Re: UDMA interfering with install

2001-06-11 Thread Jonathan Smith
That's good enough. :) Thanks Maybe _that_ will keep that ata code from over-riding the bios to disable dma (or maybe the bios just wasn't doing it's job right ;) j. -- When you get the choice to sit it out or dance, I hope you dance -- I Hope You Dance, Lee Ann Womack Jon C.: [

Re: UDMA interfering with install

2001-06-11 Thread John Hay
> > Unfortunately, the UDMA chipset on my ASUS P5A doesn't work well with > Western Vegetable drives So, I need to forcibly sysctl it into pio > mode. Is there *any* way to do this from sysinstall on the > 5.0-200105250-CURRENT (or later snap on current.freebsd.org) floppy > bootup? Well I

Re: HEADS UP: locale names reorganization

2001-06-11 Thread Joerg Wunsch
As Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > I.e. theoretically right now we can reduce locale names to two > components (language and territory) since we have in -current (but > not in -stable) nl_langinfo(CODESET), but not to one component > (language) since there is no standard function to get territory. I

Re: msdosfs can't mount Extended partition. Any ideas?

2001-06-11 Thread Bruce Evans
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > I just found that msdosfs can't mount legal Extended partition because > required info is few blocks later in that case, not immediately as for > Primary partition. Is it known problem, or I am first who notice > that? Does anybody have some fix for

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Motoyuki Konno
Dima Dorfman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (The first URL still exists because the contents of the web site is > never actually wiped; normally, it's just installed over.) This > breaks *a lot* of links. Not only within the web site, but external > links as well. This is, quite franky, unaccepta

Re: What's happened to the generation of CTM?

2001-06-11 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2001-Jun-11 21:46:55 -0500, Steve Hocking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I see that cvs-cur stuff hasn't been generated since the beginning of May - cvs-cur _is_ being generated[1], it just not being mirrored on ftp.freebsd.org at present. When I asked Jordan about it after his "ftp.freebsd.org

UDMA interfering with install

2001-06-11 Thread Jonathan Smith
Unfortunately, the UDMA chipset on my ASUS P5A doesn't work well with Western Vegetable drives So, I need to forcibly sysctl it into pio mode. Is there *any* way to do this from sysinstall on the 5.0-200105250-CURRENT (or later snap on current.freebsd.org) floppy bootup? Thanks j. -

What's happened to the generation of CTM?

2001-06-11 Thread Steve Hocking
I see that cvs-cur stuff hasn't been generated since the beginning of May - are there any planes to restart it? It was convenient having a local copy of the CVS repository on disk. Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of PGS Tensor. "We've heard that a million mon

RE: PPP modem dial is completely broken

2001-06-11 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 11-Jun-2001 Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > With new PPP I can't dial to my provider anymore. Two variants: > > 1) PPP says "Clearing choked output queue" and connection stuck forever > with carrier on. Nothing else happens. > > 2) PPP says "Too many IPCP NAKs sent - abandoning negotiation"

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Motoyuki Konno
"Andrey A. Chernov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 16:33:06 -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > > > > I did the repo copy based on the information I had.. ie: you told me that > > this had all been discussed and I was left with the distinct impression > > I say there that names cha

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Dima Dorfman
I'm picking a random message out of the thread to reply to, and as much as I hate contributing to a flame-war, this issue has not yet been mentioned. All the bickering about this not being discussed aside, fixing the relnotes isn't going to be the end of the story: the web site is broken. Well,

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 16:33:06 -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > > I did the repo copy based on the information I had.. ie: you told me that > this had all been discussed and I was left with the distinct impression I say there that names change was discussed in i18n > that this was all settled. If

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Peter Wemm
"Andrey A. Chernov" wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:45:23 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > PDT". This was, er, let's see, about *two hours* later?!? > >=20 > > No wonder no one objected...I bet you were already finished before most= > =20 > > people read your heads-up message! Did you reali

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for/usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 1:18 AM +0400 6/12/01, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: >I understand now. That info you can provide from the beginning >to minimize messages exchange. I am open to discuss how to fix it. I think it is probably best to let Bruce Mah figure out why it has broken, and let him provide the best "immediate

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Bruce A. Mah
I'm going to respond to exactly one line of your email: > Fix RELNOTESng affected pathes to new scheme without MFCing This is the solution I am favoring, pending some discussion with nik. Please let me deal with it. Thanks. I am deliberately *not* responding to the remainder of this mess

msdosfs can't mount Extended partition. Any ideas?

