 2025 4:06:16 PM GMT+03:00, void wrote: >On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 03:01:01PM +0300, Sulev-Madis Silber wrote: >> >> that might be it!? there is hdd on machine that was tested but now never >> really likes to complete the long smart tests, and short take ages. there >> are no "usua

Re: RFC: Implementation of RFC 7217 [A Method for Generating Semantically Opaque Interface Identifiers, with IPv6 Stateless Address Autoconfiguration (SLAAC)]

2025-05-07 Thread Guido Falsi
On 4/9/25 13:19, Guido Falsi wrote: On 4/9/25 13:10, Guido Falsi wrote: On 4/9/25 12:51, Ronald Klop wrote: Hi, Next to hostuuid you could add a jailname in the mix. That is what ether_gen_addr(9) does to make it easier to prevent collisions while copying jails around or run a jail on a read

Re: RFC: Implementation of RFC 7217 [A Method for Generating Semantically Opaque Interface Identifiers, with IPv6 Stateless Address Autoconfiguration (SLAAC)]

2025-05-07 Thread Guido Falsi
Hello! I have polished the patch and it did get further testing. I've been asked to get one more approval from someone more knowledgeable about the IPv6 stack before being able to commit this code. It works fine and I'd like to commit it soon so it can get proper testing and avoid rotting as

Re: incremental bulds from scratch with beinstall.sh

2025-05-06 Thread Simon J. Gerraty
Mark Millard wrote: > > I think you could use something like this, which should be safe to > > commit: > > I do not have a commit bit. Should I submit a bugzilla > entry or something for its eventual commit? That's ok. Confirm it works for you and I'll see if I can break anything with it > >

Re: incremental bulds from scratch with beinstall.sh

2025-05-06 Thread Mark Millard
On May 6, 2025, at 16:07, Simon J. Gerraty wrote: > Mark Millard wrote: >> Yes, if the value of MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX isn't consistent that's going to >> cause problems (I'd call it a bug). If so don't use MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX >> directly, set some other variable and export that. >> Hmm src.sys.obj.mk pl

Re: incremental bulds from scratch with beinstall.sh

2025-05-06 Thread Simon J. Gerraty
Mark Millard wrote: > Yes, if the value of MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX isn't consistent that's going to > cause problems (I'd call it a bug). If so don't use MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX > directly, set some other variable and export that. > Hmm src.sys.obj.mk plays games with MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX so that's > probably not a

Re: incremental bulds from scratch with beinstall.sh

2025-05-06 Thread Mark Millard
On May 6, 2025, at 13:14, Simon J. Gerraty wrote: > Mark Millard wrote: >>> Of course trying to get too clever can end up being counter productive, >>> but the tools are there... >> >> I still have the addition that we found was needed >> in my experiments years ago (white space details >> belo

Re: RFC: Solaris style extended attributes for FreeBSD

2025-05-06 Thread Rick Macklem
On Sun, May 4, 2025 at 3:28 PM Lexi Winter wrote: > > Rick Macklem: > > I have coded this, but having a pathconf name for something that is > > specific to a file is a bit weird. kib@ has suggested that it might be > > better to do it as an ioctl(). > > > > So, do you think a pathconf variable is

Re: incremental bulds from scratch with beinstall.sh

2025-05-06 Thread Simon J. Gerraty
Mark Millard wrote: > > Of course trying to get too clever can end up being counter productive, > > but the tools are there... > > I still have the addition that we found was needed > in my experiments years ago (white space details > below may not have been preserved): IIRC there are a few prob

Re: incremental bulds from scratch with beinstall.sh

2025-05-06 Thread Nuno Teixeira
Same context of WITH_META_MODE, it will speed up for sure my builds, tunning what parts/targets of llvm will be built: > WITH_LLVM_TARGET_AARCH64= > WITH_LLVM_TARGET_ARM= > WITHOUT_LLVM_TARGET_MIPS= > WITHOUT_LLVM_TARGET_POWERPC= > WITHOUT_LLVM_TARGET_RISCV= > WITHOUT_LLVM_TARGET_X86= > I will u

Re: incremental bulds from scratch with beinstall.sh

2025-05-06 Thread Mark Millard
On May 6, 2025, at 11:09, Simon J. Gerraty wrote: > Mark Millard wrote: # cd /usr/src # make buildworld-jobs buildkernel-jobs >> >> The above used older commands and files from before >> the following install. META_MODE recorded the use of >> those commands. > > I'm sure you are awar

Re: incremental bulds from scratch with beinstall.sh

2025-05-06 Thread Mark Millard
On May 6, 2025, at 10:47, Nuno Teixeira wrote: > I use CURRENT on my laptop and rpi4 for some time now. > I like to see changes in src tree and then rebuild world and test for myself. > One of the things that attracts me is building and rebuilding stuff and maybe > that's why I'm so happy as a p

Re: How to build with cross gcc?

