Re: Make world breakage...

2000-01-12 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 05:25:22PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 12:16:31AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > I copied libc.so.4 manually to /usr/lib but that is not sufficient. > > It looks like ld-elf sticks to libc.so.4 even if I move the symlink > > libc.so back from libc.

Re: NTP4 manual pages committed

2000-01-12 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:10:07 +0100, Jean Louis Ntakpe wrote: > # Server is a Boeder DCF77 receiver > server 127.127.8.41 Does your server look like any of those listed in reflock.htm? Most of the documentation for your application has not been transcribed into manual page format. Ciao, Sheld

Re: move portmap(8) from /usr/sbin to /sbin

2000-01-12 Thread Tony Maher
> Sick, poor in performance and the wrong tool for the job. > See mount_null(8) for more details on how to do it right. Yes its perfect for the job apart from: man mount_null THIS FILESYSTEM TYPE IS NOT YET FULLY SUPPORTED (READ: IT DOESN'T WORK) AND USING IT MAY, IN FACT, DESTROY DATA O

Re: Additional option to ls -l for large files

2000-01-12 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > I'm sorry but I would find it non-obvious and more confusing. When ls or a > similar disk/memory utility tells me xxxK or xxxM, I would expect it to be > in 2^10 or 2^20 units. To appear otherwise would surprise me. I guess you get supri

Re: kernel panics when initializing aic7895 controller at startup.

2000-01-12 Thread Brad Guillory
I have a similar problem, in kernels build Monday and yesterday. I get a kernel panic when while booting, I don't know how to capture the boot messages to a file (do you) so I can not post them but this is the line that it dies on: panic: ahc0: brkadrint, scratch or SCB Memory Parity Error a

Re: RFC: buildworld breakage due to cross-tools/libc/mktemp.

2000-01-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 07:00:01PM -0800, John Polstra wrote: > > The buildworld problem that I introduced is due to cc_fbsd directly > > compiling and linking in src/lib/libc/stdio/mktemp.c. This is in my > > opinion a questionable practice, since it adds dependencies to the > > internals of the

Re: Additional option to ls -l for large files

2000-01-12 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > Yes, it may be "more pure" to use 1024 when comparing 'ls' listings > to block counts, but it is less confusing WITHIN a single 'ls -l' > listing if all the numbers are decimal, and not some combination of > base-10 and base-2. OK, let's try again. BLOCKSIZE=1000 ls -s Actually, this

Re: RFC: buildworld breakage due to cross-tools/libc/mktemp.

2000-01-12 Thread John Polstra
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jason Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The buildworld problem that I introduced is due to cc_fbsd directly > compiling and linking in src/lib/libc/stdio/mktemp.c. This is in my > opinion a questionable practice, since it adds dependencies to the > internals of t

Re: Make world breakage...

2000-01-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 12:16:31AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > I copied libc.so.4 manually to /usr/lib but that is not sufficient. > It looks like ld-elf sticks to libc.so.4 even if I move the symlink > libc.so back from libc.so.4 to libc.so.3 Yes. Each shared library knows it's name when it wa

RFC: buildworld breakage due to cross-tools/libc/mktemp.

2000-01-12 Thread Jason Evans
The buildworld problem that I introduced is due to cc_fbsd directly compiling and linking in src/lib/libc/stdio/mktemp.c. This is in my opinion a questionable practice, since it adds dependencies to the internals of the libc code, which has just been proven to bite. =) Aesthetics aside, I'm not

Re: Make world breakage...

2000-01-12 Thread Jason Evans
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 12:16:31AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 01:22:25PM -0800, Jason Evans wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 10:07:25PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 09:56:22PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > Anyone else se

running MAKEDEV with only a /

2000-01-12 Thread Sean Jensen-Grey
I guess I forgot MKNOD from my list. I must have copied it to /bin so I have /usr/bin/chgrp /usr/lib/libc.so.3 /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 /usr/sbin/chown /usr/sbin/chroot as being needed to run MAKEDEV in 3.4-RELEASE MAKDEV will complain while its running that it needs libgnuerex (can't remember

Re: R/W mount of / denied, filesystem not clean (after fsck)

2000-01-12 Thread David Malone
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 11:58:34AM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: > Hmm. I was under the impression that this problem was fixed, but I am > getting it again. When I have a crash and reboot fsck runs through > all the filesystems but then mount refuses to mount / thinking that it's >

