Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On 25 Feb, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2014-Feb-24 10:44:30 -0600, Bryan Drewery wrote: >> >>I have the Oreilly sendmail book here and it's thicker than The Design >>and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System. That's quite an >>application! > > More impressively, ISTR it's thicker than "The

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On 2014-Feb-24 10:44:30 -0600, Bryan Drewery wrote: > >I have the Oreilly sendmail book here and it's thicker than The Design >and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System. That's quite an >application! More impressively, ISTR it's thicker than "The Magic Garden Explained" - which is the SV

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 09:40:26AM -0600, Bryan Drewery wrote: > IMHO base should be the very minimalistic needs to get a server online, > and should be secure and simple by default. ... > Anything not meeting the bare-bones criteria can be installed with 'pkg > install' or ports. +1 (OTOH I am no

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > To Julio Merino: How long did NetBSD include both sendmail and postfix in > base? What NetBSD releases? What was the first release that included both > sendmail and postfix, and the first release where sendmail was dropped? > As far as I

Build failed in Jenkins: FreeBSD_HEAD #176

See Changes: [eadler] hier(7): Add /usr/lib/private Requested by: theraven MFC After: 3 days -- [...truncated 246402 lines...] --- rsu-rtl8712fw.fw --- uudecode -p

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On 2/24/14, 7:47 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: I never got far enough with DragonFlyBSD or OpenBSD on live USB to see osmpd or opensmtpd (OpenBSD or dma (DragonFly). I couldn't read hard drive from either OpenBSD or DragonFly, could read OpenBSD but not DragonFly live USB stick from FreeBSD and Ne

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On 2/24/14, 10:45 PM, Mark Felder wrote: On Mon, Feb 24, 2014, at 3:41, Joe Holden wrote: On 24/02/2014 04:26, Julio Merino wrote: On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: Hi, As some of you may have noticed, I have imorted a couple of days ago dma (DragonFly Mail Agent) in

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: What would really help is if the ports fetch-recursive-list target could extend to reliably include the distfiles for the runtime dependencies as well. But I'm not even sure that's possible. We tried a few different things, but in the end we had

Re: March 13: Jenkins and BHyve presentation

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > Hi, > > I will be giving a talk discussing what I have done > settings up Jenkins ( https://jenkins.freebsd.org ) > in the FreeBSD cluster, using BHyve VM's: > > The presentation will be on March 13 in Mountain View, California, U.S.A.: > >

[head tinderbox] failure on sparc64/sparc64

TB --- 2014-02-24 23:45:01 - tinderbox 2.20 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2014-02-24 23:45:01 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Mar 26 13:54:12 EDT 2012 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB --- 2014

[head tinderbox] failure on powerpc64/powerpc

TB --- 2014-02-24 23:32:29 - tinderbox 2.20 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2014-02-24 23:32:29 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Mar 26 13:54:12 EDT 2012 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB --- 2014

[head tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc

TB --- 2014-02-24 23:23:18 - tinderbox 2.20 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2014-02-24 23:23:18 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Mar 26 13:54:12 EDT 2012 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB --- 2014

[head tinderbox] failure on mips64/mips

TB --- 2014-02-24 23:19:00 - tinderbox 2.20 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2014-02-24 23:19:00 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Mar 26 13:54:12 EDT 2012 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB --- 2014

[head tinderbox] failure on mips/mips

TB --- 2014-02-24 22:55:50 - tinderbox 2.20 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2014-02-24 22:55:50 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Mar 26 13:54:12 EDT 2012 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB --- 2014

FreeBSD in GSoC 2014! (mentors wanted)

(cross-posted message; keep discussion on hackers@ only) Hello, So we're in GSOC 2014! Our logo is featured on the main website: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2014 Everybody can submit ideas through a web form: http://tinyurl.com/FreeBSD-GSOC2014 To he

[head tinderbox] failure on ia64/ia64

TB --- 2014-02-24 22:43:14 - tinderbox 2.20 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2014-02-24 22:43:14 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Mar 26 13:54:12 EDT 2012 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB --- 2014