2025-05-06 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Tue, May 06, 2025 at 12:49:32AM +, Ahmad Khalifa wrote: > On Wed Apr 30, 2025 at 8:58 AM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > exa% pwd > > /usr/local/x86_64-unknown-freebsd13.5/bin > > exa% ls -l cc1 cc1plus liblto_plugin.so > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 60 Apr 30 08:49 cc1 -> > > /usr/loca

Re: incremental bulds from scratch with beinstall.sh

2025-05-06 Thread Simon J. Gerraty
Mark Millard wrote: > > > # cd /usr/src > > > # make buildworld-jobs buildkernel-jobs > > The above used older commands and files from before > the following install. META_MODE recorded the use of > those commands. I'm sure you are aware, but maybe not everyone is, that bmake contains a number o

Re: incremental bulds from scratch with beinstall.sh

2025-05-06 Thread Nuno Teixeira
Hello! I use CURRENT on my laptop and rpi4 for some time now. I like to see changes in src tree and then rebuild world and test for myself. One of the things that attracts me is building and rebuilding stuff and maybe that's why I'm so happy as a ports committer :) The only "change" that I do in

Re: incremental bulds from scratch with beinstall.sh

2025-05-06 Thread Mark Millard
On May 6, 2025, at 08:15, Nuno Teixeira wrote: > Hello Mark, > > Definitely I'm not getting the results I want with WITH_META_MODE using BEs > since most of the times I end up rebuilding almost everything in new BE. > > Should I stop using WITH_META_MODES a go straight to clean builds (clean

Re: incremental bulds from scratch with beinstall.sh

2025-05-06 Thread Nuno Teixeira
Hello Mark, Definitely I'm not getting the results I want with WITH_META_MODE using BEs since most of the times I end up rebuilding almost everything in new BE. Should I stop using WITH_META_MODES a go straight to clean builds (clean /usr/obj) instead? My first concern is to speed up builds expec

Re: Recent changes to pkg argument parsing (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D49977)

2025-05-06 Thread Ronald Klop
Van: Matthew Seaman Datum: dinsdag, 6 mei 2025 11:04 Aan: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Onderwerp: Re: Recent changes to pkg argument parsing (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D49977) On 06/05/2025 09:18, Dan Mahoney (Ports) wrote: > For example, we've got a cron job on every box that gat

Re: Recent changes to pkg argument parsing (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D49977)

2025-05-06 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 06/05/2025 09:18, Dan Mahoney (Ports) wrote: For example, we've got a cron job on every box that gathers all our leaf packages into a file: #!/bin/sh /usr/sbin/pkg query -e '%#r == 0' '%n-%v' We now get warnings: # /usr/local/libexec/pkgleaf pkg: invalid option -- e (but the query still r

Re: Recent changes to pkg argument parsing (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D49977)

2025-05-06 Thread Ronald Klop
This pkg argument issue is fixed yesterday. https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=73ba568b1c35aabc1682540b5b4d5d77220c5468 Regards, Ronald. Van: "Dan Mahoney (Ports)" Datum: dinsdag, 6 mei 2025 10:18 Aan: "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" Onderwerp: Recent changes to pkg argument parsing (ht

Re: How to build with cross gcc?

2025-05-05 Thread Ahmad Khalifa
On Wed Apr 30, 2025 at 8:58 AM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > exa% pwd > /usr/local/x86_64-unknown-freebsd13.5/bin > exa% ls -l cc1 cc1plus liblto_plugin.so > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 60 Apr 30 08:49 cc1 -> > /usr/local/libexec/gcc/x86_64-unknown-freebsd13.5/14.1.0/cc1 > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wh

Re: incremental bulds from scratch with beinstall.sh

2025-05-05 Thread Nuno Teixeira
(...) This way i did have less compiling expecially on buildworld. My rpi4 is recompiling allmost everything in buildworld phase using beinstall.sh. I will use this mehod from now on. Thanks very much for your great explanation! Cheers, Nuno Teixeira escreveu (segunda, 5/05/2025 à(s) 23:36):