Re: ** HEADS UP ** chown&chgrp moved again

2000-01-12 Thread Makoto MATSUSHITA
msmith> No. I said "make buildworld". Ah, sorry, I must say "make installworld in the process of make release". msmith> The chroot area is populated via "make installworld" from the msmith> abovementioned buildworld. The mknod that is then used to msmith> build device nodes is the one inside

Re: ** HEADS UP ** chown&chgrp moved again

2000-01-12 Thread Mike Smith
> > msmith> A release build requires a complete "make buildworld" of the > msmith> relevant world to have been completed before starting. > > Not "make buildworld" but "make installworld" ? No. I said "make buildworld". > In anyway, "make > distrib-dirs distribution" depends on some tools (no

Re: newpcm

2000-01-12 Thread Mark Newton
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 10:08:17AM -0800, Glendon Gross wrote: > Are there any tricks to enabling Awe64 support? I initially removed my > Awe64 card from my first FreeBSD machine to avoid interrupt conflicts, and > now I would like to try to integrate it back again. Would you mind > sending

Re: ** HEADS UP ** chown&chgrp moved again

2000-01-12 Thread Makoto MATSUSHITA
msmith> A release build requires a complete "make buildworld" of the msmith> relevant world to have been completed before starting. Not "make buildworld" but "make installworld" ? In anyway, "make distrib-dirs distribution" depends on some tools (not only mknod), and it's no way to install thes

Re: ** HEADS UP ** chown&chgrp moved again

2000-01-12 Thread Mike Smith
> > obrien> A while back I moved the install location for chown and chgrp > obrien> from /usr/sbin and /usr/bin to /sbin and /bin. This was > obrien> because of MAKEDEV(8)'s dependence on them, and thus forced > obrien> /usr to be mounted for correct operation of MAKEDEV(8). > > But MAKEDEV(8)

Re: ** HEADS UP ** chown&chgrp moved again

2000-01-12 Thread Makoto MATSUSHITA
obrien> A while back I moved the install location for chown and chgrp obrien> from /usr/sbin and /usr/bin to /sbin and /bin. This was obrien> because of MAKEDEV(8)'s dependence on them, and thus forced obrien> /usr to be mounted for correct operation of MAKEDEV(8). But MAKEDEV(8) still depends

Re: why is my current so .... stable?

2000-01-12 Thread Mark Newton
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 08:29:44AM -0500, Tom Embt wrote: > >This would be great, but I wonder from what source we could take reliable > >data about -current's stability. > > How 'bout some sort of client program that is run via the rc.d and > rc.shutdown scripts? One of the more annoying

Re: Make world breakage...

2000-01-12 Thread Jason Evans
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 12:16:31AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 01:22:25PM -0800, Jason Evans wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 10:07:25PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 09:56:22PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > Anyone else se

Re: Additional option to ls -l for large files

2000-01-12 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2000-Jan-13 09:54:17 +1100, Joerg Micheel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >-rw-r--r-- 1 gad staff 1951k Dec 11 03:39 asciiedit.c >-rw-r--r-- 1 gad staff999123 Dec 11 03:39 asciisrch.c You still need to mentally re-align the numbers before you can compare the sizes. >-rw-r--r-- 1 gad

Re: ViBRA16X Problems again after a make world yesterday

2000-01-12 Thread Donn Miller
"Jeremy L. Stock" wrote: > > I haven't seen any reports of this yet. After a make world yesterday, I hear > stuttered sound from RealPlayer G2 and xmms won't play anything at all. I > tried to figure out when it was broken but didn't have any luck. It worked > fine after my last make world on Dec

Re: Make world breakage...

2000-01-12 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 01:22:25PM -0800, Jason Evans wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 10:07:25PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 09:56:22PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > Anyone else seeing this? ... > > /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cpp/..

