Re: Please consider some cosmetic changes in boot messages

2000-09-08 Thread John Toon
Sheldon Hearn wrote: > I have a plan to revamp the way that the startup process's output is > presented and stored for later viewing. I need to chat to some folks > first about the best way to do this, first. Be patient, and look > forward to something interesting in 5.0-RELEASE. :-) > > Ciao,

Re: more on: Vmware (1.x) port broken in -current

2000-09-08 Thread Julian Elischer
Julian Elischer wrote: > > Just a warning, that the current vmware 1.x port doesn;t compile > under -current. > I'm looking at it at the moment (as I only have a licence for 1.x) > responding to myself: the linux include files that have moved to /sys/compat/linux need to be changed in a couple

Vmware (1.x) port broken in -current

2000-09-08 Thread Julian Elischer
Just a warning, that the current vmware 1.x port doesn;t compile under -current. I'm looking at it at the moment (as I only have a licence for 1.x) julian -- __--_|\ Julian Elischer / \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( OZ) World tour 2000 ---> X_.---._/ presently in: Perth

Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d

2000-09-08 Thread Neil Blakey-Milner
On Sat 2000-09-09 (11:25), Matthew Thyer wrote: > Don Lewis wrote: > > > > On Sep 9, 12:05am, Matthew Thyer wrote: > > } Subject: Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d > > } Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > > > } > I'd prefer a dependency based system. (cf. Eivind Eklund's newrc, at > > } > http:/

Re: Dirty buffers on reboot..

2000-09-08 Thread Tor . Egge
> Ok, an update on the dirty buffers on reboot: > > If you use the reboot command, you will get dirty buffers. If you use > 'shutdown -r now' instead, you won't get dirty buffers. Thus, as a workaround > for now, use the shutdown command to reboot your box until we can track this > down. I sug

Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d

2000-09-08 Thread Matthew Thyer
Don Lewis wrote: > > On Sep 9, 12:05am, Matthew Thyer wrote: > } Subject: Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d > } Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > } > I'd prefer a dependency based system. (cf. Eivind Eklund's newrc, at > } > http://people.FreeBSD.org/~eivind/newrc.tar.gz) > > How does this com

Re: SMPng CPU states

2000-09-08 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 8 September 2000 at 14:17:58 -0300, Brandon Hume wrote: > I've built world and kernel yesterday, and was delighted to see the AIC7xxx > problems had gone away. I actually got tripped up by having Linux emulation > enabled and forgetting to remove old modules, but that was fixed quick.

Re: New ATA tagged queuing patch available

2000-09-08 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 8 September 2000 at 13:48:37 -0500, Chris Dillon wrote: > On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: > >> If I dont get any serious problem reports I'll commit this >> shortly, making FreeBSD the first OS that has tagged Queuing >> support for ATA drives :) > > Wow, even before Windows?

Re: the ifp to a removed pcmcia ethernet card is left in struct ip_moptions and struct ifmultiaddr

2000-09-08 Thread Brian Somers
> Seigo Tanimura wrote: > > > > I have been suffering from this problem for almost 2 months. When I > > remove a pcmcia ethernet card from my laptop PC, routed(8) announces > > updated routing information by multicast, leading to a kernel > > panic. > > Ejecting an interface configured up will d

Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d

2000-09-08 Thread Jacques A. Vidrine
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 04:47:15PM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > Note the excessive use of "perl -i -pe 's/foo/bar/'" for in-place > substitution. I've asked on at least two occasions for a simple, > easy-to-use, thing to do it without doing a two-liner that copies to > another file, and then

mouse works!!