Re: incremental bulds from scratch with beinstall.sh

2025-05-05 Thread Nuno Teixeira
Hello Mark, Minutes ago I used a more tradicional way: # make buildworld-jobs buildkernel-jobs ``` RELEASE=Whatever > bectl create ${RELEASE} > bectl mount ${RELEASE} BASEDIR=/tmp/be_mount. # Use mount point returned by bectl mount > make DESTDIR=${BASEDIR} installkernel > etcupdate -p -D $

Re: incremental bulds from scratch with beinstall.sh

2025-05-05 Thread Mark Millard
Nuno Teixeira wrote on Date: Mon, 05 May 2025 20:37:09 UTC : > (...) > > Don't forget to `env NO_PKG_UPGRADE=yes beinstall.sh` to not mess with > ports and stuff. > > Nuno Teixeira escreveu (segunda, 5/05/2025 à(s) > 21:34): > > > Hello, > > > > Using incremental WITH_META_MODE builds, after

Re: incremental bulds from scratch with beinstall.sh

2025-05-05 Thread Nuno Teixeira
(...) Don't forget to `env NO_PKG_UPGRADE=yes beinstall.sh` to not mess with ports and stuff. Nuno Teixeira escreveu (segunda, 5/05/2025 à(s) 21:34): > Hello, > > Using incremental WITH_META_MODE builds, after installation with > beinstall.sh, building same src, a complete compilation happens.

Re: pkg: invalid option --, and pkg: illegal option --

2025-05-05 Thread Ed Maste
On Sun, 4 May 2025 at 02:13, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > It is definitely be61deae0aa2 and it is cosmetic. be61deae0aa2 changes the > parser in the base system. It results in all options generating the error, > but they are passed to the sub-program (info, version, delete, etc), so they > are jus

Re: RFC: Solaris style extended attributes for FreeBSD

2025-05-04 Thread Lexi Winter
Rick Macklem: > I have coded this, but having a pathconf name for something that is > specific to a file is a bit weird. kib@ has suggested that it might be > better to do it as an ioctl(). > > So, do you think a pathconf variable is preferred, since it is > "Solaris compatible" or an ioctl()? io

Re: pkg: invalid option --, and pkg: illegal option --

2025-05-04 Thread Yusuf Yaman
I can confirm that reverting commit be61deae0aa2 fixes the PKG. Sent from Proton Mail Android Original Message On 5/4/25 7:28 PM, Yusuf Yaman wrote: > Thanks for reporting that, I just noticed that problem too. Hope it gets > fixed soon. > > Sent from Proton Mail Android

Re: pkg: invalid option --, and pkg: illegal option --

2025-05-04 Thread Yusuf Yaman
Thanks for reporting that, I just noticed that problem too. Hope it gets fixed soon. Sent from Proton Mail Android Original Message On 5/2/25 9:33 AM, Graham Perrin wrote: > root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # pkg version -C -vRL= | grep -v orphaned > pkg: invalid option -

Re: RFC: Solaris style extended attributes for FreeBSD

2025-05-04 Thread Rick Macklem
On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 3:08 AM Lionel Cons wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 at 17:14, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 3:34 AM Cedric Blancher > > wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 at 00:02, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > > > > > > First off, I cross posted because I don't thin

Re: pkg: invalid option --, and pkg: illegal option --

2025-05-03 Thread Kevin Oberman
>pkg: invalid option -- v > > > >pkg: invalid option -- R > > > >pkg: invalid option -- L > > > >pkg: invalid option -- =3D > > > > > > how odd. > > > > > > I'd try re-making pkg from an updated ports tree. > > >

Re: pkg: invalid option --, and pkg: illegal option --

2025-05-03 Thread Cy Schubert
00, Graham Perrin wrote: > > >root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # pkg version -C -vRL=3D | grep -v > > orphaned > > >pkg: invalid option -- C > > >pkg: invalid option -- v > > >pkg: invalid option -- R > > >pkg: invalid option -- L > > >pkg: i

Re: pkg: invalid option --, and pkg: illegal option --

2025-05-03 Thread Kevin Oberman
on -- R > >pkg: invalid option -- L > >pkg: invalid option -- = > > how odd. > > I'd try re-making pkg from an updated ports tree. > My context builds everything from source. It doesn't use pkg base. > > % pkg version -C -vRL= | grep -v orphaned >

Re: pkg: invalid option --, and pkg: illegal option --

2025-05-03 Thread void
On Fri, May 02, 2025 at 07:32:34AM +0100, Graham Perrin wrote: root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # pkg version -C -vRL= | grep -v orphaned pkg: invalid option -- C pkg: invalid option -- v pkg: invalid option -- R pkg: invalid option -- L pkg: invalid option -- = how odd. I'd try re-m

Re: pkg: invalid option --, and pkg: illegal option --

2025-05-02 Thread Graham Perrin
Also (with /usr/sbin/pkg in CURRENT), fish completions are sometimes broken. The most recent example: grahamperrin@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd ~> pkg iinfo Fpkg: invalid option -- l pkg: invalid option -- q rames/    reeBSD

Re: How to build with cross gcc?