ViBRA16X Problems again after a make world yesterday

2000-01-12 Thread Jeremy L. Stock
I haven't seen any reports of this yet. After a make world yesterday, I hear stuttered sound from RealPlayer G2 and xmms won't play anything at all. I tried to figure out when it was broken but didn't have any luck. It worked fine after my last make world on December 27th. -- Jeremy L. Stock

Re: Additional option to ls -l for large files

2000-01-12 Thread Joerg Micheel
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 04:21:05PM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > The first one changes because it's over 1 megabyte, but the second > one does not change. So you get: > > -rw-r--r-- 1 gad staff 1951k Dec 11 03:39 asciiedit.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 gad staff999123 Dec 11 03:39 asciisrc

Re: NO! Re: [PATCHES] Two fixes for lpd/lpc for review and test

2000-01-12 Thread Garance A Drosihn
Back on December 27, 1999, Garance A Drosihn wrote: >At 8:55 AM -0500 12/24/99, Robert Watson wrote: >>For example, imagine that the user has a >>number of hard links to the file in question. > > Okay, here's my newer version of the code, which takes > into account multiple hard links, and also ma

Re: Additional option to ls -l for large files

2000-01-12 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 4:51 PM -0500 1/12/00, Garrett Wollman wrote: >< said: > > > In 'ls' we are not talking about a block count, we are talking about > > a byte-count. > >ls -s Hmm, valid point. 'ls -l' is not using a block count though, and so all of my previous comments still make sense for 'ls -l' and the new

Re: Additional option to ls -l for large files

2000-01-12 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > In 'ls' we are not talking about a block count, we are talking about > a byte-count. ls -s -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: move portmap(8) from /usr/sbin to /sbin

2000-01-12 Thread Jean Louis Ntakpe
"Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: ... > > Independent of order of export/mounting the dead lock occurs. Cross > mounting via NFS is a verbotten thing in the sysadmin world of production > systems. :-) I have had to fix it at several sites admin'd by newbies... > I'm not sure you are really understan

Re: mkdep error in sio.c on Alpha?

2000-01-12 Thread Bruce Evans
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > -current supped 10 minutes ago gives during make depend: > > c ../../isa/vga_isa.c ../../kern/subr_diskmbr.c ../../libkern/bcmp.c > ../../libkern/ffs.c ioconf.c param.c vnode_if.c config.c > ../../alpha/alpha/genassym.c > ../../isa/sio.c:2926: macro `CO

Re: Make world breakage...

2000-01-12 Thread Jason Evans
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 10:07:25PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 09:56:22PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > Hi > > > > Anyone else seeing this? > > > > cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H >-DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.95.2\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-

Re: Additional option to ls -l for large files

2000-01-12 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 6:01 PM -0800 1/11/00, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >Garance wrote: > > personally, I'd just as soon use K, M, and G and have it mean > > the base-10 values. If I'm looking at a decimal number for one > > file (because it's small enough), I don't want a base-2 version > > of the similar number for

Re: Buildworld Breakage

2000-01-12 Thread Jason Evans
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 11:16:38AM -0800, Jason Evans wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 02:57:41PM +0100, Pascal Hofstee wrote: > > With my CURRENT-tre updated within an hour ago ... Buildworld is broken. > > > > cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H > > -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\

Re: Make world breakage...

2000-01-12 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 09:56:22PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > Hi > > Anyone else seeing this? > > cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H >-DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.95.2\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" >-DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\" >-I/usr/obj/u

Re: NTP4 manual pages committed

2000-01-12 Thread Jean Louis Ntakpe
Hi, Could somebody help me setting up my ntp server with a DCF receiver. Since I updated to ntp4, ntpd does not like my old ntp.conf any more. Here is my old ntp.conf. my ntpd daemon was doing just fine and now :^( # -- # XNTP configuration fi

Re: move portmap(8) from /usr/sbin to /sbin

2000-01-12 Thread Peter Wemm
"Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > [..] > > > So no disk, so just what is it that you are exporting??? > > > > Just a comment: > > > > I've seen scenarios where a local disk is attached holding a kernel, > > bootblocks loader etc, but otherwise booting from a server over

Re: Additional option to ls -l for large files

2000-01-12 Thread Oliver Fromme
Personally, I'd much prefer to simply use separator characters like this: -rw--- 1 olli olli 211,602,776 Nov 28 23:09 S1E1.mpg This makes it very easy to recognize the size, and you still have the exact number of bytes, not rounded. It's even possible to to respect the locale setting (L

mkdep error in sio.c on Alpha?