2000-09-08 Thread The Hermit Hacker
serial mouse works with currrent sources ... thanks guys Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: [EMAIL PROTECTED] secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTE

Re: microuptime() went backwards

2000-09-08 Thread Siobhan Patricia Lynch
On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > > Most definitely an SMPng issue. If you take a SMP machine and compile a UP > and an SMP kernel on it, the SMP kernel will boot fine, whereas the UP kernel > will generate these warnings. > John, not quite, I have an SMP box that I got these

Re: microuptime() went backwards

2000-09-08 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
Could all this be in any way related to the statclock not working on certain systems (like my Dell Inspiron)?? Also, could the "rtc" device as listed in systat -vm not being there (I'm assuming this is the statclock) be causing scheduling anomalies? I ask because I am trying to get gaim (multi-thr

Re: microuptime() went backwards

2000-09-08 Thread Mike Smith
> > I have collected all the emails I've received and I have identified > at least two different causes: > > There is a bogus i8254 implementation on certain Athlon Mobos, this > is a non-brainer since they should not use the i8254 but the TSC. s/TSC/ACPI timer/ It might even work on those sys

Re: Installed SMP patch and now mouse doesn't work?

2000-09-08 Thread Doug Rabson
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > > Have nothing else to go on yet ... I updated both the current source code > > and installed the SMP patch from Sept 5th. Everything installed great, > > rebooted and I can work in character mode ... go to X, and the mous

Re: microuptime() went backwards

2000-09-08 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Smith writes: >> > Sep 7 14:35:55 laptop /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (10412.355980 -> >10412, -694583121)y >> > >> > this is bad.. right ? :-) >> >> Well, at any rate it looks very funny. If this is a laptop, try >> building a kernel without apm a

Dirty buffers on reboot..

2000-09-08 Thread John Baldwin
Ok, an update on the dirty buffers on reboot: If you use the reboot command, you will get dirty buffers. If you use 'shutdown -r now' instead, you won't get dirty buffers. Thus, as a workaround for now, use the shutdown command to reboot your box until we can track this down. -- John Baldwin

Re: world broken

2000-09-08 Thread Mike Smith
> > looks like the boot loader is killing -current. I have a patch, but > it just cuts all the offending references. > > Comments? rebuild/reinstall libstand. Sorry; should have HEADS-UPped that one. > Warner > > cc -nostdlib -static -Ttext 0x0 -o loader.sym >/usr/obj/home/imp/FreeBSD/src/

Re: microuptime() went backwards

2000-09-08 Thread Mike Smith
> > Sep 7 14:35:55 laptop /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (10412.355980 -> >10412, -694583121)y > > > > this is bad.. right ? :-) > > Well, at any rate it looks very funny. If this is a laptop, try > building a kernel without apm and see if that helps. It only helps "hide" the problem.

Re: New ATA tagged queuing patch available

2000-09-08 Thread Chris Dillon
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: > If I dont get any serious problem reports I'll commit this > shortly, making FreeBSD the first OS that has tagged Queuing > support for ATA drives :) Wow, even before Windows? :-) -- Chris Dillon - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD: The

Re: SMPng CPU states

2000-09-08 Thread John Baldwin
Brandon Hume wrote: > I've built world and kernel yesterday, and was delighted to see the AIC7xxx > problems had gone away. I actually got tripped up by having Linux emulation > enabled and forgetting to remove old modules, but that was fixed quick. > > All-in-all, I'm not having a rough time at

Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d

2000-09-08 Thread Neil Blakey-Milner
On Fri 2000-09-08 (11:12), Don Lewis wrote: > On Sep 9, 12:05am, Matthew Thyer wrote: > } Subject: Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d > } Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > } > I'd prefer a dependency based system. (cf. Eivind Eklund's newrc, at > } > http://people.FreeBSD.org/~eivind/newrc.tar.gz

Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d

2000-09-08 Thread Don Lewis
On Sep 9, 12:05am, Matthew Thyer wrote: } Subject: Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d } Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: } > I'd prefer a dependency based system. (cf. Eivind Eklund's newrc, at } > http://people.FreeBSD.org/~eivind/newrc.tar.gz) How does this compare with what NetBSD implemented?