2025-05-02 Thread Olivier Certner
> What is the right way to build with gcc? Here is one data point. > exa% MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/tmp/obj/ make -j 16 -s buildworld > __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null SRCCONF=/dev/null TARGET=amd64 TARGET_ARCH=amd64 > CROSS_TOOLCHAIN=amd64-gcc14 With a not-that-recent stable/14 (based on 6f34788b4e24ecbd602 f

Re: pkg: invalid option --, and pkg: illegal option --

2025-05-02 Thread Florian Smeets
On 02.05.25 08:32, Graham Perrin wrote: root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # pkg version -C -vRL= | grep -v orphaned pkg: invalid option -- C pkg: invalid option -- v pkg: invalid option -- R pkg: invalid option -- L pkg: invalid option -- = Updating FreeBSD-ports repository catalogue... FreeBSD-p

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-29 Thread Shawn Webb
On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 08:44:50PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: > On 29 Apr 2025, at 19:43, Shawn Webb wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 07:42:44PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: > >> On 27 Apr 2025, at 17:04, Shawn Webb wrote: > >>> > >>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 06:06:54PM +0200, Dimitry An

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-29 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 29 Apr 2025, at 19:43, Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 07:42:44PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: >> On 27 Apr 2025, at 17:04, Shawn Webb wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 06:06:54PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: >> ... Please let me know if you encounter any problems res

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-29 Thread Shawn Webb
On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 07:42:44PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: > On 27 Apr 2025, at 17:04, Shawn Webb wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 06:06:54PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: > ... > >> Please let me know if you encounter any problems resulting due to this > >> change, as I intend to MFC i

Re: April 2025 stabilization week

2025-04-27 Thread Dave Cottlehuber
On Sun, 27 Apr 2025, at 19:50, Vladimir Kondratyev wrote: > On 4/27/25 19:57, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > I see 3 possible reasons: > > 1. Pre-daa098cc37b9 system running during March stabweek. > 2. Different touchpad hardware. > 3. Something else. E.g. a luck. > > -- > WBR > Vladimir Kondratyev This

Re: April 2025 stabilization week

2025-04-27 Thread Vladimir Kondratyev
On 4/27/25 19:57, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 03:38:46PM +, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: D> On Sat, 26 Apr 2025, at 16:19, Vladimir Kondratyev wrote: D> > On 4/24/25 21:46, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: D> >> On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 05:48:46PM +, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: D> >> D> On Thu

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-27 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 27 Apr 2025, at 17:04, Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 06:06:54PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: ... >> Please let me know if you encounter any problems resulting due to this >> change, as I intend to MFC it. For example, I tried covering all >> incremental build scenarios, but I m

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-27 Thread Yusuf Yaman
I updated my source tree and did a whole world build then did the buildworld again without changing anything that would affect something to get rebuild and then the world has been built now in 192 seconds. Indeed, it seems pico files can be cached too. Sorry for the noise and thank you all! Hav

Re: April 2025 stabilization week

2025-04-27 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 03:38:46PM +, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: D> On Sat, 26 Apr 2025, at 16:19, Vladimir Kondratyev wrote: D> > On 4/24/25 21:46, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: D> >> On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 05:48:46PM +, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: D> >> D> On Thu, 24 Apr 2025, at 17:31, Gleb Smirnoff wr

Re: April 2025 stabilization week

2025-04-27 Thread Dave Cottlehuber
On Sat, 26 Apr 2025, at 16:19, Vladimir Kondratyev wrote: > On 4/24/25 21:46, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 05:48:46PM +, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: >> D> On Thu, 24 Apr 2025, at 17:31, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: >> D> > D> This issue actually came up last month but I had no time to >>

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-27 Thread Shawn Webb
On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 06:06:54PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: > Hi, > > In https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=2e47f35be5dc I committed a > change to convert libllvm, libclang, and liblldb into private shared > libraries. This means that tools like clang, lld, lldb, and more are now > quite

Re: RTLD_DEEPBIND question

2025-04-27 Thread Mark Johnston
On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 08:56:44AM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > On 23/04/2025 21:56, Andriy Gapon wrote: > > BTW, I've been wondering how illumos avoids the problem even though they > > do not use any special dlopen flags. > > It turns out that they link almost all system shared libraries with > >