2000-01-12 Thread Wilko Bulte
-current supped 10 minutes ago gives during make depend: c ../../isa/vga_isa.c ../../kern/subr_diskmbr.c ../../libkern/bcmp.c ../../libkern/ffs.c ioconf.c param.c vnode_if.c config.c ../../alpha/alpha/genassym.c ../../isa/sio.c:2926: macro `CONS_DRIVER' used with only 7 args mkdep: compile faile

Re: Make world breakage...

2000-01-12 Thread Jason Evans
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 09:56:22PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > Hi > > Anyone else seeing this? > > cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H >-DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.95.2\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" >-DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\" >-I/usr/obj/u

R/W mount of / denied, filesystem not clean (after fsck)

2000-01-12 Thread Matthew Dillon
Hmm. I was under the impression that this problem was fixed, but I am getting it again. When I have a crash and reboot fsck runs through all the filesystems but then mount refuses to mount / thinking that it's dirty when it isn't.

Make world breakage...

2000-01-12 Thread Mark Murray
Hi Anyone else seeing this? cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.95.2\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cpp/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin

Re: softdep: panic: flush_pagedep_deps: flush 3 failed

2000-01-12 Thread Matthew Dillon
Ok, I've reproduced your 'flush 3 failed' softupdates panic! I have a core dump that kirk can look at. -Matt Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :This can be reprod

Re: Buildworld Breakage

2000-01-12 Thread Pascal Hofstee
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 11:16:38AM -0800, Jason Evans wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 02:57:41PM +0100, Pascal Hofstee wrote: > > With my CURRENT-tre updated within an hour ago ... Buildworld is broken. > > > > cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H > > -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\

Re: Buildworld Breakage

2000-01-12 Thread Jason Evans
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 02:57:41PM +0100, Pascal Hofstee wrote: > With my CURRENT-tre updated within an hour ago ... Buildworld is broken. > > cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H > -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\ "2.95.2\" > -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" > -DPREFI

Re: Additional option to ls -l for large files

2000-01-12 Thread Sheldon Hearn
Folks, this is getting a little silly. Can't we cut all the esoteric mumbo-jumbo and agree to do it the same way that gnuls and our own existing df do it? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: move portmap(8) from /usr/sbin to /sbin

2000-01-12 Thread David Malone
> If your talking about dead lock caused by mutual cross mounting > between 2 systems via NFS the NFS rule book says ``don't do that, > it hurts''. > > Independent of order of export/mounting the dead lock occurs. Cross > mounting via NFS is a verbotten thing in the sysadmin world of production

Softupdates panic?

2000-01-12 Thread Chris D. Faulhaber
The following backtrace comes from a panic I just had on my laptop that appears to be softupdates-related. Sources are from yesterday, re-cvsup'ing shows no new fs-related sources updated. At the time I was in the middle of compiling the Window Maker port (actually compiling the jpeglib dependen

Re: Additional option to ls -l for large files

2000-01-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message Brad Knowles writes: : I always thought it was "k/m/b = 1,000/1,000,000/1,000,000,000" : and "K/M/G = 2^10/2^20/2^30". Or was this just some convention I : learned somewhere that I mistakenly thought of as an actual accepted : rule? Thi

Re: move portmap(8) from /usr/sbin to /sbin

2000-01-12 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > [..] > > So no disk, so just what is it that you are exporting??? > > Just a comment: > > I've seen scenarios where a local disk is attached holding a kernel, > bootblocks loader etc, but otherwise booting from a server over NFS. And > it exported the rest of it's

Re: move portmap(8) from /usr/sbin to /sbin

2000-01-12 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 01:23:14AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > Also moving them to pass1 would bring up nfs exports before we > > brought up nfs mounts. syslogd would not be running to catch > > Shouldn't nfs exports happen before nfs mounts, so that machines > which have nfs interde

building GNATS with recent current

2000-01-12 Thread Alexander Langer
Hello! I have a recent current: FreeBSD cichlids.cichlids.com 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Jan 11 13:18:21 CET 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/cichlids i386 I cannot build the CVS version of GNATS with this. This is kinda strange, because with a kernel from Dec 18th

Re: NTP4 manual pages committed

2000-01-12 Thread Nate Williams
> Those of you who whined about the absence of manual pages in the NTP4 > package recently imported into the base system, please check your commit > mail. Thanks Sheldon! Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: C++ exceptions doesn't work in shared libraries

2000-01-12 Thread Maxim Sobolev
David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 10:01:42AM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > Is there are any compiler guys to address my question or not? > > There is, I'm the one. But there are a few things ahead in the queue. Please excuse me if I've offended you, but I just doubted that no one

Re: C++ exceptions doesn't work in shared libraries

2000-01-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 10:01:42AM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Is there are any compiler guys to address my question or not? There is, I'm the one. But there are a few things ahead in the queue. Of course a patch would make things go much faster. -- -- David([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To Unsu

HEADS UP - glitch in config(8) scsi device wiring fixed..

