Re: Defaults in 10.0 ZFS through bsdinstall

2013-11-15 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013, at 3:23, Stefan Esser wrote: >> Am 14.11.2013 22:02, schrieb Teske, Devin: >> > On Nov 14, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Mark Felder wrote: >> >> We don't even do installs on UFS with atime disabled by default in fstab >> >> so w

Re: Defaults in 10.0 ZFS through bsdinstall

2013-11-15 Thread Mark Felder
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013, at 3:23, Stefan Esser wrote: > Am 14.11.2013 22:02, schrieb Teske, Devin: > > On Nov 14, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > >> We don't even do installs on UFS with atime disabled by default in fstab > >> so why should we so suddenly change course for ZFS? > >> > > > >

Re: Defaults in 10.0 ZFS through bsdinstall

2013-11-15 Thread Stefan Esser
Am 14.11.2013 22:02, schrieb Teske, Devin: > On Nov 14, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Mark Felder wrote: >> We don't even do installs on UFS with atime disabled by default in fstab >> so why should we so suddenly change course for ZFS? >> > > You've made a good point. There is major difference between UFS a

Re: Defaults in 10.0 ZFS through bsdinstall

2013-11-15 Thread Stefan Esser
Am 15.11.2013 01:00, schrieb Mark Felder: > On Nov 14, 2013, at 15:04, Teske, Devin wrote: >> Sounds like a vote for enabling it where-needed by-default (e.g., /var as a >> whole >> or more selectively, /var/mail) > > I'd be OK with FreeBSD taking a stance and moving to noatime by default but >

Re: Defaults in 10.0 ZFS through bsdinstall

2013-11-14 Thread Teske, Devin
On Nov 14, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Marcus Reid wrote: > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 06:35:43PM +, Teske, Devin wrote: >> On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Allan Jude wrote: >>> On 2013-11-14 9:34, Reid, Marcus wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I noticed a couple of things with the ZFS defaults that result from

Re: Defaults in 10.0 ZFS through bsdinstall

2013-11-14 Thread Teske, Devin
On Nov 14, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Marcus Reid wrote: > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 06:35:43PM +, Teske, Devin wrote: >> On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Allan Jude wrote: >>> On 2013-11-14 9:34, Reid, Marcus wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I noticed a couple of things with the ZFS defaults that result from

Re: Defaults in 10.0 ZFS through bsdinstall

2013-11-14 Thread Marcus Reid
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 06:35:43PM +, Teske, Devin wrote: > On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Allan Jude wrote: > > On 2013-11-14 9:34, Reid, Marcus wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I noticed a couple of things with the ZFS defaults that result from > > using the new installer in 10.0-BETA3. > > > > O