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 07:01:54PM +0400, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 03:30:14PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 06:17:37PM +0400, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 10:11:56PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > > > As so

Re: libinit idea

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:00:57AM -0800, Don Lewis wrote: > I forgot to mention that the command line tools are feel cumbersome. To > restart a service: > FreeBSD: /etc/rc.d/foo restart service foo restart > Old Linux: /etc/init.d/foo restart service foo restart > Systemd

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014, at 12:46, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 2/23/2014 3:11 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > Hi, > > > > As some of you may have noticed, I have imorted a couple of days ago dma > > (DragonFly Mail Agent) in base. I have been asked to explain my motivation > > so > > here they are

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On 02/24/14 17:16, Lucius Rizzo wrote: > * Bryan Drewery [2014-02-24 09:40]: > >> Remembering the time I spent trying to configure sendmail to not accept >> inbound mail, and trying to get it to behave how I want, I fully support >> this. Of all the years I've messed with sendmail, I still have

Re: libinit idea

On 02/24/14 13:00, Don Lewis wrote: > On 24 Feb, Thomas Mueller wrote: >> from Don Lewis: >> >>> I've got a Fedora server here that has systemd and I've come to >>> dislike it. It seems to be one of those "Do not open. No user >>> serviceable parts inside." sorts of things. >> >>> I was never

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On 2/23/2014 3:11 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > Hi, > > As some of you may have noticed, I have imorted a couple of days ago dma > (DragonFly Mail Agent) in base. I have been asked to explain my motivation so > here they are. > Does this support a /usr/sbin/sendmail wrapper for sending mail th

Re: [HEADSUP] Jenkins running in FreeBSD cluster

On Feb 24, 2014 6:06 AM, "Jonathan Anderson" wrote: > > This is great stuff, thanks! > > Can you say what the relationship with tinderbox is intended to be? Is this supposed to subsume tinderbox, or will they have different niches? Is Jenkins going to start e-mailing likely culprits (with e.g. htt

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Joe Nosay wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014, at 9:50, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >> > >> > On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Bryan Drewery >> wrote: >> > >> > > Anything not meeting the bare-bones criteri

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014, at 9:50, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > > > On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > > > > > Anything not meeting the bare-bones criteria can be installed with 'pkg > > > install' or ports. > > > > Try this

Re: libinit idea

On 23 Feb, David Chisnall wrote: > 5) In a world where we're moving towards sandboxing services via > Capsicum, the service launcher needs to be able to create services > with a potentially large set of initial file descriptors (including a > socket to Casper), based on the configuration policy.

Re: libinit idea

On 24 Feb, Thomas Mueller wrote: > from Don Lewis: > >> I've got a Fedora server here that has systemd and I've come to >> dislike it. It seems to be one of those "Do not open. No user >> serviceable parts inside." sorts of things. > >> I was never able to get it to start NUT properly. > >

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014, at 9:50, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > > > Anything not meeting the bare-bones criteria can be installed with 'pkg > > install' or ports. > > Try this in a shop where all your machines are completely air-gapped from > the

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014, at 8:56, Daniel Kalchev wrote: > > On 24.02.14 13:47, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > I don't believe BSD users use base system of itself to send and receive > > email. They use ports (FreeBSD) or equivalent in other BSDs. > > One of the beauties of the BSD 'base system' is that

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Feb 24, 2014, at 8:50 AM, David Chisnall wrote: > Or, purely hypothetically, if your goal was to make it work, you could just > use Poudriere which will take a list of packages that you need and build a > package set for you, which you can stick on a DVD / USB stick / whatever and > take i

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

In message , Lyndon Nerenberg writes: >On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:56 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp = >wrote: > >> Bullshit. > >Sounds like your week didn't get off to a good start. No, I'm simply calling your argument bullshit, because it is. >> You got FreeBSD in there in the first place, there clearly >>

[PATCH] Re: svn commit: r262439 - head/sys/dev/usb/input

I encountered an error during buildkernel: ... ===> usb/atp (all) --- atp.o --- clang -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include /common/S4/obj/usr/src/sys/CANARY/opt_global.h -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -fno-common -gdwarf-2 -I/