2000-01-12 Thread Peter Wemm
For about the last 24 hours, there was a botch in the scsi device wiring support in config(8). Please make sure you are running config from -current with version 1.59 or later of mkioconf.c, or your device wiring will be most definately broken. What happened is that 'da0 at scbus0 target 3' (for

Re: panic in uipc_mbuf.c or if_aue.c

2000-01-12 Thread Bill Paul
Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Jun Kuriyama had to walk into mine and say: > > I got more panic with DEBUG=-g and INVARIANTS. I saved core dump at > this time. We need version information! How recent is your version of -current! What's the rcsid from if_aue.c! Detail

panic in uipc_mbuf.c or if_aue.c

2000-01-12 Thread Jun Kuriyama
I got more panic with DEBUG=-g and INVARIANTS. I saved core dump at this time. This panic is caused when I tested heavy traffic via aue0 (USB ethernet adaptor) with "while looped" large file scp. I think that is only active process. My ipfw is set as default like as "65535 allow ip from any

Re: Still system hangs, but different

2000-01-12 Thread Dave J. Boers
Matt, Like I said, I disabled softupdates on all my filesystems (and added DDB to the kernel). The system has been running 7 hours smoothly now, that's the longest uptime I've had so far with version 1.47 of ffs_softdep.c. I even recreated the directory that I couldn't delete previously and no

Re: move portmap(8) from /usr/sbin to /sbin

2000-01-12 Thread Martin Blapp
> I've got a loopback mount in /var/db/mounttab that looks like this: > > 946789037 localhost /null > > which is there because I run cfs (a crypto file system; see > /usr/ports/security/cfs). Part of the cfs startup script does > this: > >/usr/local/sbin/cfsd && mount -o port

Breakage in FreeBSD-4.0-CURRENT

2000-01-12 Thread Forrest Aldrich
Got this error, just now after a CVSUP: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cpp/../cc_drv/libcc_drv.a(choos e-temp.o) : In function `choose_temp_base': choose-temp.o(.text+0x13e): warning: mktemp() possibly used unsafely; consider using mkstemp() /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.

Re: ** HEADS UP ** chown&chgrp moved again

2000-01-12 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:49:54 EST, Kelly Yancey wrote: > David, I just noticed that this note in 4.0's RELNOTES about the > relocation doesn't appear applicable anymore: You're right. I've removed the comment from the RELNOTES.TXT for the i386 and alpha. Thanks! Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubsc

Re: move portmap(8) from /usr/sbin to /sbin

2000-01-12 Thread Louis A. Mamakos
> What's all this about loopback mounts in fstab about? What does > that have to do with diskless startup? I've got a loopback mount in /var/db/mounttab that looks like this: 946789037 localhost /null which is there because I run cfs (a crypto file system; see /usr/ports/

NTP4 manual pages committed

2000-01-12 Thread Sheldon Hearn
Hi folks, Those of you who whined about the absence of manual pages in the NTP4 package recently imported into the base system, please check your commit mail. Selected pages have been transcribed from the HTML documentation and committed to the base system. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: sen

Re: IPv6 testing...willing to help

2000-01-12 Thread Yoshinobu Inoue
>I've just turned on IPSec between two machines, an i386 and Alpha, > both running very recent currents, each has the IPSEC and IPSEC_ESP > config options set, but does not have IP6 support enabled. I used > setkey and could establish what appear to be encrypted connections using > vanilla te

Re: Buildworld Breakage

2000-01-12 Thread Donn Miller
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Pascal Hofstee wrote: > With my CURRENT-tre updated within an hour ago ... Buildworld is broken. [snip] > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cpp/../cc_fbsd/libcc_fbsd.a(mktemp. > o): In function `mktemp': > mktemp.o(.text+0x1e1): undefined reference to `_libc_open

Buildworld Breakage

2000-01-12 Thread Pascal Hofstee
With my CURRENT-tre updated within an hour ago ... Buildworld is broken. cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\ "2.95.2\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/

Re: why is my current so .... stable?

