Re: rtld-elf, java + tya

2000-01-21 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, John Polstra wrote: > Really?! Augh. Naturally this comes just hours after I have merged > the latest changes into -stable *sigh*. > > Could you please make sure your src/libexec/rtld-elf is > up-to-date? rtld.c should be at revision 1.41. yes. my src/libexec

Here's what I'm using

2000-01-21 Thread Warner Losh
OK. I said I'd clean this up and send this out. Well, I didn't get as much ceanup done as I'd have liked. The order of hosts is arbitrary and works for me. I'm sure this could be improved, especially to make the order random. Warner #!/bin/sh if [ -z "$1" ]; then hosts=" \ cvs

Re: even more breakage in current

2000-01-21 Thread Bruce Evans
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Jason Evans wrote: > I often do a 'make includes' to be able to iteratively test changes. Once > I'm happy that the changes are sound, there is no way to assure that the > changes didn't cause a bootstrapping problem like this one. `make includes' breaks your test environme

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David O'Brien" writes: : "load" on the mirror. Where "load" is either one of the connection : slots, or actual kernel resource load if I have 20% packet loss and thus : cause a lot of retransmissions to occur. Hmmm. A thought just occurred to me. There's no need

Re: even more breakage in current

2000-01-21 Thread Bruce Evans
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Jason Evans wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 10:11:57AM -0800, Bill Swingle wrote: >... > > cc -DPROF -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc/include >-D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DINET6 -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/locale >-DBROKEN_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/s

Re: cvsup 3.4-release to -current

2000-01-21 Thread Scott Burns
"Matt M." wrote: > Just wondering what potential problems I am facing by going from > 3.4-release to -current. I was told on irc that my chances may not be > well. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message I tried upgrading

Re: problems with mylex raid scsi

2000-01-21 Thread Mike Smith
> I try to install FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT snapshot on > server with have mylex accele raid 250 controler. > FreeBSD installs on it without any problems, but > can't boot from it. I try 2 and 8 GB BIOS mode, > also FreeBSD and BIOS geometry (trick with small > dos partition). Depending of situati

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 08:56:29PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > I guess it means, is the main component trying to be balanced the server > resources or the network resources. I may be wrong, but I think that the > server resources are more likely to be the most important bottleneck, and Not reall

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Wes Peters
Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > My only point is that the first response to a problem isn't to necessarily > > > pull out emacs and start hacking away on code. > > > > Yea, it is easier to do in a regular zone file then to implement the > > network measurement logic into cvsup. > > Yes, it is a rat

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 07:03:51PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > I don't know ... I think it might be a good idea for the cvsup client to > > > make a connection to a cvsup master, get redirected from that master to > > > the actual handler of t

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Chuck Robey
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 07:03:51PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > > I don't know ... I think it might be a good idea for the cvsup client to > > make a connection to a cvsup master, get redirected from that master to > > the actual handler of the connectio

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 07:27:08PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: > Traceroute works fine. Traceroute can be annoying to use as it is much slower. And not all routers respond "properly" to it. > If you knew the history of fadeto.blackened.com, you'd know why ICMPs > are filtered out I really don'

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> > > Hi David, > > > > > > John can implement a ping echo packet protocol for cvsup whose > > > response can have "cool" information on the server. Steven's > > > book on Networking already has the code for doing network latency > > > calculations . It is more like if John has the time to implem

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 07:03:51PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > I don't know ... I think it might be a good idea for the cvsup client to > make a connection to a cvsup master, get redirected from that master to > the actual handler of the connection, and then work. That way, a config > file on the

Re: when is FreeBSD-4.0 up for release ?

