Re: kern/8324

2000-03-17 Thread Bruce Evans
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Archie Cobbs wrote: > This bug has been around since at least 2.2.6 and is still present > in RELENG_3, RELENG_4, and -current. > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=8324 > > Is anyone planning to tackle it? What would be required to fix it? > (it's not clear (to

Re: port/XFree86-4 make install fail.

2000-03-17 Thread Idea Receiver
tried. same problem. what else I can do? btw, is there any different between binary version and make from port? On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Jean-Marc Zucconi wrote: > > Idea Receiver writes: > > > ok.. I just tried to reinstall the whole system with the SNAP from 8/Feb > > and cvs up to the

Re: gcc -Os optimisation broken (RELENG_4)

2000-03-17 Thread Thomas Köllmann
R Joseph Wright wrote/schrieb (Friday, March 17, 2000): | > In contrast, I've been using -Os -march=pentium during the last three | > months for buildworld and the kernel. Never had problems whatsoever. | | Perhaps this is a bit off topic, but can the pentium optimisations be used | for AMD K6 p

Re: linux sysctl knobs (was Re: RealPlayer 7)

2000-03-17 Thread Steve Price
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Doug Barton wrote: # > I've noticed that the Linux version reports the OS as "Linux 2.0.36" or # > something like that. Is there anything special that will make the Linux # > version of Netscape report the OS correctly? Maybe it should be doing # > `uname -srm` or something

Re: Streamlining FreeBSD Installations

2000-03-17 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Brian Dean wrote: > > Forrest Aldrich wrote: > > Someone mentioned that sysinstall could be scripted... is this the way to > > go, then? > > I use scripted sysinstalls here. It's really easy, however, you still > have to interact with a few dialogs, namely: > > 1) of course, you have t

Re: 3 -> 4 when /usr is a vinum volume?

2000-03-17 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Palle Girgensohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000317 19:03] wrote: > Hi! > > I'm having troubles updating a FreeBSD 3-stable system to current, since it has /usr as a vinum volume. I've just updated about a dozen machines without any problems, but none of them uses vinum. > > Following the instructi

Re: RealPlayer 7

2000-03-17 Thread Chris Costello
On Friday, March 17, 2000, Donn Miller wrote: > I've noticed that the Linux version reports the OS as "Linux 2.0.36" or > something like that. Is there anything special that will make the Linux > version of Netscape report the OS correctly? Maybe it should be doing > `uname -srm` or something li

Re: RealPlayer 7

2000-03-17 Thread Doug Barton
Donn Miller wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > You can't use a foreign plugin with a native freebsd > > netscape..unfortunately there aren't many plugins available in native > > format - this is a good reason to use the linux version. > > I've noticed that the Linux vers

3 -> 4 when /usr is a vinum volume?

2000-03-17 Thread Palle Girgensohn
Hi! I'm having troubles updating a FreeBSD 3-stable system to current, since it has /usr as a vinum volume. I've just updated about a dozen machines without any problems, but none of them uses vinum. Following the instructions in UPDATING, when rebooting to single user mode, vinum wouldn't

Re: kern/8324

2000-03-17 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Archie Cobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000317 17:55] wrote: > This bug has been around since at least 2.2.6 and is still present > in RELENG_3, RELENG_4, and -current. > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=8324 > > Is anyone planning to tackle it? What would be required to fix it? > (it'

kern/8324

2000-03-17 Thread Archie Cobbs
This bug has been around since at least 2.2.6 and is still present in RELENG_3, RELENG_4, and -current. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=8324 Is anyone planning to tackle it? What would be required to fix it? (it's not clear (to me anyway) from Bruce's description how hard this is to

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-17 Thread Oliver Fromme
Matt Heckaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in list.freebsd-current: > Speaking of ISOs, where is the 4.0-RELEASE ISO, It doesn't exist yet. If I understood Jordan correctly, he wants to wait a bit after the release and let the dust settle a bit before creating the CD-ROM set for Walnut Creek. How

ICMP socket weirdness

2000-03-17 Thread Archie Cobbs
Can someone explain the weird behavior I'm seeing from the program below?? When the program is run, if you ping the IP address from the local machine, it sees packets. However, if you ping it from a remote machine, it doesn't see packets. This is on a 3.4-REL machine.. it also happens on a 4.0-

Re: RealPlayer 7

2000-03-17 Thread Donn Miller
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > You can't use a foreign plugin with a native freebsd > netscape..unfortunately there aren't many plugins available in native > format - this is a good reason to use the linux version. I've noticed that the Linux version reports the OS as "Linux 2.0.36"