2000-01-12 Thread Tom Embt
At 14:27 01/12/2000 +0100, Christian Carstensen wrote: >On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Donn Miller wrote: > >> My guess is that once -current gets closer to the release date, it becomes >> more and more stable. I guess the period of greatest instability occurs >> somewhere about 1/4 to 1/2 through the -cur

Re: Additional option to ls -l for large files

2000-01-12 Thread Tom Embt
>> kB and kiB are the proper abreviations, not KB and KiB. I don't know >> if miB or MiB is correct, likely MiB. > > I always thought it was "k/m/b = 1,000/1,000,000/1,000,000,000" >and "K/M/G = 2^10/2^20/2^30". Or was this just some convention I >learned somewhere that I mistakenly th

Re: move portmap(8) from /usr/sbin to /sbin

2000-01-12 Thread Peter Wemm
"Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: [..] > So no disk, so just what is it that you are exporting??? Just a comment: I've seen scenarios where a local disk is attached holding a kernel, bootblocks loader etc, but otherwise booting from a server over NFS. And it exported the rest of it's disk for general u

Wired down SCSI devices problem

2000-01-12 Thread Bill/Carolyn Pechter
Folks, I've run into the following problem since about 1/6 or so: Have I missed something obvious, do I need the conical hat here? If so I've got a stool in the corner to sit on. The wired scsi devices no longer configure as such... I'm sure it must be me, since I've seen no messages in -current

Re: move portmap(8) from /usr/sbin to /sbin

2000-01-12 Thread David Malone
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 01:23:14AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > Also moving them to pass1 would bring up nfs exports before we > brought up nfs mounts. syslogd would not be running to catch Shouldn't nfs exports happen before nfs mounts, so that machines which have nfs interdependencies don

Re: why is my current so .... stable?

2000-01-12 Thread Christian Carstensen
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Donn Miller wrote: > My guess is that once -current gets closer to the release date, it becomes > more and more stable. I guess the period of greatest instability occurs > somewhere about 1/4 to 1/2 through the -current life cycle. We could do a > chart plotting stability v

Re: why is my current so .... stable?

2000-01-12 Thread Donn Miller
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Christian Carstensen wrote: > Sorry, but after my last make world (Tue Jan 11 15:07:18 CET 2000) I > didn't have to reboot (ok, once, after the install ;). I'm using > softupdates, vinum, smp and scsi, but the instability seems gone. > I've caused heavy load on the machine fo

why is my current so .... stable?

2000-01-12 Thread Christian Carstensen
hi, Sorry, but after my last make world (Tue Jan 11 15:07:18 CET 2000) I didn't have to reboot (ok, once, after the install ;). I'm using softupdates, vinum, smp and scsi, but the instability seems gone. I've caused heavy load on the machine for reasonable long periods, but nothing crashed. --

swapper.core

2000-01-12 Thread Wolfram Schneider
I'm running -current from July 1999. Now I getting a core dump of the swapper daemon (sic!!!) after booting. This is really strange ... a dying swapper and 100MB free memory. I guess it is a interupt conflict with the 3com ethernet card. $ ls -l /swapper.core -rw--- 1 root wheel 8192 Ja

Re: vn device strange behaviour

2000-01-12 Thread Alexey Zelkin
hi, On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 05:41:59PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :I just discovered some strange points about using vn devices (files) as > :swap devices. > : > :I have placed below some output gathered with script(1) and now > :some comments. > : > :1) I can easy unconfigure vn device whic

softdep: panic: flush_pagedep_deps: flush 3 failed

2000-01-12 Thread Alfred Perlstein
(kgdb) bt #8 0xc025c1a1 in Debugger (msg=0xc028fc72 "panic") at machine/cpufunc.h:64 #9 0xc015ac04 in panic (fmt=0xc02a0ee0 "flush_pagedep_deps: flush 3 failed") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:552 #10 0xc020441a in flush_pagedep_deps (pvp=0xd8f15da0, mp=0xc1e4c400, diraddhdp=0xc204d5e4)