2000-01-21 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 07:02:10PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 03:33:19PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > What do you mean? JKH said there would be a Feature Freeze on Jan 15 and > > it happened. What more did JKH need to say on the topic? > > I lost some mail from earl

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Amancio Hasty
> > Hi David, > > > > John can implement a ping echo packet protocol for cvsup whose > > response can have "cool" information on the server. Steven's > > book on Networking already has the code for doing network latency > > calculations . It is more like if John has the time to implement > > such

Re: Creative ViBRA16X Problem (fwd)

2000-01-21 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
I have the same soundcard, and as of right now, the only problem I have with it is that sometimes it will play static instead of the sound I wanted it to play. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Un

Re: when is FreeBSD-4.0 up for release ?

2000-01-21 Thread Chuck Robey
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Will Andrews wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 03:33:19PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > What do you mean? JKH said there would be a Feature Freeze on Jan 15 and > > it happened. What more did JKH need to say on the topic? > > I lost some mail from early this week, but I d

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> Hi David, > > John can implement a ping echo packet protocol for cvsup whose > response can have "cool" information on the server. Steven's > book on Networking already has the code for doing network latency > calculations . It is more like if John has the time to implement > such scheme

Re: Warning: ioctl(... TUNSLMODE ...) to be depricated....

2000-01-21 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Brian Somers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Unless there are objections in the next day or two, I'm going to > deprecate the TUNSLMODE ioctl favour of TUNSIFHEAD. Where TUNSLMODE > prepended a sockaddr to each packet, TUNSIFHEAD will instead prepend a > 4-byte network-byte-order address family.

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Ben Rosengart
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > Possibly, being ping'able should be be a requirement to being a CVSup > mirror. I don't think it makes sense to try to dictate network policy to people who are doing the FreeBSD Project a favor. Anyway, an application-level round-trip time measurement

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Will Andrews
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 03:40:14PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > I have to agree with Amancio. Otherwise how are we to determine if > cvsup8 is worth our time? I personally will not be switching to it until > I can determine it is a better path for me. > > Possibly, being ping'able should be be

Re: when is FreeBSD-4.0 up for release ?

2000-01-21 Thread Will Andrews
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 03:33:19PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > What do you mean? JKH said there would be a Feature Freeze on Jan 15 and > it happened. What more did JKH need to say on the topic? I lost some mail from early this week, but I didn't get anything from Jordan saying the FF was in

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Chuck Robey
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > I have to agree with Amancio. Otherwise how are we to determine if > cvsup8 is worth our time? I personally will not be switching to it until > I can determine it is a better path for me. > > Possibly, being ping'able should be be a requirement to be

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Brooks Davis
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 04:47:42PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > Perhaps an option to CVSup to test a group of servers and render a "rating" > for each, or to choose a "best" one. Then an intelligent human being could > use this information to occasionally change which cvsup server they use. > > Su

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Amancio Hasty
Hi David, John can implement a ping echo packet protocol for cvsup whose response can have "cool" information on the server. Steven's book on Networking already has the code for doing network latency calculations . It is more like if John has the time to implement such scheme -- Amanci

Re: even more breakage in current

2000-01-21 Thread Jason Evans
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 03:47:27PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 02:22:51PM -0800, Jason Evans wrote: > > > > I did a 'make includes' during my testing, so I didn't have this > > problem. > ... > > > > In any case, doing a 'make includes' will get you past this. > > But t

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Amancio Hasty
> > My only point is that the first response to a problem isn't to necessarily > > pull out emacs and start hacking away on code. > > Yea, it is easier to do in a regular zone file then to implement the > network measurement logic into cvsup. Yes, it is a rather cool idea to rotate on the cvs se

Re: even more breakage in current

2000-01-21 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 02:22:51PM -0800, Jason Evans wrote: > > I did a 'make includes' during my testing, so I didn't have this > problem. ... > > In any case, doing a 'make includes' will get you past this. But this is not a very satisfiable bootstrap requirement. We need to keep in mind that

Re: when is FreeBSD-4.0 up for release ?

