Re: FreeBSD Project management (was: Patch sets to date and timi

2002-02-20 Thread George V. Neville-Neil
> There is http://www.freebsd.org/smp/ > > If someone wanted to convert this over to Twiki, go for it. New ideas to add > to the list are welcome as well. > I'll install TWiki on my home server tomorrow and publish when I'm ready, probably a day or so if all goes well. Then people can try it

Re: Patch to improve mutex collision performance

2002-02-20 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 20 February 2002 at 23:48:12 -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 21-Feb-02 Greg Lehey wrote: >> On Monday, 18 February 2002 at 15:38:07 -0500, Jake Burkholder wrote: >>> Apparently, On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 11:51:44AM -0800, >>> Matthew Dillon said words to the effect of;

Re: FreeBSD Project management (was: Patch sets to date and timi

2002-02-20 Thread John Baldwin
On 21-Feb-02 George V. Neville-Neil wrote: > I'm not in the core of the SMP stuff (the closest I'll get is the > networking stuff) but I wonder if there is: > > 1) A work list of things that need to be done. > > 2) If that list is easy to read/update. > > Has anyone considered a Wiki to do th

Re: RE: Patch to improve mutex collision performance

2002-02-20 Thread John Baldwin
On 21-Feb-02 Matthew Dillon wrote: > This sounds better but why do we need a 'pause' at all? I don't > think spinning in this case will have any effect on power > consumption. The pause is extra stuff mostly needed for the HyperThreading stuff on the Pentium4 and also it helps impro

Re: Patch to improve mutex collision performance

2002-02-20 Thread John Baldwin
On 21-Feb-02 Greg Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 18 February 2002 at 15:38:07 -0500, Jake Burkholder wrote: >> Apparently, On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 11:51:44AM -0800, >> Matthew Dillon said words to the effect of; >>> I'm fairly sure JHB does not have a patch to address this but, please, >>>

Re: Patch to improve mutex collision performance

2002-02-20 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Matthew Dillon wrote: :> I'm not interested in using P4. I think it's a mistake. That is, I :> think it is being severely overused. At the very least it is preventing :> me from comitting simple things to -current because as far as I can tell :> when you add up the junk sittin

make release failure in kerberos

2002-02-20 Thread John Hay
Hi Jacques, Make release fails here. Can it be your changes to kerberos? John -- John Hay -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===> libexec/kdc ... cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/kerberos5/libexec/kdc/../../../crypto/heimdal/include -I/usr/src/kerberos5/libexec/kdc/../../../crypto/heimdal/kdc

Re: Version control software (was: Patch sets to date and timing tests with Giant out of userret.)

2002-02-20 Thread Terry Lambert
Greg Lehey wrote: > On Tuesday, 19 February 2002 at 16:44:06 -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 01:51:31PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: > >> Bitkeeper enforces the linux devleopment model > >> to a large extent, > > > > In what way(s)? > > I'd be interested in this too. I've

Re: Patch to improve mutex collision performance

2002-02-20 Thread Terry Lambert
Matthew Dillon wrote: > I'm not interested in using P4. I think it's a mistake. That is, I > think it is being severely overused. At the very least it is preventing > me from comitting simple things to -current because as far as I can tell > when you add up the junk sitting in P

Re: Perforce repo (was: Patch sets to date and timing tests with Giant out of userret.)

2002-02-20 Thread Bernd Walter
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 06:31:14PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > On Tuesday, 19 February 2002 at 0:00:19 -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > > > Am I the only person who, despite careful scrutiny, missed this > > announcement? I would have thought

Re: FreeBSD Project management (was: Patch sets to date and timing tests with Giant out of userret.)

2002-02-20 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 20 February 2002 at 21:42:48 -0500, Andrew R. Reiter wrote: > On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: > >> I'm not in the core of the SMP stuff (the closest I'll get is the >> networking stuff) but I wonder if there is: > > Doesn't this belong on [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that

Re: FreeBSD Project management (was: Patch sets to date and timing tests with Giant out of userret.)

2002-02-20 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 20 February 2002 at 18:35:37 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Greg Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020220 18:26] wrote: >> >> I'm not picking on jhb here. This is the project's fault, not any >> individual's. We need some kind of project management to coordinate >> this effort, or the

Re: FreeBSD Project management (was: Patch sets to date and timing tests with Giant out of userret.)

2002-02-20 Thread Andrew R. Reiter
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: :I'm not in the core of the SMP stuff (the closest I'll get is the :networking stuff) but I wonder if there is: Doesn't this belong on [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that SMP people could answer? : :1) A work list of things that need to be done. : :2) I

Re: Perforce repo (was: Patch sets to date and timing tests withGiant out of userret.)

2002-02-20 Thread Julian Elischer
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Tuesday, 19 February 2002 at 0:00:19 -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > Am I the only person who, despite careful scrutiny, missed this > announcement? I would have thought that this would at least have been > worth a HEADS UP and prior discussion in -cor

Re: FreeBSD Project management (was: Patch sets to date and timing tests with Giant out of userret.)