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On 24 Feb 2014, at 16:39, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > If the above doesn't work, you have to fall back to ports. And this is where > things get really hairy. Just generating the list of required distfiles is > problematic. 'make fetch-recursive-list' will give you a script to run to > pull dow

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On 2/24/2014 10:16 AM, Lucius Rizzo wrote: > * Bryan Drewery [2014-02-24 09:40]: > >> Remembering the time I spent trying to configure sendmail to not accept >> inbound mail, and trying to get it to behave how I want, I fully support >> this. Of all the years I've messed with sendmail, I still h

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:56 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > Bullshit. Sounds like your week didn't get off to a good start. > You got FreeBSD in there in the first place, there clearly > is some kind of aperture through which software can migrate. Yes, we walk in a DVD-ROM with a FreeBSD installat

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On 2/24/2014 9:56 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message , Lyndon > Nerenberg > writes: > >> Try this in a shop where all your machines are completely air-gapped >>from the internet. > > Bullshit. > > You got FreeBSD in there in the first place, there clearly > is some kind of aperture thro

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Feb 24, 2014 7:50 AM, "Lyndon Nerenberg" wrote: > > > On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > > > Anything not meeting the bare-bones criteria can be installed with 'pkg > > install' or ports. > > Try this in a shop where all your machines are completely air-gapped from the interne

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

* Bryan Drewery [2014-02-24 09:40]: > Remembering the time I spent trying to configure sendmail to not accept > inbound mail, and trying to get it to behave how I want, I fully support > this. Of all the years I've messed with sendmail, I still have little > understanding of how to configure it

Re: ntpd replacement (Was: Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent)

On 24/02/2014 15:40, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <530b666a.1000...@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: Please check how NTP is authenticated before giving bad advice, it's all in the RFC. v3 or v4? It is an optional part of the spec in both cases and again isn't required for 99% of peopl

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

In message , Lyndon Nerenberg writes: >Try this in a shop where all your machines are completely air-gapped >from the internet. Bullshit. You got FreeBSD in there in the first place, there clearly is some kind of aperture through which software can migrate. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX s

Re: libinit idea

* Don Lewis [2014-02-24 00:56]: > On 23 Feb, Lucius Rizzo wrote: > > * Andreas Nilsson [2014-02-23 09:33]: > >> Imho, the replacement to init and rc-scripts I sometimes think about > >> would be to import SMF from opensolaris/illumos. There one can at > >> least get the commands run and config us

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > Anything not meeting the bare-bones criteria can be installed with 'pkg > install' or ports. Try this in a shop where all your machines are completely air-gapped from the internet. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP usin

Re: ntpd replacement (Was: Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent)

In message <530b666a.1000...@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: >> Please check how NTP is authenticated before giving bad advice, >> it's all in the RFC. >> >v3 or v4? It is an optional part of the spec in both cases and again >isn't required for 99% of people using ntpd as a client, which was the

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On 2/23/2014 3:11 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > Hi, > > As some of you may have noticed, I have imorted a couple of days ago dma > (DragonFly Mail Agent) in base. I have been asked to explain my motivation so > here they are. > > DragonFly Mail Agent is a minimalistic mailer that is able to rel

Re: ntpd replacement (Was: Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent)

On 24/02/2014 13:52, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <530b2dee.3030...@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: The other point I should make here is that if you care that much about time security you shouldn't be contacting ntp servers over 3rd party networks anyway, at least not without some IP-l

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On 24.02.14 13:47, Thomas Mueller wrote: I don't believe BSD users use base system of itself to send and receive email. They use ports (FreeBSD) or equivalent in other BSDs. One of the beauties of the BSD 'base system' is that upon installation you have an usable workstation/server environm

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 03:30:14PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 06:17:37PM +0400, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 10:11:56PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > > > > As some of you may have noticed, I have imorted a couple of days ago dma > >