2000-01-21 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 05:33:53PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: > On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 04:14:47PM -0600, Mohit Aron wrote: > > Hi, > > wasn't the release date set for Jan 15 ? Anyone knows the new > > tentative date ? Thanks, > > That was the Feature Freeze (tm). Jordan hasn't made any "off

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Warner Losh
: > Does it matter? Who cvsup's regulary more than once or twice a day? : > Committers AFAIK do cvs directly. : I "cvs co" from my local copy of the repository, which is kept : up-to-date using cvsup. When I'm making lots of commits, I'll do 10-20 cvsups in a day, but usually it is more like 3-5

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 11:11:17AM -0800, John Polstra wrote: > I have been reminded that a few mirrors (cvsup8 in particular) filter > pings. Don't take ping failures as a certain indication that the > server is down. On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 11:22:33AM -0800, Amancio Hasty wrote: > So have the

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Wes Peters
Steve Kargl wrote: > > Andre Oppermann wrote: > > Jesper Skriver wrote: > > > > > > > > You will risk hitting 2 different server in 2 rapid cvsup run's, where > > > the first may be more up to date than the next, as Jordan wrote earlier > > > in this thread ... > > > > Does it matter? Who cvsup's

Creative ViBRA16X Problem (fwd)

2000-01-21 Thread Jeremy L. Stock
Thought I'd post this to -current also since it gives a little more detail (I hope). I can't believe I'm the only one experiencing this since it's still around when I do a fresh install from a snapshot. Not a huge deal for me since I can use Windows for audio, but I'd rather use FreeBSD again. I'm

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Ben Rosengart
On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Andre Oppermann wrote: > Ah, well, ok. I used it extensively with bind 8.1.2 in an internal > application in a big bank to get approx. load distribution with > Windumb clients (they always take the first record in the list > returned). > > Anyway, if multi CNAME is no good t

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Andre Oppermann
Louis A. Mamakos wrote: > > > > Second, a domain name can at most a single CNAME record associated > > > with it, and other other record types. BIND will (should) barf on a > > > zone file containing the example you listed. > > > > It does not. It will round-robin over the CNAME's. > > If it do

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread John Baldwin
On 21-Jan-00 Andre Oppermann wrote: > Jesper Skriver wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 11:06:40PM +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote: >> > I don't see any appearant reson (short of network connectivity) that >> > one *needs* to get always the *same* server. >> >> This has been discussed regulary .

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Andre Oppermann
Matthew Hunt wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 11:56:11PM +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote: > > > OK, then you should hardwire your cvsup server to cvsup[1-8]. You can > > master cvs so you can master this. > > I do. Thanks for your vote of confidence in my abilities, though. > If you meant "comm

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Andre Oppermann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Second, a domain name can at most a single CNAME record associated > > > with it, and other other record types. BIND will (should) barf on a > > > zone file containing the example you listed. > > > > It does not. It will round-robin over the CNAME's. > > See the

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Louis A. Mamakos
> > Second, a domain name can at most a single CNAME record associated > > with it, and other other record types. BIND will (should) barf on a > > zone file containing the example you listed. > > It does not. It will round-robin over the CNAME's. If it does, than this is a bug in BIND. The DN

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 11:56:11PM +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote: > OK, then you should hardwire your cvsup server to cvsup[1-8]. You can > master cvs so you can master this. I do. Thanks for your vote of confidence in my abilities, though. If you meant "committers use cvs directly or hardwire t

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Andre Oppermann
Matthew Hunt wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 11:39:24PM +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote: > > > Does it matter? Who cvsup's regulary more than once or twice a day? > > Committers AFAIK do cvs directly. > > I "cvs co" from my local copy of the repository, which is kept > up-to-date using cvsup.