2002-02-20 Thread George V. Neville-Neil
I'm not in the core of the SMP stuff (the closest I'll get is the networking stuff) but I wonder if there is: 1) A work list of things that need to be done. 2) If that list is easy to read/update. Has anyone considered a Wiki to do this kind of coordination? We used TWiki at my last employer

Re: FreeBSD Project management (was: Patch sets to date and timing tests with Giant out of userret.)

2002-02-20 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Greg Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020220 18:26] wrote: > > I'm not picking on jhb here. This is the project's fault, not any > individual's. We need some kind of project management to coordinate > this effort, or the results will be seriously suboptimal. I would > certainly not like to see dil

FreeBSD Project management (was: Patch sets to date and timing tests with Giant out of userret.)

2002-02-20 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 18 February 2002 at 23:04:03 -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > Matthew Dillon wrote: >>> What a waste.. John has already done all this stuff already (using >>> td_ucred instead of p_ucred) over the entire tree. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> -Peter >> >> He didn't instrument Giant, and if you actuall

Perforce repo (was: Patch sets to date and timing tests with Giant out of userret.)

2002-02-20 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 19 February 2002 at 0:00:19 -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > Julian Elischer wrote: >> I'd prefer to be working on a branch of CVS if it weren't for the people >> that would scream whenever I moved my merged tag up. >> (eek eek cvsup bloat). >> That way i would have a dozen people helping m

Version control software (was: Patch sets to date and timing tests with Giant out of userret.)

2002-02-20 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 19 February 2002 at 16:44:06 -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 01:51:31PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: >> Bitkeeper enforces the linux devleopment model >> to a large extent, > > In what way(s)? I'd be interested in this too. I've been using Bitkeeper for, well, L

Re: Patch to improve mutex collision performance

2002-02-20 Thread Matthew Dillon
:On Monday, 18 February 2002 at 15:38:07 -0500, Jake Burkholder wrote: :> Apparently, On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 11:51:44AM -0800, :> Matthew Dillon said words to the effect of; :>> I'm fairly sure JHB does not have a patch to address this but, please, :>> be my guest and check P4. :> :

Re: RE: Patch to improve mutex collision performance

2002-02-20 Thread Matthew Dillon
This sounds better but why do we need a 'pause' at all? I don't think spinning in this case will have any effect on power consumption. -Matt Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL

Re: Patch to improve mutex collision performance

2002-02-20 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 18 February 2002 at 15:38:07 -0500, Jake Burkholder wrote: > Apparently, On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 11:51:44AM -0800, > Matthew Dillon said words to the effect of; >> I'm fairly sure JHB does not have a patch to address this but, please, >> be my guest and check P4. > > Actua

Re: ports/34908: libpng port makes bad dynamic library on -CURRENT

2002-02-20 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi -current, I ventured into this brave new world a few days ago and ran into this very problem. Alexander's patch (along with a make install in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils) fixed it, as advertised. Maybe this can now be committed? --Stijn -- Help Wanted: Telepath. You know where to apply.

Re: Patch sets to date and timing tests with Giant out of userre

2002-02-20 Thread John Baldwin
On 19-Feb-02 Terry Lambert wrote: > Julian Elischer wrote: >> The fully safe version of this code is: >> td->td_retval[0] = td->td_ucred->cr_ruid; >> td->td_retval[1] = td->td_ucred->cr_uid; >> return (0); >> >> because td->td_ucred is read-only for it's whole existance. > > ??? > > Are you su

RE: Patch to improve mutex collision performance

2002-02-20 Thread John Baldwin
On 18-Feb-02 Matthew Dillon wrote: > While testing some Giant removal stuff I noticed that my current > system sometimes got into an extremely non-optimal flip-flop situation > between two processes contesting Giant on an SMP system which halved the > syscall performance in the te

RE: pgrp/session patch

2002-02-20 Thread John Baldwin
On 19-Feb-02 Seigo Tanimura wrote: > Here is the most up-to-date version of pgrp/session lock (at Change 6700): > > http://people.FreeBSD.org/~tanimura/patches/pgrp10.diff.gz > > I would like to commit this on the next Sunday. Otherwise, my patch > would conflict with other patches, especially

Re: Kernel compile error with today's cvsup.

2002-02-20 Thread Edwin Culp
David, I see it's already fixed so I'll assume that you no longer need the compiler output. I'm sorry that I didn't answer before but I just checked my email and went to some meetings and am just getting back. Thanks for your help, ed Quoting David O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Feb

Re: Ethernet tunnel device

2002-02-20 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020220 11:13] wrote: > Mark Santcroos wrote: > > > I managed to create a simple linux program that had the same problem. From > > there on it was easy... > > > > The problem was created by Alfred's locking commit of Jan 13. > > (No hard feelings, it helped me

Re: Ethernet tunnel device

2002-02-20 Thread Terry Lambert
Mark Santcroos wrote: > On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 01:02:09AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Pretty clearly, if it happens, and the process is truly > > gone, then there is a resource track cleanup that's > > missing (perhaps it's a reference that results from the > > Linux mmap resource track clean

