On Saturday, 25 August 2012 at 01:33, Glen Barber wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 01:25:15AM +0100, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
> > On 24 Aug 2012, at 23:38, Doug Barton > (mailto:do...@freebsd.org)> wrote:
> > > Let me rephrase that more simply ... very few users are ever going to
> > > need the bo
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On 8/24/2012 5:33 PM, Glen Barber wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 01:25:15AM +0100, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
>> On 24 Aug 2012, at 23:38, Doug Barton wrote:
>>> Let me rephrase that more simply ... very few users are ever going to
>>> need the boot
On 24 Aug 2012, at 23:38, Doug Barton wrote:
> Let me rephrase that more simply ... very few users are ever going to
> need the bootstrapping tool that will be in the base.
But surely the whole point of pkgng is that people *will* use pkg as the
default method of acquiring third-party software,
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 01:47:26AM +0100, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
> On Saturday, 25 August 2012 at 01:33, Glen Barber wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 01:25:15AM +0100, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
> > > On 24 Aug 2012, at 23:38, Doug Barton > > (mailto:do...@freebsd.org)> wrote:
> > > > Let me rep
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 01:25:15AM +0100, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
> On 24 Aug 2012, at 23:38, Doug Barton wrote:
> > Let me rephrase that more simply ... very few users are ever going to
> > need the bootstrapping tool that will be in the base.
>
So, then they won't use it. I fail to see the p
On 08/24/12 07:13, John Baldwin wrote:
> On Friday, August 24, 2012 8:45:43 am Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
>> John Baldwin writes:
>>> Note that on i386 you can't get more than 4GB of RAM without PAE, and if you
>>> have any modern x86 box with > 4GB of RAM, you are most likely running amd64
>>> on
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 03:38:33PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
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> On 8/24/2012 1:15 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > BTW for people who haven't tested and want to share their opinion,
> > here is how work /usr/sbin/pkg:
> >
> > it first checks i
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On 8/24/2012 1:15 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> BTW for people who haven't tested and want to share their opinion,
> here is how work /usr/sbin/pkg:
>
> it first checks if ${LOCALBASE}/sbin/pkg is there - if yes it
> directly execute ${LOCALBASE}/
On 8/23/2012 8:03 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:
> On 23 August 2012 22:59, Doug Barton wrote:
>> I tend to agree with Steve here ... we can't be responsible for other
>> people's poorly written docs.
>
> This isn't about poorly written docs. This is the user expecting a
> tool to exist, which doesn't.
On 08/24/2012 11:54, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:12:51AM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
On 08/24/2012 09:57, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:43:33AM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
On 08/23/2012 12:45, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:08:40PM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:12:51AM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
> On 08/24/2012 09:57, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> >On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:43:33AM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
> >>On 08/23/2012 12:45, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> >>>On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:08:40PM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
> >>>...
> >yes i do see th
On 08/24/2012 09:57, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:43:33AM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
On 08/23/2012 12:45, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:08:40PM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
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yes i do see that.
Maybe less aggressive with M_NOWAIT but still kills processes.
Are you co
On 8/24/2012 11:02 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:50:30AM -0500, Bryan Drewery wrote:
>> On 8/24/2012 9:31 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 02:23:47PM +0200, Alex Dupre wrote:
Baptiste Daroussin ha scritto:
> On of the thing I forgo
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:50:30AM -0500, Bryan Drewery wrote:
> On 8/24/2012 9:31 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 02:23:47PM +0200, Alex Dupre wrote:
> >> Baptiste Daroussin ha scritto:
> >>
> >>> On of the thing I forgot and kan@ has added is a prompt for the user in
>
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Ulrich Spörlein wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 22:24:56 +0100, Simon L. B. Nielsen wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> If you are not using geli(4) on -CURRENT (AKA FreeBSD 10) you can safely
>> ignore this mail. If you are, please read on!
>>
>> -CURRENT users of geli(4) shoul
On 8/24/2012 9:31 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 02:23:47PM +0200, Alex Dupre wrote:
>> Baptiste Daroussin ha scritto:
>>
>>> On of the thing I forgot and kan@ has added is a prompt for the user in
>>> case it
>>> is going to bootstrap.
>>
>> So, removing the prompt will m
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:43:33AM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
> On 08/23/2012 12:45, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> >On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:08:40PM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
> >...
> >>>yes i do see that.
> >>>
> >>>Maybe less aggressive with M_NOWAIT but still kills processes.