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Andre Oppermann
Jesper Skriver wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 11:06:40PM +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote: > > I don't see any appearant reson (short of network connectivity) that > > one *needs* to get always the *same* server. > > This has been discussed regulary ... Must have been some time ago... > You wi

Re: Possible IPv6-related problem

2000-01-21 Thread Jos Backus
Some more information: I can not reproduce the problem with a -current as of yesterday on my home system. I'll re-check my system at work next week and let you know. -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ "Reliability means never _/ _/ _/ having

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread sthaug
> > Second, a domain name can at most a single CNAME record associated > > with it, and other other record types. BIND will (should) barf on a > > zone file containing the example you listed. > > It does not. It will round-robin over the CNAME's. See the documentation for the multiple-cnames op

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Andre Oppermann
Louis A. Mamakos wrote: > > cvsup IN CNAMEcvsup1.freebsd.org. > > cvsup IN CNAMEcvsup2.freebsd.org. > > cvsup IN CNAMEcvsup3.freebsd.org. > > cvsup IN CNAMEcvsup4.freebsd.org. > > cvsup IN CNAMEcvsup5.freebsd.org. > >

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 11:39:24PM +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote: > Does it matter? Who cvsup's regulary more than once or twice a day? > Committers AFAIK do cvs directly. I "cvs co" from my local copy of the repository, which is kept up-to-date using cvsup. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Steve Kargl
Andre Oppermann wrote: > Jesper Skriver wrote: > > > > > You will risk hitting 2 different server in 2 rapid cvsup run's, where > > the first may be more up to date than the next, as Jordan wrote earlier > > in this thread ... > > Does it matter? Who cvsup's regulary more than once or twice a d

Re: when is FreeBSD-4.0 up for release ?

2000-01-21 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mohit Aron writes: : wasn't the release date set for Jan 15 ? Anyone knows the new : tentative date ? Thanks, No. Jan 15 was a feature freeze. Likely first part of Feb for a release, but no date has been widely circulated. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mai

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Andre Oppermann
Brad Knowles wrote: > > At 11:06 PM +0100 2000/1/21, Andre Oppermann wrote: > > > Thats not so easy. What about this: > > > > cvsupIN CNAMEcvsup1.freebsd.org. > > cvsupIN CNAMEcvsup2.freebsd.org. > > cvsupIN CNAMEcvsup3.

Re: when is FreeBSD-4.0 up for release ?

2000-01-21 Thread Will Andrews
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 04:14:47PM -0600, Mohit Aron wrote: > Hi, > wasn't the release date set for Jan 15 ? Anyone knows the new > tentative date ? Thanks, That was the Feature Freeze (tm). Jordan hasn't made any "official" announcements about the Feature Freeze yet, I don't think. Anywa

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:06 PM +0100 2000/1/21, Andre Oppermann wrote: > Thats not so easy. What about this: > > cvsupIN CNAMEcvsup1.freebsd.org. > cvsupIN CNAMEcvsup2.freebsd.org. > cvsupIN CNAMEcvsup3.freebsd.org. > cvsup

Re: even more breakage in current

2000-01-21 Thread Jason Evans
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 10:11:57AM -0800, Bill Swingle wrote: > I updated my source tree around 10pm PST last night (01/20) and made > world only to find it broken this morning. I reupdated my tree just now > and it doesnt look like any files that might fix this have been touched. > Anyone else se

when is FreeBSD-4.0 up for release ?

2000-01-21 Thread Mohit Aron
Hi, wasn't the release date set for Jan 15 ? Anyone knows the new tentative date ? Thanks, - Mohit To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Louis A. Mamakos
> > Maybe you should make cvsup.freebsd.org as a rotary (of sorts), > > which returns a different IP address based on the callers IP > > address. (or is that even possible?) That way, any given > > host will always try the same cvsup server, but you'll be > > spreading the load out among the se

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 04:24:41PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Chuck Robey >writes: > > : I would think using a fixed order would be a really bad thing, causing > > : overload of the first server in line. Did I misunderst

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Jesper Skriver
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 11:06:40PM +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote: > Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > > > At 10:43 AM -0800 1/21/00, John Polstra wrote: > > >This is another in my series of occasional nags to try to get people > > >to use some of the less heavily loaded CVSup mirrors. In the US > > >a

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Andre Oppermann
Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > At 10:43 AM -0800 1/21/00, John Polstra wrote: > >This is another in my series of occasional nags to try to get people > >to use some of the less heavily loaded CVSup mirrors. In the US > >alone, we have 8 mirror sites now, named (duh) cvsup[1-8].FreeBSD.org. > >The