Re: cannot exec `cpp0': No such file or directory

2002-02-20 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 06:02:38PM +0100, Jose M. Alcaide wrote: > $ cc p.c -o p > cc: installation problem, cannot exec `cpp0': No such file or directory Fixed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Sorry, false alarm (was: Panic with today's -CURRENT at runq_choose+0x83)

2002-02-20 Thread David Wolfskill
>Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 07:49:19 -0800 (PST) >From: David Wolfskill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Just built & installed today's -CURRENT (CVSup around 0347 hrs. PST): >... >Stopped at runq_choose+0x83: movl0(%edx),%eax >db> trace >runq_choose(c035a660,d683cd0c,c02b1b3e,c01a8d87,12e) at ru

Re: cannot exec `cpp0': No such file or directory

2002-02-20 Thread Jose M. Alcaide
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 09:21:14AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > I need to see the output of ``/usr/bin/cc -print-search-dirs'' from the > problematic compiler. $ /usr/bin/cc -print-search-dirs install: /usr/libexec/(null) programs: /usr/libexec/elf/ libraries: /usr/lib/ -- ** Jose M. Alcai

Re: Kernel compile error with today's cvsup.

2002-02-20 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 05:53:59AM -0800, Edwin Culp wrote: > On my daily build, my kernels are broken as per log: > > ===> wi > cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PIII850N; MAKESRCPATH=/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm > make - > f /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/Makefile > Warning: Object directory not ch

Re: cannot exec `cpp0': No such file or directory

2002-02-20 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 06:02:38PM +0100, Jose M. Alcaide wrote: > Using ktrace(1), I found that now cc searchs its subcomponents in > /usr/libexec/elf. However, installworld puts them in /usr/libexec. ... > Could this problem be related to the recent changes to > src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/freeb

Re: Kernel compile error with today's cvsup.

2002-02-20 Thread John Hay
> On my daily build, my kernels are broken as per log: > > ===> wi > cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PIII850N; MAKESRCPATH=/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm > make - > f /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/Makefile > Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PIII850N > cc -O -p

Re: Ethernet tunnel device

2002-02-20 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Mark Santcroos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020220 03:52] wrote: > > It was indeed a linux_compat specific resource cleanup issue. > > I managed to create a simple linux program that had the same problem. From > there on it was easy... > > The problem was created by Alfred's locking commit of Jan 13

cannot exec `cpp0': No such file or directory

2002-02-20 Thread Jose M. Alcaide
Hello, Just made world, and now cc(1) fails: $ cc p.c -o p cc: installation problem, cannot exec `cpp0': No such file or directory Using ktrace(1), I found that now cc searchs its subcomponents in /usr/libexec/elf. However, installworld puts them in /usr/libexec. Nothing is said about this prob

Panic with today's -CURRENT at runq_choose+0x83

2002-02-20 Thread David Wolfskill
Just built & installed today's -CURRENT (CVSup around 0347 hrs. PST): Wed Feb 20 05:48:23 PST 2002 FreeBSD/i386 (freebeast.catwhisker.org) (cuaa0) login: Fboot() called on cpu#0 Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...stopped lock order reversal 1st 0xc0337420 sched lock

Kernel compile error with today's cvsup.

2002-02-20 Thread Edwin Culp
On my daily build, my kernels are broken as per log: ===> wi cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PIII850N; MAKESRCPATH=/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm make - f /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/Makefile Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PIII850N cc -O -pipe -I/usr/incl

Re: mergemaster and /etc/pam.d

2002-02-20 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, John Baldwin wrote: > > I don't think pam.d is installed right now by default. Once it is > > turned on by default I think mergemaster will DTRT. > John's right. By design, mm only knows about things installed by > /usr/src/etc/M

RE: mergemaster and /etc/pam.d

2002-02-20 Thread Doug Barton
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 04-Jan-02 Michael D. Harnois wrote: > > mergemaster does not pick up changes to the /etc/pam.d directory. Is > > this a feature? > > I don't think pam.d is installed right now by default. Once it is turned on by > default I think mergemaster will DT

Re: Ethernet tunnel device

2002-02-20 Thread Mark Santcroos
On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 01:02:09AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > Pretty clearly, if it happens, and the process is truly > gone, then there is a resource track cleanup that's > missing (perhaps it's a reference that results from the > Linux mmap resource track cleanup not releasing it?). It was i

Re: Kernel Debugging over the Ethernet?

2002-02-20 Thread Maxim Sobolev
If my memory serves some time ago Jonathan Lemon was planning to add ability to remotely debug kernel via TCP/IP. Try to contact him and ask about the status of his work. -Maxim Julian Elischer wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > > > Now that

Re: more -current testers

2002-02-20 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Michael Lucas wrote: > > I understand that we're getting to that stage where we need more > -current testers. > > We all agree that the optimal thing would be to have hordes of very > sophisticated users who can debug problems on their own and submit > patches to fix all their issues. I would g

Re: more -current testers

2002-02-20 Thread Tom Fischer
Hello, These proposed articles can only help. I've been following this list for a few years, I'm ready to contribute in my own small way :-) tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Lucas wrote: > I understand that we're getting to that stage where we need more > -current testers. > > We all agree that