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014, at 3:41, Joe Holden wrote: > On 24/02/2014 04:26, Julio Merino wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> As some of you may have noticed, I have imorted a couple of days ago dma > >> (DragonFly Mail Agent) in base. I have been

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 06:17:37PM +0400, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 10:11:56PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > > As some of you may have noticed, I have imorted a couple of days ago dma > > (DragonFly Mail Agent) in base. I have been asked to explain my motivation >

Re: libinit idea

On 02/24/14 14:34, Andreas Nilsson wrote: On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: How about delaying the startup of services that are not necessary right at the start. For example sshd, samba etc could be loaded after xdm ( or even after the DE has loaded). On my core i5 w

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 10:11:56PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > As some of you may have noticed, I have imorted a couple of days ago dma > (DragonFly Mail Agent) in base. I have been asked to explain my motivation so > here they are. What's about suid, security separations & etc? __

Re: [HEADSUP] Jenkins running in FreeBSD cluster

This is great stuff, thanks! Can you say what the relationship with tinderbox is intended to be? Is this supposed to subsume tinderbox, or will they have different niches? Is Jenkins going to start e-mailing likely culprits (with e.g. https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Email-ext+plugin)?

Re: ntpd replacement (Was: Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent)

In message <530b2dee.3030...@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: >The other point I should make here is that if you care that much about >time security you shouldn't be contacting ntp servers over 3rd party >networks anyway, at least not without some IP-level >encryption/authentication, or use a s

Re: libinit idea

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Bruno Lauzé wrote: > > > It's really good to read the comments and see people point of view on > this > > topic. > > I totally agree RC system is really good and stable, easy and extensible. > > The main

Re: libinit idea

On 24 Feb 2014, at 13:25, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: > How about delaying the startup of services that are not necessary right at > the start. For example sshd, samba etc could be loaded after xdm ( or even > after the DE has loaded). It's a good idea, but it depends on a far more complex system

Re: libinit idea

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Bruno Lauzé wrote: > It's really good to read the comments and see people point of view on this > topic. > I totally agree RC system is really good and stable, easy and extensible. > The main concern I have here is performance. Starting a system is really > slow.

RE: libinit idea

It's really good to read the comments and see people point of view on this topic.  I totally agree RC system is really good and stable, easy and extensible. The main concern I have here is performance. Starting a system is really slow. Boot to X (with simple xdm) is minimum 25 secs and I just feel

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

I never got far enough with DragonFlyBSD or OpenBSD on live USB to see osmpd or opensmtpd (OpenBSD or dma (DragonFly). I couldn't read hard drive from either OpenBSD or DragonFly, could read OpenBSD but not DragonFly live USB stick from FreeBSD and NetBSD, meaning poor interoperability on my sy

Re: ntpd replacement (Was: Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent)

On 24/02/2014 11:26, Joe Holden wrote: On 24/02/2014 11:18, Ollivier Robert wrote: According to Joe Holden on Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:13:23AM +: hm, I can't say I have noticed this as being a problem where I've used it, are there any scenarios where this is a showstopper? Non-support for

Re: ntpd replacement (Was: Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent)

On 24/02/2014 11:18, Ollivier Robert wrote: According to Joe Holden on Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:13:23AM +: hm, I can't say I have noticed this as being a problem where I've used it, are there any scenarios where this is a showstopper? Non-support for auth is a concern, lack of NTPv4 protoco

ntpd replacement (Was: Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent)

According to Joe Holden on Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:13:23AM +: > hm, I can't say I have noticed this as being a problem where I've > used it, are there any scenarios where this is a showstopper? Non-support for auth is a concern, lack of NTPv4 protocol support is another. Base ntpd also inclu

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

In message <530b2953.3030...@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: >> openntpd not able to authenticate the sources it is using and thus lack a big >> ntp feature as a client. Last I looked its clock-discipline algorithm were non-existent, it just slammed the clock around. >hm, I can't say I have not

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:13:23AM +, Joe Holden wrote: > On 24/02/2014 11:08, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:04:48AM +, Joe Holden wrote: > >> On 24/02/2014 10:56, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >>> In message <530b2500.5030...@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: > >>> >