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Louis A. Mamakos
> A nice heuristic that attempts to minimize latency and maximize throughput > would be a nice feature to have. For extra credit, reverse entropy as well. > > Seriously, attempting to connect to a list of servers using record route > and minimizing the latency and/or hop count would be a great

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Chuck Robey
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Polstra writes: > : > Can you make cvsup accept multiple servers to try in it's configuration > : > file? > : > : I'll add that to the to-do list. > > I have a very crude script that does its own (fixed) round robin o

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Chuck Robey writes: : I would think using a fixed order would be a really bad thing, causing : overload of the first server in line. Did I misunderstand you? How about : doing a script (say in perl, it has random numbers) that randomly picks : the server from a lis

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Chuck Robey
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Chuck Robey >writes: > : I would think using a fixed order would be a really bad thing, causing > : overload of the first server in line. Did I misunderstand you? How about > : doing a script (say in perl, it has random n

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Wes Peters
John Polstra wrote: > > > Can you make cvsup accept multiple servers to try in it's configuration > > file? > > I'll add that to the to-do list. A nice heuristic that attempts to minimize latency and maximize throughput would be a nice feature to have. For extra credit, reverse entropy as well

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 9:42 PM +0100 1/21/00, Jesper Skriver wrote: >On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 03:34:42PM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > At 10:43 AM -0800 1/21/00, John Polstra wrote: > > >This is another in my series of occasional nags to try to get > > >people to use some of the less heavily loaded CVSup mirrors

Re: UDF

2000-01-21 Thread Conrad Minshall
At 1:20 AM -0800 1/15/00, Soren Schmidt wrote: >It seems Harold Gutch wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 09:29:58AM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: >> > I have it on my TODO list, but I'm not started yet, and probably wont for >> > some time to come. >> > The reason I've put it on the backburner for n

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Polstra writes: : > Can you make cvsup accept multiple servers to try in it's configuration : > file? : : I'll add that to the to-do list. I have a very crude script that does its own (fixed) round robin of multiple servers. It tries three times fast (yes, I

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Jesper Skriver
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 03:34:42PM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 10:43 AM -0800 1/21/00, John Polstra wrote: > >This is another in my series of occasional nags to try to get people > >to use some of the less heavily loaded CVSup mirrors. In the US > >alone, we have 8 mirror sites now, name

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 10:43 AM -0800 1/21/00, John Polstra wrote: >This is another in my series of occasional nags to try to get people >to use some of the less heavily loaded CVSup mirrors. In the US >alone, we have 8 mirror sites now, named (duh) cvsup[1-8].FreeBSD.org. >The newest, cvsup8, is a very high-capacit

Re: make release broken

2000-01-21 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 05:15:36PM +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 09:19:22AM +0200, John Hay wrote: > [..] > > > cp: /usr/src/release/texts/HARDWARE.TXT: No such file or directory > > > *** Error code 1 > [..] > > > It looks like the handling of HARDWARE.

Re: make release broken

2000-01-21 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 09:19:22AM +0200, John Hay wrote: > Stop in /usr/src/release. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/release. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/release. > --- > > It looks like the handling of HARDWARE.TXT in release/Makefile is broken.

Re: Warning: ioctl(... TUNSLMODE ...) to be depricated....

2000-01-21 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> Jordan, I believe this change should go into 4.0-RELEASE rather than > happening afterwards so that we have a minimal number of people > (hopefully none) using TUNSLMODE. TUNSLMODE was never MFC'd. Do it. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd

Warning: ioctl(... TUNSLMODE ...) to be depricated....

2000-01-21 Thread Brian Somers
Unless there are objections in the next day or two, I'm going to deprecate the TUNSLMODE ioctl favour of TUNSIFHEAD. Where TUNSLMODE prepended a sockaddr to each packet, TUNSIFHEAD will instead prepend a 4-byte network-byte-order address family. Jordan, I believe this change should go into 4.