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-17 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 11:42:43AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > No it doesn't. > > Download the binary installation files onto another machine, and burn a CD > with them (you must have a mechanism to burn a CD if you were intending to > burn an ISO image of one). Then use this CD as the media t

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Will Andrews wrote: > Exactly. Only thing is, an FTP install requires a usable internet > connection on intended box, which is not always available. ;-) No it doesn't. Download the binary installation files onto another machine, and burn a CD with them (you must have a mech

Re: RealPlayer 7

2000-03-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Ted Sikora wrote: > Most of the plugins give the 'bad magic' error. It works perfectly under > the Linux-Netscape version however. That's why I run both in FreeBSD. > With the Linux version I get all plugins like flash4 and so on. You can't use a foreign plugin with a nativ

patches for test / review

2000-03-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
I have two patches up for test at http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc I'm looking for reviews and tests, in particular vinum testing would be nice since Grog is quasi-offline at the moment. Poul-Henning 20000317 BWRITE-STRATEGY.patch This patch is machine generated except for the ccd.

Re: Streamlining FreeBSD Installations

2000-03-17 Thread Forrest Aldrich
This wouldn't work in our situation, where we are needing to modify data... so if there were a power outage, imagine the hassle. Good idea, though. Most of our systems have 64 - 128mb of ram. They are doing distributed status monitoring and secondary DNS. So, there would be a bit of changes

Re: Streamlining FreeBSD Installations

2000-03-17 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Jonathan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000317 08:48] wrote: > > > > On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Forrest Aldrich wrote: > > > Another issue here, at least in our application of it, is about adding > > users and setting passwords.With well over 100 machines, we want to > > also have installed user

Re: Streamlining FreeBSD Installations

2000-03-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Forrest Aldrich wrote: > I was also curious about what people do to keep a fleet of FreeBSD > machines up-to-date with CVSup and buildworld. I can't imagine > manually going to more than 100 machines and doing the same thing > manually... how time consuming. Have a master c

Re: RealPlayer 7

2000-03-17 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > You can't use a foreign plugin with a native freebsd > netscape..unfortunately there aren't many plugins available in native > format - this is a good reason to use the linux version. Or not (depending on your opinion regarding said plugins). -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Si

Re: Streamlining FreeBSD Installations

2000-03-17 Thread Andrew Gordon
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Forrest Aldrich wrote: > I was also curious about what people do to keep a fleet of FreeBSD machines > up-to-date with CVSup and buildworld. I can't imagine manually going to > more than 100 machines and doing the same thing manually... how time consuming. > > To summariz

Re: gcc -Os optimisation broken (RELENG_4)

2000-03-17 Thread Maxim Sobolev
"Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > > > I've just upgraded my production server to the 4.0-RELEASE and found that > > squid23 when compiled with -Os option dying with signal 11 on each attempt to > > load page. When I recompiled it with -O fault disappeared. After some digging >

Re: possible simple install-info fix

2000-03-17 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Doug Barton wrote: > > Ok, sounds like you guys have it under control. If the fix was this > "easy," I really wish that someone had pushed for its inclusion in > 4.0-Release. This is going to be a big problem for people, and there are > enough hurdles into 4.0 already. :-/ There was some

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-17 Thread Jeffrey J. Mountin
At 10:12 AM 3/17/00 -0500, Will Andrews wrote: >On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 10:00:44AM -0500, Kelly Yancey wrote: > > This is all beginning to smell a lot like a FTP install. > >Exactly. Only thing is, an FTP install requires a usable internet >connection on intended box, which is not always availab

Re: RealPlayer 7

2000-03-17 Thread Charles Anderson
I had many problems trying to get some of the linux emulation progrmas to run when I had a LD_LIBRARY_PATH set. The problem was that the linux executable was looking for libraries on the path list and finding a FreeBSD library and puking because it had a bad magic number. I just made sure my ldc

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-17 Thread Jeffrey J. Mountin
At 09:46 AM 3/17/00 -0500, Will Andrews wrote: >On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 11:59:29AM -0600, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > > However, if you consider the size of the file and the possibility of > > corruption, then it should be archived with gzip and forget the > compression > > (gzip -1). Now it can

Re: gcc -Os optimisation broken (RELENG_4)

2000-03-17 Thread R Joseph Wright
> > In contrast, I've been using -Os -march=pentium during the last three > months for buildworld and the kernel. Never had problems whatsoever. Perhaps this is a bit off topic, but can the pentium optimisations be used for AMD K6 processors? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wi

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:46 AM -0500 2000/3/17, Will Andrews wrote: > I tend to agree with this. 650MB is way too much - perhaps the images could > be broken up according to the portion of the system (i.e., bin, sbin, > usr.bin, usr.sbin, etc, et cetera). I think the entire point of the ISO images is to