SMPng CPU states

2000-09-08 Thread Brandon Hume
I've built world and kernel yesterday, and was delighted to see the AIC7xxx problems had gone away. I actually got tripped up by having Linux emulation enabled and forgetting to remove old modules, but that was fixed quick. All-in-all, I'm not having a rough time at all with the new code. My ma

Re: netscape

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 08-Sep-00 Bruce Burden wrote: >since the native netscape doesn't bother to read any library path >but the "standard" one, which of course points to ELF libraries, >and not a.out ones... You're supposed to use ldconfig -aout for that.. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engi

Re: netscape

2000-09-08 Thread Bruce Burden
> > I have installed netscape4-navigator and I can't launch its. > I've got following message: > > ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXt.so.6.0" > Assuming you have the a.out libraries installed as per the other messages, you probably need to assign the LD_LIBRARY_PATH in

Re: call for testers: init securelevel patch

2000-09-08 Thread Paul Herman
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > > "BE" == Bruce Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > BE> revision 1.9 > BE> date: 1997/06/25 07:31:47; author: joerg; state: Exp; lines: +2 -2 > BE> Don't ever allow lowering the securelevel at all. Allowing it does > BE> nothing good except of o

Re: call for testers: init securelevel patch

2000-09-08 Thread Bruce Evans
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > > "BE" == Bruce Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > BE> revision 1.9 > BE> holes. People maintaining a machine with higher security requirements > BE> need to be on the console anyway, so there's no point in not forcing > BE> them to reboot before

Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d

2000-09-08 Thread Matthew Thyer
Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > On Sat 2000-09-09 (00:05), Matthew Thyer wrote: > > The point is that people are worried about scripts that aren't aware > > of the "start" and "stop" argument trying to start apps again at > > shutdown time. With my scheme, the script wont be executed at shutdown >

Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d

2000-09-08 Thread Neil Blakey-Milner
On Sat 2000-09-09 (00:05), Matthew Thyer wrote: > > > Stop scripts will be a symbolic link to their startup script > > > counterpart (and would simply not be executed if the K* file doesn't > > > exist). Symbolic links make it clear they are the same script. > > > > I don't see the point. > > T

Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d

2000-09-08 Thread Matthew Thyer
Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > On Fri 2000-09-08 (22:53), Matthew Thyer wrote: > > The startup and shutdown functionality would be in the same script > > and the scripts should be named starting with a capital 'S' for > > startup and a capital 'K' for shutdown (I'm also keen on the HPUX > > startm

Re: microuptime() went backwards / SHMSEG

2000-09-08 Thread John Toon
Steve Ames wrote: > > Just upgraded to -CURRENT as of about noon (EST) today. At reboot > I got a lot of these: > > microuptime() went backwards (1.7682417 -> 1.997434) > > I recall reading in -current earlier this week that someone was > looking for victims getting this. What further informati

Re: Please consider some cosmetic changes in boot messages

2000-09-08 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Fri, 08 Sep 2000 23:07:22 +0930, Matthew Thyer wrote: > Anyone else noticed how FreeBSD is inconsistent with the use of words > like "Doing", "setting" and "starting" in the boot messages ? Yes, but I wouldn't worry about it at this stage. I have a plan to revamp the way that the startup p

Re: call for testers: init securelevel patch

2000-09-08 Thread Vivek Khera
> "BE" == Bruce Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: BE> revision 1.9 BE> date: 1997/06/25 07:31:47; author: joerg; state: Exp; lines: +2 -2 BE> Don't ever allow lowering the securelevel at all. Allowing it does BE> nothing good except of opening a can of (potential or real) security BE> hol

Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d

2000-09-08 Thread Matthew Thyer
Replying to my own message. In summary, the main things the scheme I describe gives us are: - control over startup/shutdown order with the numbers - accomodates older scripts (by just not having the K script linked to the S, script things wont be started again at shutdown time). - enou

Please consider some cosmetic changes in boot messages

2000-09-08 Thread Matthew Thyer
Anyone else noticed how FreeBSD is inconsistent with the use of words like "Doing", "setting" and "starting" in the boot messages ? For instance, I think the following fragment of my boot should change from: Additional routing options: tcp extensions=NO TCP keepalive=YES. routing daemons:. Mount

Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d

2000-09-08 Thread Neil Blakey-Milner
On Fri 2000-09-08 (22:53), Matthew Thyer wrote: > I would like to see startup and shutdown scripts exist in a single > directory ("/usr/local/etc/rc.d/" for ports and eventually > "/etc/rc.d" when the system migrates to the same scheme). I don't think we should move away from the 'base' system an

/usr/local/etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d

2000-09-08 Thread Matthew Thyer
[I know this was discussed a couple of months ago but since nothings been committed yet I throw in my 3 month old email that I haven't been able to send due to my stupid ISP with unregistered mail relays] Please read as I have done a fair bit of thinking on this matter as the sysadmin of many co

Re: Oddities with the new binutils

2000-09-08 Thread Matthew Thyer
Repost of old mail now that I've made my ISP register their mail relays (which took three months for them to understand!). I know this is ancient but being in the archives may help someone. It was a kernel problem. I made a new kernel from sources of about 8 hours ago and the problem has dissa

Re: docs on how to upgraded boot loader ...

2000-09-08 Thread The Hermit Hacker
Ah, okay, for some reason I was looking at the 'disklabel -B' stuff, but that never worked :( I've gotten into the habit of doing the whole 'buildkernel/buildworld/etc' procedure, and just hadn['t gotten to the point doing the 'installworld' :( thanks ... On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrot

Re: netscape

2000-09-08 Thread Thomas David Rivers
> > Hi, > I have installed netscape4-navigator and I can't launch its. > I've got following message: > > ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXt.so.6.0" > > What can I do? > Piotr Wozniak You need to install the XFree86 a.out library package. It's in the packages directory from the 4

Re: CFR: acpi userland manpages

2000-09-08 Thread Nik Clayton
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 12:09:31AM +0900, Mitsuru IWASAKI wrote: > Hi, I've just imported acpi userland tools and writing manpages for > them with contributers in Japan. > Please review them and send any comments (or diffs) for me > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) in terms of English/roff or whatever. > > Th

New ATA tagged queuing patch available

2000-09-08 Thread Soren Schmidt
>From the README: ATA-tagged-queueing-diff-0908: Add support for ATA channels with both a master and a slave, even combos where only on of them supports tagged queuing should work now. Also only switch on tagged queuing on IBM DPTA & DTLA series drives, the older DJNA has firmware prob

Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-08 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Fri, 08 Sep 2000 00:01:54 MST, John Baldwin wrote: > > 3) Linux emuation is panics the machine in linux_open on > >a normal boot. > > Hate to ask, but are you sure it is loading the right module? With > the kernel.ko change, modules don't live in the same place anymore, > and I

Re: HEADS UP: linux module breaks current

2000-09-08 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 16:04:11 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > Just a warning to anyone wanting to try out SMPng -- make sure that you > hdon't have ``linux_enable="YES"'' in /etc/rc.conf. > > I got a kernel trap when /etc/rc tried to load the linux module. I > haven't had time to get a panic and

RE: netscape

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 08-Sep-00 Piotr WoŸniak wrote: > Hi, > I have installed netscape4-navigator and I can't launch its. > I've got following message: > > ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXt.so.6.0" You are using the FreeBSD a.out version of Netscape. For this to work you need the 2.2/3.x compat distr

Re: microuptime() went backwards

2000-09-08 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
If I build the kernel without apm, then there is no clock because the statclock is broken on this computer. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726

netscape

2000-09-08 Thread Piotr WoŸniak
Hi, I have installed netscape4-navigator and I can't launch its. I've got following message: ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXt.so.6.0" What can I do? Piotr Wozniak To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-08 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Fri, 08 Sep 2000 00:36:12 CST, Warner Losh wrote: > 6) Switching virtual termintals from the X server to the > console is busted. This does not appear to be a problem here, with SMPng and XFree86-3.3.6. > 7) SSH to a machine on my local network is dog slow > s

Re: 'interrupt-level buffer overflows' for sio device?

2000-09-08 Thread Bruce Evans
On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > Also, this is interrupt level overflows. We can run the fast > interrupts fast enough to harvest characters from the hardware. > What's not happening is that sio's bottom half isn't being run fast > enough so the interrupt level buffers overflow. Not sur