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-27 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 27 Apr 2025, at 01:28, Yusuf Yaman wrote: > > I am a new user of 15.0-CURRENT and just updated my source tree and > noticed that there are now files to be built that have the ".pico" > extension, as a ccache user, i was enjoying fast world/kernel builds but > these files doesn't seem to get

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-26 Thread Gleb Popov
On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 2:28 AM Yusuf Yaman wrote: > > Hi, > > I am a new user of 15.0-CURRENT and just updated my source tree and > noticed that there are now files to be built that have the ".pico" > extension, as a ccache user, i was enjoying fast world/kernel builds but > these files doesn't s

Re: HEADS UP: libllvm, libclang, and liblldb converted into shared libraries

2025-04-26 Thread Yusuf Yaman
Hi, I am a new user of 15.0-CURRENT and just updated my source tree and noticed that there are now files to be built that have the ".pico" extension, as a ccache user, i was enjoying fast world/kernel builds but these files doesn't seem to get cached to me and my world builds are taking long t

Re: April 2025 stabilization week

2025-04-26 Thread Vladimir Kondratyev
On 4/24/25 21:46, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 05:48:46PM +, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: D> On Thu, 24 Apr 2025, at 17:31, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: D> > D> This issue actually came up last month but I had no time to D> > investigate D> > D> then, details D> > https://bugs.freebsd.org/

Re: RFC: Solaris style extended attributes for FreeBSD

2025-04-26 Thread Rick Macklem
On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 3:34 AM Cedric Blancher wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 at 00:02, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > > First off, I cross posted because I don't think many read freebsd-arch@. > > There seems to be a nice market for Solaris style extended attributes. > > Since ZFS is already wired fo

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-04-26 Thread void
On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 03:01:01PM +0300, Sulev-Madis Silber wrote: that might be it!? there is hdd on machine that was tested but now never really likes to complete the long smart tests, and short take ages. there are no "usual" disk errors, tho. that hdd is part of 2 disk mirror that the gi

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-04-26 Thread Sulev-Madis Silber
On April 23, 2025 6:40:44 PM GMT+03:00, void wrote: >On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 04:25:16AM +0300, Sulev-Madis Silber wrote: >> i have long running issue in my 13.4 box (amd64) >> >> others don't get it at all and only suggest adding more than 4g ram >> >> it manifests as some mmap or other probl

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-04-25 Thread Mark Millard
On Apr 22, 2025, at 21:29, Mark Millard wrote: > On Apr 22, 2025, at 20:27, Mark Millard wrote: > >> Sulev-Madis Silber wrote >> on >> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 02:04:28 UTC : >> >>> yes, 2 * 8g partitions on separate disks, so i have 16g swap >>> >>> . . . >>> >> Van: Sulev-Madis Silber

Re: April 2025 stabilization week

2025-04-24 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 01:00:13AM -0700, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: T> This is an automated email to inform you that the April 2025 stabilization week T> started with FreeBSD/main at main-n276625-d4763484f911, which was tagged as T> main-stabweek-2025-Apr. The A/B testing at Netflix didn't find any st

Re: April 2025 stabilization week

2025-04-24 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 05:48:46PM +, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: D> On Thu, 24 Apr 2025, at 17:31, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: D> > D> This issue actually came up last month but I had no time to D> > investigate D> > D> then, details D> > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=286045 D> > D>

Re: April 2025 stabilization week

2025-04-24 Thread Dave Cottlehuber
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025, at 17:31, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > D> This issue actually came up last month but I had no time to > investigate > D> then, details > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=286045 > > Is this regression since last stabweek or from an earlier point? Hi Gleb Just sinc

Re: April 2025 stabilization week

2025-04-24 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 02:04:39PM +, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: D> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025, at 14:22, Warner Losh wrote: D> > Please note: Gleb is on vacation this week, so I'll be coordinating D> > stab-week this time. Please be sure to cc me on any problems you D> > encounter. D> > D> > Warner D> >

Re: April 2025 stabilization week

2025-04-24 Thread Dave Cottlehuber
On Mon, 21 Apr 2025, at 14:22, Warner Losh wrote: > Please note: Gleb is on vacation this week, so I'll be coordinating > stab-week this time. Please be sure to cc me on any problems you > encounter. > > Warner > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 2:00 AM Gleb Smirnoff wrote: >> >> Hi FreeBSD/main users