Re: Additional option to ls -l for large files

2000-01-12 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:14 PM -0700 2000/1/11, Warner Losh wrote: > kB and kiB are the proper abreviations, not KB and KiB. I don't know > if miB or MiB is correct, likely MiB. I always thought it was "k/m/b = 1,000/1,000,000/1,000,000,000" and "K/M/G = 2^10/2^20/2^30". Or was this just some conventio

Re: Additional option to ls -l for large files

2000-01-12 Thread Brad Knowles
At 7:57 PM -0500 2000/1/11, Mike Fisher wrote: > Why not use Knuth's (good) suggestion for differentiating these prefixes? > > http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/news99.html Blech. The prefixes should be aware of the nature of the term to which they are being applied. For byt

Re: freezing... update to 1.45 of ffs_softdep.c

2000-01-12 Thread Joao Pedras
I'm am not using neither softupdates nor scsi on this machine only ide, nic de, s3 Matthew Dillon wrote: >:> I would like to know if the person reporting the getblk lockup (I think >:> it was Poul) sees that problem solved with the vinum fix that Alfred >:> posted in regards to or wh

Re: move portmap(8) from /usr/sbin to /sbin

2000-01-12 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> > Hi, > > > should not have to run either, *even* for diskless boot. > > > > What's all this about loopback mounts in fstab about? What does > > that have to do with diskless startup? > > Ok. I just rethought everything. It seems that a move is > unnecessary because: > > - Shar

Re: move portmap(8) from /usr/sbin to /sbin

2000-01-12 Thread Martin Blapp
Hi, > should not have to run either, *even* for diskless boot. > > What's all this about loopback mounts in fstab about? What does > that have to do with diskless startup? Ok. I just rethought everything. It seems that a move is unnecessary because: - Sharity light and cfs are st

Re: move portmap(8) from /usr/sbin to /sbin

2000-01-12 Thread Matthew Dillon
:> > portmap(8) and therefore mountd(8) should be started before :> > the nfs filesystems get mounted. But because portmap(8) is in :> > /usr/sbin , users with a nfs mounted /usr filesystem or with :> > diskless filesystems will have big problems. : :I mean, that if I do the change of startup-ord

Re: move portmap(8) from /usr/sbin to /sbin

2000-01-12 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> > > > portmap(8) and therefore mountd(8) should be started before > > > the nfs filesystems get mounted. But because portmap(8) is in > > > /usr/sbin , users with a nfs mounted /usr filesystem or with > > > diskless filesystems will have big problems. > > I mean, that if I do the change of sta

Re: Any Wine or Mozilla hackers here?

2000-01-12 Thread Chris Costello
On Tue, Jan 11, 2000, Donn Miller wrote: > I figured I'd address these two issues in one posting here. Shouldn't they be addressed on -hackers? That's sort of what it's for -- hackers of FreeBSD and software that runs on FreeBSD (described or not, that's how it seems to be these days). -- |

Re: move portmap(8) from /usr/sbin to /sbin

2000-01-12 Thread Martin Blapp
> > portmap(8) and therefore mountd(8) should be started before > > the nfs filesystems get mounted. But because portmap(8) is in > > /usr/sbin , users with a nfs mounted /usr filesystem or with > > diskless filesystems will have big problems. I mean, that if I do the change of startup-order, di

Re: move portmap(8) from /usr/sbin to /sbin

2000-01-12 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> > Hi, > > I think we should move portmap(8) to /sbin for the following reason: > > portmap(8) and therefore mountd(8) should be started before > the nfs filesystems get mounted. But because portmap(8) is in > /usr/sbin , users with a nfs mounted /usr filesystem or with > diskless filesystems

move portmap(8) from /usr/sbin to /sbin

2000-01-12 Thread Martin Blapp
Hi, I think we should move portmap(8) to /sbin for the following reason: portmap(8) and therefore mountd(8) should be started before the nfs filesystems get mounted. But because portmap(8) is in /usr/sbin , users with a nfs mounted /usr filesystem or with diskless filesystems will have big prob

Re: C++ exceptions doesn't work in shared libraries

2000-01-12 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Hi, > > It seems than long-standing problem (see PR dated May '97: > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3441) with C++ exceptions in shared > libraries is still here. It affects both -current and -stable branches and > prevents some modern software (Mico for example