Re: RealPlayer 7

2000-03-17 Thread Ted Sikora
Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Ted Sikora wrote: > > > Most of the plugins give the 'bad magic' error. It works perfectly under > > the Linux-Netscape version however. That's why I run both in FreeBSD. > > With the Linux version I get all plugins like flash4 and so on. > > You ca

Re: Streamlining FreeBSD Installations

2000-03-17 Thread Thomas Stromberg
As far as keeping them "up to date", this is what we do: - Have a local cvsup-mirror server - All FreeBSD workstations and servers cvsup (just ports) off of it nightly. - Our central build server (which doubles as an insanely overpowered SMP dns server), builds -STABLE, and all kernels nightly

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-17 Thread John LoVerso
> Had > the file been split and a checksum computed for each piece, I could have > grabbed only the affected portion of the ISO. This is screaming for an FTP server mod similar to the wuftpd code that will automatically run tar|gzip. That is, given a file "foo", serve "foo.aa" to be the first (s

Re: gcc -Os optimisation broken (RELENG_4)

2000-03-17 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > > Well... where is "name" being set? That would help. > > It is not clear what do you mean, please explain. "name" is the name of the variable that is passed as NULL when compiled with -Os. In the code trace you posted, we do not see any reference to this variable up to

Soundcard support, or something

2000-03-17 Thread BEWARE OF DOGS
Moin moin, I guess that -current is now -stable, and so is -stable, but the tests I made were on -current before it became -release, as well as on -stable before it was usurped by -devel, or something, my brane hertz, so I'm sending this to both -current and -stable, even though I bet both lists

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2000-03-17 Thread dryice liu
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Re: Streamlining FreeBSD Installations

2000-03-17 Thread Jonathan Smith
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Forrest Aldrich wrote: > Another issue here, at least in our application of it, is about adding > users and setting passwords.With well over 100 machines, we want to > also have installed user accounts for our engineers. Again, nightmareish > to consider doing man

Re: gcc -Os optimisation broken (RELENG_4)

2000-03-17 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > I've just upgraded my production server to the 4.0-RELEASE and found that > squid23 when compiled with -Os option dying with signal 11 on each attempt to > load page. When I recompiled it with -O fault disappeared. After some digging > into the sources with gdb I found th

Re: port/XFree86-4 make install fail.

2000-03-17 Thread Idea Receiver
On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Matthew Thyer wrote: > I had no problem. > > I tend to uninstall anything that uses X, build & install new X and > then build new apps. It doesnt take that long. This is all using > ports with CFLAG= -O -pipe ok.. I just tried to reinstall the whole system with the SNAP

Re: RealPlayer 7

2000-03-17 Thread Ted Sikora
"Jacques A . Vidrine" wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 12:42:33AM -0500, Donn Miller wrote: > > I think I found the problem -- it had "disable custom sampling rates" > > checked in the preferences section. I unchecked that, and at least > > the audio is working better. I still have to try the

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-17 Thread Will Andrews
On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 10:00:44AM -0500, Kelly Yancey wrote: > This is all beginning to smell a lot like a FTP install. Exactly. Only thing is, an FTP install requires a usable internet connection on intended box, which is not always available. ;-) -- Will Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GCS/E/S

Re: Streamlining FreeBSD Installations

2000-03-17 Thread Forrest Aldrich
Another issue here, at least in our application of it, is about adding users and setting passwords.With well over 100 machines, we want to also have installed user accounts for our engineers. Again, nightmareish to consider doing manually. Such a script used at startup could contain also

Re: Streamlining FreeBSD Installations

2000-03-17 Thread Forrest Aldrich
Yes, making this process easier with Sysinstall would be a Good Thing(tm). Especially I see the need here due to the widespread use of FreeBSD in enterprise environments. This topic will certainly come up again and again. What I would like to see is a customized boot disk that, after loading

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-17 Thread Kelly Yancey
> > I tend to agree with this. 650MB is way too much - perhaps the images could > be broken up according to the portion of the system (i.e., bin, sbin, > usr.bin, usr.sbin, etc, et cetera). > This is all beginning to smell a lot like a FTP install. Kelly -- Kelly Yancey - [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: RealPlayer 7

2000-03-17 Thread Jacques A . Vidrine
On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 12:42:33AM -0500, Donn Miller wrote: > I think I found the problem -- it had "disable custom sampling rates" > checked in the preferences section. I unchecked that, and at least > the audio is working better. I still have to try the video, > though... Maybe there's a con

