Re: SU+J systems do not fsck themselves

2011-12-27 Thread Scott Long
On Dec 28, 2011, at 12:34 AM, David Thiel wrote: > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:54:20PM -0700, Scott Long wrote: >> The first run of fsck, using the journal, gives results that I would >> expect. The second run seems to imply that the fixes made on the >> first run didn't actually get written to

Re: SU+J systems do not fsck themselves

2011-12-27 Thread David Thiel
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:54:20PM -0700, Scott Long wrote: > The first run of fsck, using the journal, gives results that I would > expect. The second run seems to imply that the fixes made on the > first run didn't actually get written to disk. This is definitely an > oddity. I see that you

Re: SU+J systems do not fsck themselves

2011-12-27 Thread Scott Long
On Dec 27, 2011, at 10:14 PM, David Thiel wrote: > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 02:48:22PM -0800, Xin Li wrote: - use journalled fsck; - use normal fsck to check if the journalled fsck did the right thing. > > Ok, here is the log of fsck with and without journal. > > http://redundancy.redu

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-27 Thread Doug Barton
On 12/27/2011 22:08, Adrian Chadd wrote: > Hi, > > Why not just list the things that sysinstall did that people like, and > extract out / reimplement those bits? That's sounds great. As soon as that's done, we can remove sysinstall from the base. Until those things exist, removing it is premature

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-27 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hi, Why not just list the things that sysinstall did that people like, and extract out / reimplement those bits? Noone's going to complain if you write say, a stand-alone package browser, or a stand-alone gui upgrade tool, or stand-alone configuration program, etc. Adrian _

Re: SU+J systems do not fsck themselves

2011-12-27 Thread David Thiel
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 02:48:22PM -0800, Xin Li wrote: > >> - use journalled fsck; - use normal fsck to check if the > >> journalled fsck did the right thing. Ok, here is the log of fsck with and without journal. http://redundancy.redundancy.org/fscklog3 That was done the very next boot, after

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-27 Thread Doug Barton
On 12/27/2011 18:32, Lawrence Stewart wrote: > On 12/28/11 06:29, Doug Barton wrote: >> On 12/27/2011 03:48, Lawrence Stewart wrote: >>> On the topic of Doug's actual question, I see minimal sense in >>> resurrecting sysinstall in head now. I would suggest it be done much >>> closer to (say, 6 mont

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-27 Thread Lawrence Stewart
On 12/28/11 06:29, Doug Barton wrote: On 12/27/2011 03:48, Lawrence Stewart wrote: On the topic of Doug's actual question, I see minimal sense in resurrecting sysinstall in head now. I would suggest it be done much closer to (say, 6 months before) the 10.0 release cycle, if no suitable post-inst

Re: [rfc] removing/conditionalising WERROR= in Makefiles

2011-12-27 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2011-12-27 02:04, Philip Paeps wrote: On 2011-12-26 10:10:40 (+), Alexander Best wrote: i grep'ed through src/sys and found several places where WERROR= was set in order to get rid of the default -Werror setting. i tried to remove those WERROR= overrides from any Makefile, where doing so

Re: [rfc] removing/conditionalising WERROR= in Makefiles

2011-12-27 Thread Alexander Best
On Tue Dec 27 11, Warner Losh wrote: > > On Dec 26, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Philip Paeps wrote: > > > On 2011-12-26 10:10:40 (+), Alexander Best wrote: > >> i grep'ed through src/sys and found several places where WERROR= was set in > >> order to get rid of the default -Werror setting. i tried to

Re: SU+J systems do not fsck themselves

2011-12-27 Thread Xin Li
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/27/11 14:36, David Thiel wrote: > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 02:29:03PM -0800, Xin LI wrote: >> I'm not sure if your experiments are right here, the second log >> shows you're running it read-only, which is likely caused by >> running it on live fil

Re: SU+J systems do not fsck themselves

2011-12-27 Thread David Thiel
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 02:29:03PM -0800, Xin LI wrote: > I'm not sure if your experiments are right here, the second log shows > you're running it read-only, which is likely caused by running it on > live file system. Yes, this most recent instance is me running it on a live FS, because I'm us

Re: SU+J systems do not fsck themselves

2011-12-27 Thread Xin LI
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:53 PM, David Thiel wrote: > I've had multiple machines now (9.0-RC3, amd64, i386 and earlier > 9-CURRENT on ppc) running SU+J that have had unexplained panics and > crashes start happening relating to disk I/O. When I end up running a > full fsck, it keeps turning out tha

fetch reading one char at a time

2011-12-27 Thread Julian Elischer
I noted the following behaviour from "fetch" today.. I am actually hunting another problem so I'm just posting it here in case anyone recognises it and knows where to fix it... "d" 48885 fetchRET read 1 48885 fetchCALL gettimeofday(0x7fffcda0,0) 48885 fetchRET get