2001-06-11 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
I just found that msdosfs can't mount legal Extended partition because required info is few blocks later in that case, not immediately as for Primary partition. Is it known problem, or I am first who notice that? Does anybody have some fix for that? -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Un

PPP modem dial is completely broken

2001-06-11 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
With new PPP I can't dial to my provider anymore. Two variants: 1) PPP says "Clearing choked output queue" and connection stuck forever with carrier on. Nothing else happens. 2) PPP says "Too many IPCP NAKs sent - abandoning negotiation" and drop carrier forever without further redialing. About

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 13:35:39 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > RELNOTESng depends on part of the doc/ tree. Note that doc/ is not I understand now. That info you can provide from the beginning to minimize messages exchange. I am open to discuss how to fix it. My suggestions are: MFC R

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Bruce A. Mah
If memory serves me right, "Andrey A. Chernov" wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:42:27 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > >=20 > > > Immediate MFC is against our policy, isn't?=3D20 > >=20 > > So is immediate breakage. > > Yes, but fixed. It's still broken. > It seems that people forget that eve

Re: swap_pager / SCB time outs?

2001-06-11 Thread Justin T. Gibbs
> >Just upgraded my server to newest kernel, did a 'make -j16 buildworld' and >an installworld with no problems, and then started building newest kde ... >woke up to this all over my screen ... The aic7xxx driver is seeing repeated timeouts but everytime it goes to check on a transaction, the tra

swap_pager / SCB time outs?

2001-06-11 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Just upgraded my server to newest kernel, did a 'make -j16 buildworld' and an installworld with no problems, and then started building newest kde ... woke up to this all over my screen ... console was locked, ctl-alt-esc made no difference, had to cold-boot to get the system back up again ... J

Re: HEADS UP: locale names reorganization

2001-06-11 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 23:34:25 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > All Unices have problem with it since it is standard relaxation provided > historycally. Recent standartization efforts attempts to compensate such > bad practice, f.e. nl_langinfo(CODESET) allows you to get codeset now, but > not

Re: HEADS UP: locale names reorganization

2001-06-11 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 21:20:16 +0200, Joerg Wunsch wrote: > > locale in each program which tries to deal with it directly, since > > suppose that program have the same default assumption (from where?) > > for missing information. > > Sorry, i can't follow you. Which program is trying to guess

Re: HEADS UP: locale names reorganization

2001-06-11 Thread Joerg Wunsch
As Andrey A. Chernov wrote: >> Thanks. I wish there would also be `shortcut names', any other >> system i've been working with for example provides a locale named >> `de_DE' so you don't have to type `de_DE.ISO8859-1' all day. >> FreeBSD is the only (known to me) exception. (Before anybody's >>

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:42:27 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > > Immediate MFC is against our policy, isn't?=20 > > So is immediate breakage. Yes, but fixed. It seems that people forget that every big change means some period to settle down. > RELNOTESng is broken for RELENG_4. I would hav

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Bruce A. Mah
If memory serves me right, "Andrey A. Chernov" wrote: > > There would have been less confusion if your heads-up had actually been= > =20 > > sent with enough advance warning that people would have actually *read*= > =20 > > it. > > I agree, but just imagine that I have assumption that Peter alre

Re: ** HEADS UP **: -nostdinc -Wfoo ==> -DNO_WERROR is temporarily the default for `buildworld'

2001-06-11 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:26:28PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: [...] > While this is definitely a problem in fts.h, which is fixed with the > attached patch, it is unclear why this warning is hidden after the > -nostdinc. > For those interested, here's the missing patch. -- Ruslan Ermilov