Re: Streamlining FreeBSD Installations

2000-03-17 Thread Brian Dean
Forrest Aldrich wrote: > Someone mentioned that sysinstall could be scripted... is this the way to > go, then? I use scripted sysinstalls here. It's really easy, however, you still have to interact with a few dialogs, namely: 1) of course, you have to specify your config file from

Re: RealPlayer 7

2000-03-17 Thread Ted Sikora
Ted Sikora wrote: > > Donn Miller wrote: > > > > Anyone get this beast to work on -current? The audio works, but the video > > doesn't work at all. I have COMPAT_LINUX in my kernel, and RealPlayer 5.0 > > works pretty well. > > > > $ printenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH > > >/usr/local/qt/lib:/usr/local/l

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-17 Thread Will Andrews
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 11:59:29AM -0600, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > However, if you consider the size of the file and the possibility of > corruption, then it should be archived with gzip and forget the compression > (gzip -1). Now it can be checked for errors. MD5 checksums are more compact

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-17 Thread Alan Clegg
Out of the ether, James FitzGibbon spewed forth the following bits: > It might be nice if there were a utility that could pull the ISO in small > slices just like any distribution and then put it back together. For that > matter, couldn't the ISO image be made into a distribution that sysinstall

Re: Streamlining FreeBSD Installations

2000-03-17 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 07:51:28AM -0500, Forrest Aldrich wrote: > Someone mentioned that sysinstall could be scripted... is this the way > to go, then? It's one way to go, although it's not as good as Solaris' JumpStart (although that has faults of it's own...). For a quick example look in /usr

Re: RealPlayer 7

2000-03-17 Thread Ted Sikora
Donn Miller wrote: > > Anyone get this beast to work on -current? The audio works, but the video > doesn't work at all. I have COMPAT_LINUX in my kernel, and RealPlayer 5.0 > works pretty well. > > $ printenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH > >/usr/local/qt/lib:/usr/local/lib/rvplayer5.0:/usr/local/RealPlaye

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-17 Thread James FitzGibbon
* Jeffrey J. Mountin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [000315 17:35]: > However, if you consider the size of the file and the possibility of > corruption, then it should be archived with gzip and forget the compression > (gzip -1). Now it can be checked for errors. Isn't there a CHECKSUMS.MD5 file in the

Re: Why not gzip iso images?

2000-03-17 Thread Tom Embt
[...] > > Another issue is the size. Many factors determine how quickly one can > > obtain the ISO. It would be nice if it were broken into smaller > > volumes. About 10-20 MB each would be good. That way should something > > fail, there less time and bandwidth wasted should one need to sta

Re: port/XFree86-4 make install fail.

2000-03-17 Thread Matthew Thyer
Idea Receiver wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Jean-Marc Zucconi wrote: > > > > Idea Receiver writes: > > > > > "make all" success without any problem. > > > > There was an error but "make all" always complete. > > > > > however, make install fail ;( > > > > What are your CFLAGS in /etc/ma

Re: gcc -Os optimisation broken (RELENG_4)

2000-03-17 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On 16 Mar, Doug Barton wrote: > In the interests of providing another datapoint, I tried my old, boring > P5 machine, and with -Os -march=pentium buildworld bombed trying to > compile cc1plus in the build tools phase. Backing off to -O worked. The > kernel was ok with -Os -march=pentium.

Streamlining FreeBSD Installations

2000-03-17 Thread Forrest Aldrich
There was mentioned that someone was "appointed" (perhaps unwillingly :) to look into this one... who? I was also curious about what people do to keep a fleet of FreeBSD machines up-to-date with CVSup and buildworld. I can't imagine manually going to more than 100 machines and doing the same

Re: gcc -Os optimisation broken (RELENG_4)

2000-03-17 Thread Sascha Schumann
On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 10:09:37PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > Donn Miller wrote: > > > > Doug Barton wrote: > > > > > Hmm... If I have a PII (Actually celeron 300A) or a PIII, which is > > > better, 'pentium' or 'pentiumpro'? I would think the latter, but I've > > > learned not to assum

kernel compile error on PC-98 due to wd driver changes

2000-03-17 Thread Munehiro Matsuda
Hello After reorganisation of wd driver, compiling kernel on PC-98 fails with following error: # cd /usr/src/sys/compile/PC9821AS # make depend . ../../pc98/pc98/atapi.c:119: i386/isa/atapi.h: No such file or directory ../../pc98/pc98/wd.c:94: i386/isa/atapi.h: No such file or directory mkd

Re: possible simple install-info fix

2000-03-17 Thread Doug Barton
Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 02:08:55PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I was looking into fixing the install-info problem, and wondered if the > > > solution is really as easy as it seems: > > > > H