Re: April 2025 stabilization week

2025-04-24 Thread Dave Cottlehuber
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025, at 14:04, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > On Mon, 21 Apr 2025, at 14:22, Warner Losh wrote: >> Please note: Gleb is on vacation this week, so I'll be coordinating >> stab-week this time. Please be sure to cc me on any problems you >> encounter. > from https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzil

Re: RTLD_DEEPBIND question

2025-04-23 Thread Andriy Gapon
On 23/04/2025 21:56, Andriy Gapon wrote: BTW, I've been wondering how illumos avoids the problem even though they do not use any special dlopen flags. It turns out that they link almost all system shared libraries with -Bdirect option (which is Solaris/illumos specific). It's somewhat similar t

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-04-23 Thread Mark Millard
Sulev-Madis Silber wrote on Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 06:55:06 UTC : > > On April 23, 2025 8:34:36 AM GMT+03:00, Mark Millard > wrote: > >On Apr 22, 2025, at 21:59, Mark Millard wrote: > > > >> Sulev-Madis Silber > >> wrote on > >> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 04:31:41 UTC : > >> > >> . . . > . . .

Re: RTLD_DEEPBIND question

2025-04-23 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 09:09:56PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > On 19/04/2025 13:29, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 01:25:28PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > > > On 19/04/2025 12:39, Andriy Gapon wrote: > > > > From a quick look at the code, should we try to resolve the symb

Re: RTLD_DEEPBIND question

2025-04-23 Thread Andriy Gapon
On 19/04/2025 13:38, Konstantin Belousov wrote: And there is the version with the recursive marking by deepbind: I think that this patch would help with my case (haven't tested yet). But I am not sure if it would be "correct". First, as you have rightfully asked, it's not clear that deepbind s

Re: RTLD_DEEPBIND question

2025-04-23 Thread Andriy Gapon
On 19/04/2025 13:29, Konstantin Belousov wrote: On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 01:25:28PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: On 19/04/2025 12:39, Andriy Gapon wrote: From a quick look at the code, should we try to resolve the symbol in refobj itself when it's marked with deepbind? Oh, and it looks like obj

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-04-23 Thread void
On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 04:25:16AM +0300, Sulev-Madis Silber wrote: i have long running issue in my 13.4 box (amd64) others don't get it at all and only suggest adding more than 4g ram it manifests as some mmap or other problems i don't really get basically unrestricted git consumes all the me

Re: April 2025 stabilization week

2025-04-23 Thread Maxim V Filimonov
Hello Warner, I've encountered the following issue: drm-kmod refuses to build, complains about vm_page_next() not being defined. Also, when I tried installing drm-kmod or drm-66-kmod packages, the kmods didn't want to work, complained about some symbols not being there. There does exist a f

Re: RFC: Solaris style extended attributes for FreeBSD

2025-04-23 Thread Rick Macklem
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 3:10 AM Cedric Blancher wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 at 13:10, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 3:34 AM Cedric Blancher > > wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 at 00:02, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > > > > > > First off, I cross posted because I don't

Re: etcupdate failed to build tree with read-only /usr/src

2025-04-23 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Alastair Hogge writes: > Dag-Erling Smørgrav writes: > > Alastair Hogge writes: > > > ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libmd.so.6" not found, required by "mtree" > > > *** Error code 1 > > This is _after_ installworld, right? `etcupdate -p`, then installworld, > > then `etcupdate -B`? > Correct, and

Re: etcupdate failed to build tree with read-only /usr/src

2025-04-23 Thread Alastair Hogge
On 2025-04-18 14:24, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Alastair Hogge writes: >> Hmm I did try $(etcupdate -B), and I recall it also failing, so I >> updated another host, and used -B with etcupdate, and it failed for >> another reason: >> [...] >> ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libmd.so.6" not found, req

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-04-23 Thread Sulev-Madis Silber
On April 23, 2025 8:34:36 AM GMT+03:00, Mark Millard wrote: >On Apr 22, 2025, at 21:59, Mark Millard wrote: > >> Sulev-Madis Silber wrote >> on >> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 04:31:41 UTC : >> >> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/server-freezes-when-using-git-to-update-ports-tree.88651/ >> >>

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-04-22 Thread Mark Millard
On Apr 22, 2025, at 21:59, Mark Millard wrote: > Sulev-Madis Silber wrote > on > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 04:31:41 UTC : > > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/server-freezes-when-using-git-to-update-ports-tree.88651/ > > That, in turn mentions: > > the remote console shows an unresponsive, fr

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-04-22 Thread Mark Millard
Sulev-Madis Silber wrote on Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 04:31:41 UTC : https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/server-freezes-when-using-git-to-update-ports-tree.88651/ That, in turn mentions: the remote console shows an unresponsive, frozen OS, unable to interact with. If FreeBSD 13.4 can still swappi

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-04-22 Thread Sulev-Madis Silber
On April 23, 2025 6:27:20 AM GMT+03:00, Mark Millard wrote: >Sulev-Madis Silber wrote on >Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 02:04:28 UTC : > >> yes, 2 * 8g partitions on separate disks, so i have 16g swap >> >> . . . >> >> >> >Van: Sulev-Madis Silber >> >> >Datum: maandag, 21 april 2025 03:25 >> >> >.