** HEADS UP **: -nostdinc -Wfoo ==> -DNO_WERROR is temporarily the default for `buildworld'

2001-06-11 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
Hi! -DNO_WERROR (which effectively disables the -Werror) is temporarily the default for `buildworld' because restored -nostdinc bit affects the gcc(1) warning produced for /usr/include headers. (See Makefile.inc1,v 1.203.) For example, if run with -nostdinc, bin/chmod bombs with the following:

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 21:19:53 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > Since RELNOTES branched I left to RELNOTES people to decide if they > want to follow new names policy or not. I mean, for -stable. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ PGP signature

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:45:23 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > PDT". This was, er, let's see, about *two hours* later?!? > > No wonder no one objected...I bet you were already finished before most > people read your heads-up message! Did you realistically think that a > two-hour advance notice

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Bruce A. Mah
If memory serves me right, "Andrey A. Chernov" wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 00:51:32 +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote: > > > > o tell Nik about the change. > > > >Nik is responsible for doc/ tree. > > > > o discussion about "when" we do repo-copy. > > > >To minimize the side effect of

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 00:51:32 +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote: > > o tell Nik about the change. > >Nik is responsible for doc/ tree. > > o discussion about "when" we do repo-copy. > >To minimize the side effect of the change, prior announcement >(at least, to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) a

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Motoyuki Konno
"Andrey A. Chernov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 22:37:12 +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote: > > > 1) Lengthy discussion already happens in -i18n > > > 2) Repo-copy was done by Peter. > > > > We discussed in -i18n ML, but you said NOTHING about doc/ tree. > > Renaming is a tech

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 22:37:12 +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote: > > Please take care of 4-stable system. For that reason currently I don't touch information about i18n names in localization chapter - a patch needed there notifying that names are different for FreeBSD 5.x - I plan to produce it lat

FreeBSD 4.1

2001-06-11 Thread Djordan60932429
Will you please update me with any changes to the above software. Regards David Jordan

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 17:50:43 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 22:37:12 +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote: > > > 1) Lengthy discussion already happens in -i18n > > > 2) Repo-copy was done by Peter. > > > > We discussed in -i18n ML, but you said NOTHING about doc/ tree. > >

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 22:37:12 +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote: > > 1) Lengthy discussion already happens in -i18n > > 2) Repo-copy was done by Peter. > > We discussed in -i18n ML, but you said NOTHING about doc/ tree. Renaming is a technical question not related to doc. Having both old and new na

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Motoyuki Konno
"Andrey A. Chernov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While I appreciate the sentiment behind your recent commits to doc/, the > > last time we did a rename like this there was a lengthy discussion prior to > > the changes, and we did them by repo-copy. > > 1) Lengthy discussion already happens i

TI-1225 and -current OLDCARD problem

2001-06-11 Thread John Hay
I have tried the new OLDCARD code in -current on a desktop with an Orinoco/ Lucent PCI Cardbus bridge (TI PCI-1225) and a Lucent 802.11 card. I found that the kernel would hang almost at the end of the boot process with the last message "pccard: card inserted, slot 1". But those cards only have sl

Re: HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 13:04:42 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > While I appreciate the sentiment behind your recent commits to doc/, the > last time we did a rename like this there was a lengthy discussion prior to > the changes, and we did them by repo-copy. 1) Lengthy discussion already happe

HEADS UP: doc/ tree frozen (was Re: HEADS UP for /usr/src/release/doc & /usr/doc)

2001-06-11 Thread Nik Clayton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 11 June 2001 3:07 am, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 03:56:50 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > Please don't commit anything in the areas of subj. until I finish > > rename to new locale names there. > > Done. Feel fre

Re: HEADS UP: locale names reorganization

2001-06-11 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 08:25:25 +0200, Joerg Wunsch wrote: > As Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > > > And, please also post a list of old vs. new names. Not all of us > > > follow the i18n list. > > > > *.ASCII -> *.US-ASCII > > *.ISO_* -> *.ISO* > > ja_JP.EUC -> ja_JP.eucJP > > ko_KR.EUC -> ko_KR.