> >>Are you compiling world with
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 02:23:47PM +0200, Alex Dupre wrote:
> Baptiste Daroussin ha scritto:
>
> > On of the thing I forgot and kan@ has added is a prompt for the user in
> > case it
> > is going to bootstrap.
>
> So, removing the prompt will make everybody happy? :-)
>
> What about a prompt wi
On Friday, August 24, 2012 8:45:43 am Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> John Baldwin writes:
> > Note that on i386 you can't get more than 4GB of RAM without PAE, and if you
> > have any modern x86 box with > 4GB of RAM, you are most likely running amd64
> > on it, not i386. I think i386 would be fine
On 2012-08-24 15:07, Dima Panov wrote:
24.08.2012 19:12, Dimitry Andric пишет:
...
You are most likely setting CPP as follows:
CPP=clang -E
Don't do that, use the following instead:
CPP=clang-cpp
If there is no clang-cpp symlink in /usr/bin yet, just make it manually
for now. It will
24.08.2012 19:12, Dimitry Andric пишет:
On 2012-08-24 05:55, Dima Panov wrote:
Does anybody get same error at buildworld with recent -current?
...
In file included from /usr/src/lib/libc/../../include/rpc/rpc.h:76:
/usr/src/lib/libc/../../include/rpc/rpcb_clnt.h:69:8: error: unknown
type name
John Baldwin writes:
> Note that on i386 you can't get more than 4GB of RAM without PAE, and if you
> have any modern x86 box with > 4GB of RAM, you are most likely running amd64
> on it, not i386. I think i386 would be fine to just keep the limit it had.
The limit we had was insufficient for 8
On Friday, August 24, 2012 5:44:48 am Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> John Baldwin writes:
> > Hmm, this is not true on i386 where the problem is not just the physical
> > RAM required, but also address space. (The swap zone is all mapped into
> > KVA
> > even if it isn't used.) This is why Alan'
Baptiste Daroussin ha scritto:
> On of the thing I forgot and kan@ has added is a prompt for the user in case
> it
> is going to bootstrap.
So, removing the prompt will make everybody happy? :-)
What about a prompt with timeout? "This is the first time pkg is run,
I'll start bootstrapping in 10
On 24 Aug 2012 11:08, "Jeffrey Bouquet" wrote:
>
> A few more reasons (unless I have not seen some relevant documentation to
the contrary) to not mandate pkgng as the default...
Why don't you phrase this as "How can one ..." so you sound less negative?
> Nowadays, one can save time by installing
A few more reasons (unless I have not seen some relevant documentation to the
contrary) to not mandate pkgng as the default...
Nowadays, one can save time by installing two ports which officially or
unofficially conflict, and have /var/db/pkg entries for both, and even
local workarounds (for ins
John Baldwin writes:
> Hmm, this is not true on i386 where the problem is not just the physical
> RAM required, but also address space. (The swap zone is all mapped into KVA
> even if it isn't used.) This is why Alan's e-mail specifically
> mentioned amd64, ia64, etc. but not i386 in his list.
On 08/24/2012 10:15, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 06:19:57PM -0400, Steve Wills wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> It seems to me that renaming the pkg binary in /usr/sbin/pkg to
>> /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap would make sense. From a user standpoint, it is
>> confusing that running the comma
On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:00:25 -0400
Eitan Adler wrote:
> On 23 August 2012 22:55, Steve Wills wrote:
>
> > As far as I understand it, POLA is about changing existing things:
>
> okay, so forget POLA. My point is that a user following a how to or
> even *our* documentation on how to install som
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 06:19:57PM -0400, Steve Wills wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It seems to me that renaming the pkg binary in /usr/sbin/pkg to
> /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap would make sense. From a user standpoint, it is
> confusing that running the command gets different results the second time it
> is ru
On 2012-08-24 05:55, Dima Panov wrote:
Does anybody get same error at buildworld with recent -current?
...
In file included from /usr/src/lib/libc/../../include/rpc/rpc.h:76:
/usr/src/lib/libc/../../include/rpc/rpcb_clnt.h:69:8: error: unknown
type name 'rpcblist'
extern rpcblist *rpcb_getmaps(
On 8/24/2012 3:57 AM, Eitan Adler wrote:
On 23 August 2012 18:19, Steve Wills wrote:
Hi,
It seems to me that renaming the pkg binary in /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap
would make sense. From a user standpoint, it is confusing that running the command gets
different results the secon
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