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On 24/02/2014 11:08, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:04:48AM +, Joe Holden wrote: On 24/02/2014 10:56, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <530b2500.5030...@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: Can I also suggest that ntp.org shouldn't be in the base either? :P I absolu

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:04:48AM +, Joe Holden wrote: > On 24/02/2014 10:56, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > In message <530b2500.5030...@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: > > > >> Can I also suggest that ntp.org shouldn't be in the base either? :P > > > > I absolutely agree, but the replacement

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On 24/02/2014 10:56, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <530b2500.5030...@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: Can I also suggest that ntp.org shouldn't be in the base either? :P I absolutely agree, but the replacement is less clear in that case. I'd suggest openntpd as a candidate as it would

Re: libinit idea

from Don Lewis: > I've got a Fedora server here that has systemd and I've come to dislike > it. It seems to be one of those "Do not open. No user serviceable > parts inside." sorts of things. > I was never able to get it to start NUT properly. > More often than not, it fails to come up mul

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

In message <530b2500.5030...@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: >Can I also suggest that ntp.org shouldn't be in the base either? :P I absolutely agree, but the replacement is less clear in that case. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On 24/02/2014 10:00, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 09:56:05AM +, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <530b13ca.6000...@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: On 24/02/2014 04:26, Julio Merino wrote: On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: As some of you

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 09:56:05AM +, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <530b13ca.6000...@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: > >On 24/02/2014 04:26, Julio Merino wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Baptiste Daroussin > >> wrote: > > >>> As some of you may have noticed, I have imort

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

In message <530b13ca.6000...@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: >On 24/02/2014 04:26, Julio Merino wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>> As some of you may have noticed, I have imorted a couple of days ago dma >>> (DragonFly Mail Agent) in base. I have been asked t

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On 24/02/2014 04:26, Julio Merino wrote: On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: Hi, As some of you may have noticed, I have imorted a couple of days ago dma (DragonFly Mail Agent) in base. I have been asked to explain my motivation so here they are. DragonFly Mail Agent is

March 13: Jenkins and BHyve presentation

Hi, I will be giving a talk discussing what I have done settings up Jenkins ( https://jenkins.freebsd.org ) in the FreeBSD cluster, using BHyve VM's: The presentation will be on March 13 in Mountain View, California, U.S.A.: http://www.meetup.com/BAFUG-Bay-Area-FreeBSD-User-Group/events/16732593

Re: libinit idea

On 23 Feb, Lucius Rizzo wrote: > * Andreas Nilsson [2014-02-23 09:33]: >> Imho, the replacement to init and rc-scripts I sometimes think about >> would be to import SMF from opensolaris/illumos. There one can at >> least get the commands run and config used without looking at the >> source code. >

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:38:14PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, Baptiste. > You wrote 24 февраля 2014 г., 1:11:56: > > BD> DragonFly Mail Agent is a minimalistic mailer that is able to relay mails > to > BD> some smtp servers (with TLS, authentication and so on) > One question: why not

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On 24 Feb 2014, at 08:35, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > dma can exactly do that :) while being smaller than opensmtpd (which is very > very nice as well, this is the one I use when I need a full smtp setup :)) Sounds excellent then. We definitely should be moving to a world where all of the base

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

Hello, Baptiste. You wrote 24 февраля 2014 г., 1:11:56: BD> DragonFly Mail Agent is a minimalistic mailer that is able to relay mails to BD> some smtp servers (with TLS, authentication and so on) One question: why not OpenSMTPD from OpenBSD? -- // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov __

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 08:32:13AM +, David Chisnall wrote: > On 24 Feb 2014, at 07:34, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > > Usual complains about sendmail in base until now has been: > > - complex configuration > > - long history of security concerns > > - no need for a full mta in base > > The

Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent

On 24 Feb 2014, at 07:34, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > Usual complains about sendmail in base until now has been: > - complex configuration > - long history of security concerns > - no need for a full mta in base The other complaint is that sendmail is only half of a useable MTA in base. If you