Re: ...(file transfer crashes system) ethernet driver or IP stack bug?

2000-01-21 Thread arnee
Bill Paul wrote: > Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, arnee had to walk > into mine and say: hehehhe... Oh no!! What did I walk into... a quicksand! :-) > Ack... > No, please... > Stop, you're killing me... > Aie! > > Oh for the love of *god*. Rip this thing out of you

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread John Polstra
> Can you make cvsup accept multiple servers to try in it's configuration > file? I'll add that to the to-do list. John -- John Polstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] John D. Polstra & Co., Inc.Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointmen

Re: rtld-elf, java + tya

2000-01-21 Thread John Polstra
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Amancio Hasty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am fairly certain that Java + TYA worked before Jan 7 -- haven't > upgraded my system since then. Yes, that assert that failed wasn't in the dynamic linker on January 7. What I need to know is: did it start failing soo

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Amancio Hasty
So have the cvsup client do the pinging to the server and extract its current work load or other vital statistic. -- Amancio Hasty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread John Polstra
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Amancio Hasty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the user does specifiy a cvsup , can you decide for the user which > server is best based upon some simple statistic? Some day I hope it's possible, but there's nothing like that implemented currently. Also there are

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread John Polstra
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, I wrote: > To choose a mirror site, try pinging the mirrors in your country. I have been reminded that a few mirrors (cvsup8 in particular) filter pings. Don't take ping failures as a certain indication that the server is down. John -- John Polstra

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 10:43:39AM -0800, John Polstra wrote: > > To choose a mirror site, try pinging the mirrors in your country. > Pick one with a low packet loss rate. The round trip time doesn't > matter very much as long as it doesn't undergo wild variations. > Second, pick a site that's n

Re: Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread Amancio Hasty
If the user does specifiy a cvsup , can you decide for the user which server is best based upon some simple statistic? -- Amancio Hasty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: rtld-elf, java + tya

2000-01-21 Thread Russell L. Carter
|From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jan 21 11:23:14 2000 | |In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, |Russell L. Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> I've seen it with yesterdays current and libc_r threads, and it's intermittent. | |Did this problem just start, or has it been there for awhile? I |haven't changed

Please help spread the CVSup mirror load more evenly

2000-01-21 Thread John Polstra
This is another in my series of occasional nags to try to get people to use some of the less heavily loaded CVSup mirrors. In the US alone, we have 8 mirror sites now, named (duh) cvsup[1-8].FreeBSD.org. The newest, cvsup8, is a very high-capacity and well-connected site, yet hardly anybody is us

Re: rtld-elf, java + tya

2000-01-21 Thread Amancio Hasty
I am fairly certain that Java + TYA worked before Jan 7 -- haven't upgraded my system since then. -- Amancio Hasty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: rtld-elf, java + tya

2000-01-21 Thread John Polstra
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Russell L. Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've seen it with yesterdays current and libc_r threads, and it's intermittent. Did this problem just start, or has it been there for awhile? I haven't changed the dynamic linker in -current since January 9, and I'm w

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even more breakage in current

2000-01-21 Thread Bill Swingle
I updated my source tree around 10pm PST last night (01/20) and made world only to find it broken this morning. I reupdated my tree just now and it doesnt look like any files that might fix this have been touched. Anyone else seeing this? cc -pg -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/li

Re: 3C589 problems (was: 4.0 code freeze scheduled for Jan 15th)

2000-01-21 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Frank Mayhar writes: : Now I'm looking forward to the newcard cardbus support so I can finally use : the 575BT which came with the laptop. (Tapping fingers impatiently. :-) Hope you are tapping something soft :-) Wouldn't want you to hurt yourself, or have others

Re: 3C589 problems (was: 4.0 code freeze scheduled for Jan 15th)

2000-01-21 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Will Andrews writes: : On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 02:48:25AM -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote: : > Interestingly, I rebuilt world with the latest pccardd changes and, : > suddenly, the 589D started working perfectly. Unfortunately, the : > 574BT doesn't work at all now. It a