SU+J systems do not fsck themselves

2011-12-27 Thread David Thiel
I've had multiple machines now (9.0-RC3, amd64, i386 and earlier 9-CURRENT on ppc) running SU+J that have had unexplained panics and crashes start happening relating to disk I/O. When I end up running a full fsck, it keeps turning out that the disk is dirty and corrupted, but no mechanism is in

Re: [rfc] removing/conditionalising WERROR= in Makefiles

2011-12-27 Thread Warner Losh
On Dec 26, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Philip Paeps wrote: > On 2011-12-26 10:10:40 (+), Alexander Best wrote: >> i grep'ed through src/sys and found several places where WERROR= was set in >> order to get rid of the default -Werror setting. i tried to remove those >> WERROR= overrides from any Makefi

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-27 Thread Gavin Atkinson
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011, Ron McDowell wrote: > As a related question, is there a good primer somewhere about how to use SVN? > I'm using csup at present. - Install the subversion port - Downlaod the source. To get HEAD code: svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head/ or to get 9-stable code:

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-27 Thread Doug Barton
On 12/27/2011 03:48, Lawrence Stewart wrote: > On the topic of Doug's actual question, I see minimal sense in > resurrecting sysinstall in head now. I would suggest it be done much > closer to (say, 6 months before) the 10.0 release cycle, if no suitable > post-installation configuration tool has m

Re: [rfc] removing/conditionalising WERROR= in Makefiles

2011-12-27 Thread Alexander Best
On Tue Dec 27 11, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:27:43AM +, Alexander Best wrote: > > On Tue Dec 27 11, Philip Paeps wrote: > > > On 2011-12-26 10:10:40 (+), Alexander Best > > > wrote: > > > > i grep'ed through src/sys and found several places where WERROR= was > > > >

Re: dogfooding over in clusteradm land

2011-12-27 Thread Florian Smeets
On 14.12.11 14:20, Sean Bruno wrote: > We're seeing what looks like a syncher/ufs resource starvation on 9.0 on > the cvs2svn ports conversion box. I'm not sure what resource is tapped > out. Effectively, I cannot access the directory under use and the > converter application stalls out waiting f

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-27 Thread Steve Kargl
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:50:54AM -0600, Ron McDowell wrote: > > As a related question, is there a good primer somewhere about how to use > SVN? I'm using csup at present. > http://wiki.freebsd.org/SubversionPrimer -- Steve ___ freebsd-current@fre

Re: re(4) driver dropping packets when reading NFS files

2011-12-27 Thread YongHyeon PYUN
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 10:55:50PM -0500, Rick Macklem wrote: > Way back in Nov 2010, this thread was related to a problem I > had, where an re(4) { 810xE PCIe 10/100baseTX, according to the > driver } interface dropped received packets, resulting in a > significant impact of NFS performance. > >

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-27 Thread Ron McDowell
Lawrence Stewart wrote: On 12/27/11 16:13, Ron McDowell wrote: Doug Barton wrote: The story so far ... sysinstall was removed from HEAD in October. I (and others) objected on the basis that at this time there is no replacement for the post-install configuration role that sysinstall played. M

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-27 Thread Bruce Cran
I think such a tool should /not/ be a port, since I expect it would include a package browser in it. I think it's something that could really help new users get used to FreeBSD without having to trawl through man pages right at the start. -- Bruce Cran Sent from my iPad On 27 Dec 2011, at 05

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-27 Thread Lawrence Stewart
On 12/27/11 16:13, Ron McDowell wrote: Doug Barton wrote: The story so far ... sysinstall was removed from HEAD in October. I (and others) objected on the basis that at this time there is no replacement for the post-install configuration role that sysinstall played. More sysinstall components w

Re: [rfc] removing/conditionalising WERROR= in Makefiles

2011-12-27 Thread Luigi Rizzo
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:27:43AM +, Alexander Best wrote: > On Tue Dec 27 11, Philip Paeps wrote: > > On 2011-12-26 10:10:40 (+), Alexander Best wrote: > > > i grep'ed through src/sys and found several places where WERROR= was set > > > in > > > order to get rid of the default -Werror s

Re: [rfc] removing/conditionalising WERROR= in Makefiles

2011-12-27 Thread Alexander Best
On Tue Dec 27 11, Philip Paeps wrote: > On 2011-12-26 10:10:40 (+), Alexander Best wrote: > > i grep'ed through src/sys and found several places where WERROR= was set in > > order to get rid of the default -Werror setting. i tried to remove those > > WERROR= overrides from any Makefile, where

Re: [rfc] removing/conditionalising WERROR= in Makefiles

2011-12-27 Thread Philip Paeps
On 2011-12-26 10:10:40 (+), Alexander Best wrote: > i grep'ed through src/sys and found several places where WERROR= was set in > order to get rid of the default -Werror setting. i tried to remove those > WERROR= overrides from any Makefile, where doing so did not break tinderbox. > > in thos