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-04-22 Thread Mark Millard
On Apr 22, 2025, at 20:27, Mark Millard wrote: > Sulev-Madis Silber wrote > on > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 02:04:28 UTC : > >> yes, 2 * 8g partitions on separate disks, so i have 16g swap >> >> . . . >> > Van: Sulev-Madis Silber > Datum: maandag, 21 april 2025 03:25 > . . . >>

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-04-22 Thread Mark Millard
Sulev-Madis Silber wrote on Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 02:04:28 UTC : > yes, 2 * 8g partitions on separate disks, so i have 16g swap > > . . . > > >> >Van: Sulev-Madis Silber > >> >Datum: maandag, 21 april 2025 03:25 > >> >. . . > >> >> > >> >> others don't get it at all and only suggest adding mo

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-04-22 Thread Sulev-Madis Silber
On April 22, 2025 8:34:35 PM GMT+03:00, Toomas Soome wrote: > > >> On 22. Apr 2025, at 18:23, Sulev-Madis Silber >> wrote: >> >> well i don't have those errors anymore so there's nothing to give >> >> i've tried to tune arc but it didn't do anything so i took those things off >> again >>

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-04-22 Thread Sulev-Madis Silber
yes, 2 * 8g partitions on separate disks, so i have 16g swap but issues i see aren't "usual" memory problems. even building rust works, just takes 10g swap and entire day. nothing will fail. nothing will lag but what i see are kernel taking too much. as far as i understand. i can't figure out w

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-04-22 Thread Toomas Soome
> On 22. Apr 2025, at 18:23, Sulev-Madis Silber > wrote: > > well i don't have those errors anymore so there's nothing to give > > i've tried to tune arc but it didn't do anything so i took those things off > again > > right now i'm looking at > > ARC: 1487M Total, 1102M MFU, 128M MRU, 15

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-04-22 Thread Rick Macklem
I wouldn't normally top post, but all I have is a generic question. Do you have a swap partition setup? (I'd use something like 6-8Gbytes for a 4Gbyte system.) rick On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 8:23 AM Sulev-Madis Silber wrote: > > well i don't have those errors anymore so there's nothing to give >

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-04-22 Thread Sulev-Madis Silber
well i don't have those errors anymore so there's nothing to give i've tried to tune arc but it didn't do anything so i took those things off again right now i'm looking at ARC: 1487M Total, 1102M MFU, 128M MRU, 1544K Anon, 56M Header, 199M Other 942M Compressed, 18G Uncompressed, 19.36:1

Re: zfs (?) issues?

2025-04-22 Thread Ronald Klop
Hi, First, instead of writing "it gives vague errors", it really helps others on this list if you can copy-paste the errors into your email. Second, as far as I can see FreeBSD 13.4 uses OpenZFS 2.1.14. FreeBSD 14 uses OpenZFS 2.2.X which has bugfixes and improved tuning, although I cannot cla

Re: RFC: Solaris style extended attributes for FreeBSD

2025-04-22 Thread Rick Macklem
On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 3:34 AM Cedric Blancher wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 at 00:02, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > > First off, I cross posted because I don't think many read freebsd-arch@. > > There seems to be a nice market for Solaris style extended attributes. > > Since ZFS is already wired fo

Re: New kernel doesn?t recognize ufs gpt root filesystem

2025-04-21 Thread Chris
On 2025-04-21 11:46, Chris wrote: On 2025-04-21 10:47, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Chris writes: Can I safely move my new kernel to say, kernel.new while running my current kernel as kernel and rebuild the new kernel with the kernconf corrections? If you're booted into kernel.old you can jus

Re: LK_RETRY set in cn_lkflags for VOP_LOOKUP?