Re: rtld-elf, java + tya

2000-01-21 Thread Russell L. Carter
I've seen it with yesterdays current and libc_r threads, and it's intermittent. Russell To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: 3C589 problems (was: 4.0 code freeze scheduled for Jan 15th)

2000-01-21 Thread Frank Mayhar
Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Will Andrews writes: > : On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 02:48:25AM -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote: > : > Interestingly, I rebuilt world with the latest pccardd changes and, > : > suddenly, the 589D started working perfectly. Unfortunately, the > : > 574BT d

Re: rtld-elf, java + tya

2000-01-21 Thread John Polstra
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Max Khon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi, there! > > applet_viewer bombs out with a lot of stuff in the output like this > (until killed -9): > > ld-elf.so.1: assert failed: /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/lockdflt.c:55 Really?! Augh. Naturally this comes just hours

problems with mylex raid scsi

2000-01-21 Thread Steven Jurczyk
This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Steven Jurczyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Be sure to reply to that address. I try to install FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT snapshot on server with have mylex accele raid 250 controler. FreeBSD installs on it without any problems, but can't boot from it. I try 2 an

passwords got smashed by make installworld

2000-01-21 Thread Brian Hechinger
i'm just reporting this, i have no real info, other than it happened. i installed the 2114 snapshot. SUPed -current, uhm, two days ago i think. did a make buildworld at that time. then yesterday evening i had a chance to reboot my machine so i did make installworld (as well as a new kernel

Re: passwords got smashed by make installworld

2000-01-21 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Brian Hechinger wrote: > rebooted, tried to log in and couldn't. not as root, not as my regular user. Sounds like you clobbered your DES libcrypt libraries with non-DES ones, and now you can't use your DES passwords. Kris "How many roads must a man walk down, before

RE: error wich devices ad*

2000-01-21 Thread Nick Hibma
Your userland is out of sync with your kernel. I suggest you tell us what steps you took to get here. I'm referring to steps like: - make world - compile your kernel - update /etc/fstab and the likes - update /dev/MAKEDEV and other things you could come up with t

Re: cvsup 3.4-release to -current

2000-01-21 Thread Will Andrews
On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 09:21:13PM -0800, Matt M. wrote: > Just wondering what potential problems I am facing by going from > 3.4-release to -current. I was told on irc that my chances may not be > well. You should read /usr/src/UPDATING (for -CURRENT). I won't say you shouldn't use it since 4.0-

Re: 3C589 problems (was: 4.0 code freeze scheduled for Jan 15th)

2000-01-21 Thread Will Andrews
On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 02:48:25AM -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote: > Interestingly, I rebuilt world with the latest pccardd changes and, > suddenly, the 589D started working perfectly. Unfortunately, the > 574BT doesn't work at all now. It appears to configure properly, but > it doesn't transmit or r

Re: rtld-elf, java + tya

2000-01-21 Thread Pascal Hofstee
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 06:42:51PM +0600, Max Khon wrote: > hi, there! > > applet_viewer bombs out with a lot of stuff in the output like this > (until killed -9): > > ld-elf.so.1: assert failed: /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/lockdflt.c:55 > ld-elf.so.1: assert failed: /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/lock

RE: error wich devices ad*

2000-01-21 Thread joanra
# mount -u -o rw / mount: block device required what is the problem? :( thanks -Mensaje original- De: Nick Hibma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Para: joanra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fecha: viernes, 21 de enero de 2000 10:53 Asunto: RE: error wich devices ad*

make release failure (HARDWARE.TXT)

2000-01-21 Thread John W. DeBoskey
Hi, I've seen the following error for the last 2 days since the make release change to HARDWARE.TXT. CVS shows this file as removed from the head of the tree at revision 1.30 but the Makefile is unconditionally attempting to copy them in the ftp.1 & cdrom.1 targets, followed by optionally

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