2025-04-21 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 03:37:55PM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote: > Hi, > > I just spotted something in the NFS server that seems like > it is a bug, but I thought I'd check. > (Note that I have never seen this cause a problem, but I > think it might if a server file system is being forced > dismounte

Re: New kernel doesn?t recognize ufs gpt root filesystem

2025-04-21 Thread Chris
On 2025-04-21 10:47, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Chris writes: Can I safely move my new kernel to say, kernel.new while running my current kernel as kernel and rebuild the new kernel with the kernconf corrections? If you're booted into kernel.old you can just build a new kernel and run `make r

Re: New kernel doesn?t recognize ufs gpt root filesystem

2025-04-21 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Chris writes: > Can I safely move my new kernel to say, kernel.new while running my current > kernel as kernel and rebuild the new kernel with the kernconf corrections? If you're booted into kernel.old you can just build a new kernel and run `make reinstallkernel` to replace the new (non-working)

Re: April 2025 stabilization week

2025-04-21 Thread Warner Losh
Please note: Gleb is on vacation this week, so I'll be coordinating stab-week this time. Please be sure to cc me on any problems you encounter. Warner On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 2:00 AM Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > > Hi FreeBSD/main users & developers: > > This is an automated email to inform you that

Re: New kernel doesn?t recognize ufs gpt root filesystem

2025-04-21 Thread Chris
On 2025-04-21 09:29, Warner Losh wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 10:03 AM Chris wrote: On 2025-04-21 00:23, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 12:19:45 -0700 > Chris wrote: > >> On 2025-04-20 01:15, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: >> > Chris writes: >> >> Warner Losh writes: >> >> > Mayb

Re: New kernel doesn?t recognize ufs gpt root filesystem

2025-04-21 Thread Chris
On 2025-04-21 06:42, Warner Losh wrote: Put 'da' back in. I'm pretty sure it's not optional. Well, maybe it is optional, but you'll need nda if you do that and the kernel config doesn't have that. While you have nvd, the default is to prefer nda to nvd, even when nda isn't in the kernel (so more

Re: New kernel doesn?t recognize ufs gpt root filesystem

2025-04-21 Thread Warner Losh
On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 10:03 AM Chris wrote: > > On 2025-04-21 00:23, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 12:19:45 -0700 > > Chris wrote: > > > >> On 2025-04-20 01:15, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > >> > Chris writes: > >> >> Warner Losh writes: > >> >> > Maybe this is a custom kernel

Re: New kernel doesn?t recognize ufs gpt root filesystem

2025-04-21 Thread Chris
On 2025-04-21 00:23, Gary Jennejohn wrote: On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 12:19:45 -0700 Chris wrote: On 2025-04-20 01:15, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Chris writes: >> Warner Losh writes: >> > Maybe this is a custom kernel without the label code. >> It's an upgrade. It's 15 from ~11 mos ago. Yes a cus

Re: New kernel doesn?t recognize ufs gpt root filesystem

2025-04-21 Thread Warner Losh
Put 'da' back in. I'm pretty sure it's not optional. Well, maybe it is optional, but you'll need nda if you do that and the kernel config doesn't have that. While you have nvd, the default is to prefer nda to nvd, even when nda isn't in the kernel (so more like an either or choice than a bidding ch

Re: New kernel doesn?t recognize ufs gpt root filesystem

2025-04-21 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 12:19:45 -0700 Chris wrote: > On 2025-04-20 01:15, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > > Chris writes: > >> Warner Losh writes: > >> > Maybe this is a custom kernel without the label code. > >> It's an upgrade. It's 15 from ~11 mos ago. Yes a custom kernel. But > >> I'm using

Re: New kernel doesn’t recognize ufs gpt root filesystem

2025-04-20 Thread Chris
On 2025-04-20 01:15, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Chris writes: Warner Losh writes: > Maybe this is a custom kernel without the label code. It's an upgrade. It's 15 from ~11 mos ago. Yes a custom kernel. But I'm using the same kernconf as before. Was label removed from generic in the last 11 mos

Re: New kernel doesn’t recognize ufs gpt root filesystem

2025-04-20 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Chris writes: > Warner Losh writes: > > Maybe this is a custom kernel without the label code. > It's an upgrade. It's 15 from ~11 mos ago. Yes a custom kernel. But > I'm using the same kernconf as before. Was label removed from generic > in the last 11 mos.? Please share: - The output of the `w

Re: graphics/drm-61-kmod build failure for main-n276560-83dcc133c876

2025-04-20 Thread Rainer Hurling
Am 19.04.25 um 16:02 schrieb Mark Johnston: On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 06:06:59AM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: Running: FreeBSD g1-118.catwhisker.org 15.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT #445 main-n276537-7121e9414f29: Fri Apr 18 12:36:30 UTC 2025 r...@g1-120.catwhisker.org:/common/S4/obj/usr/s

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