Re: vty3 and 4.0 snap 080799

1999-08-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I get the message that ppp is started on VTY3 (type ALT-F3). It is at this > screen that VTY3 (or ALT-F3) is not active/available! The only other vty > that is available is vty1 (alt-f2) for monitoring. Get a load of this: the holographic shell is on ttyv3, which is ac

RE: ATA - Trouble mounting secondary master

1999-08-11 Thread Geoff Rehmet
I just rebooted on an August 11 kernel. My system still is happy with the disks. Hmm. I can't remember exactly where my tracing went, before I left off before, but the message you are seeing comes from /sys/i386/isa/diskslice_machdep.c, line 200 (version 1.35). What you will probably find, is

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Matthew N. >Dodd" writes: > : check out eisa_reg_print() and eisa_print_child() in > : sys/i386/eisa/eisaconf.c > : > : Sanity in output is a good thing. > > Agreed. I like what I see there. Maybe it is time to hoist so

Bus error in isatty() from /usr/lib/libc.so.3

1999-08-11 Thread Thimble Smith
Hello. I have a reproducable problem which gdb says is ending up at 0x2818d862 in isatty() from /usr/lib/libc.so.3. A full back trace is below. If this is a problem in FreeBSD, I'm very glad to do any experiments that might be helpful. If it's a problem somewhere else, any pointers on what I m

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread Warner Losh
[[ cc trimmed. ]] In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Matthew N. Dodd" writes: : check out eisa_reg_print() and eisa_print_child() in : sys/i386/eisa/eisaconf.c : : Sanity in output is a good thing. Agreed. I like what I see there. Maybe it is time to hoist something like that into bus_subr.c

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > What in the world would be the point of doing this? What would be so > great about not seeing the system boot up? The same reason that when you type 'cp foo /tmp/' it doesn't say '1 file copied, 3425 bytes.' or other nonesense. If nothings wrong the

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > After taking a break from this discussion, I do think that I like the > idea of wrapping boot messages in a sane way at column n (= 80 by > default) so long as one knows where messages from one device end and > the next one begin. > > I'd also oppose thin

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > > No! At some point they should use a facility similar to solaris/sysv > where they don't display, but do make it into the dmesg buffer... > > Warner > What in the world would be the point of doing this? What would be so great about not seeing the sy

IBM ThinkPad 600E with cardbus EtherJet 10/100 :)

1999-08-11 Thread David E. Cross
Ok... needless to say, I am having problems... 1: any access to the serial port (/dev/cuaa0) locks the machine. 2: I cannot get the ethernet card to work. 2a: It is sort-a recognized by the system, It senses the insert and remove, but it cannot get the CIS. I remember reading somewhere

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread Warner Losh
After taking a break from this discussion, I do think that I like the idea of wrapping boot messages in a sane way at column n (= 80 by default) so long as one knows where messages from one device end and the next one begin. I'd also oppose things like foo0: .. irq foo0: 9 as opposed to fo

DEV_MODULE doesn't support dynamic major numbers any longer?

1999-08-11 Thread Assar Westerlund
It seems to be the case that the possibility of specifying a major number of NOMAJ in DEV_MODULE has vanished. cdevsw_add() doesn't have any code for handling NOMAJ any longer. (The only mention I can find of NOMAJ in a -current kernel tree from 19990811 are these: ./alpha/alpha/promcons.

Re: vty3 and 4.0 snap 080799

1999-08-11 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
It sounds like ppp is simply exiting immediately. I'll turn debugging on and give it a shot myself; perhaps somebody broke something. - Jordan > I should have also stated that I tried all the other "F" keys also. > The only vty that is available/active is vty1 for debugging. Every other > F-key

isa shared interupts

1999-08-11 Thread Frank J. Beckmann
Hi, does current current support isa cards that use shared interupts on the card (eg. multi sio cards) again? Frank To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-11 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
Hi, Nate. I'm sorry if my poor english troubled you. > We should have no problems responding in this amount of time in FreeBSD, > since we don't (didn't used to?) have any code that should cause > significant delay in responding. My understanding on system suspend code in FreeBSD is that once A

Re: ATA - Trouble mounting secondary master

1999-08-11 Thread Kevin Street
Kevin Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Soren Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hmm, damn, after the problem went away for Geoff I thought it to be > > solved since I've never heard of it anywhere else, and I cant reproduce > > it here no matter what I try. > > Does it help eany if you o

vty3 problem solved, but....

1999-08-11 Thread Michael A. Endsley
I started a fresh installation with todays floppies. During the installation, I monitored vty1. What I found out is that ifconfig doesn't recognize/config either my modem or cuaa0(ppp0). After clicking "YES" at the "Do you want to try DHCP configuration of the interface" screen, I switched to ALT-

Re: Crash with NFS V2

1999-08-11 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :Hi, : :I have a program which does something like userland-nfs (nfs v2 client). :It is able to crash the machine. After compiling a debug kernel the :only output I get after the crashdump is: : :---snip--- :(100) root@ttyp3 # gdb -kernel -se /sys/compile/WORK/kernel.debug -c :/var/crash/vmcor

Re: ATA - Trouble mounting secondary master

1999-08-11 Thread Kevin Street
Soren Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It seems Geoff Rehmet wrote: > > Brian McGroarty writes : > > > In using the ATA driver, I'm unable to automatically mount a > > > partition on a master drive on the secondary controller. fsck > > > complains that device rwd2s1e isn't configured and exi

Re: vty3 and 4.0 snap 080799

1999-08-11 Thread mandm
Well, something is wrong with what I am trying to say :) After entering the phone number to my ISP, the message screen pops up saying "...type ALT-F3..." to go to that vty. A person is supposed to go to that vty and then either type "dial" or "term". It is at this time that the vty (alt-f3) is not

Re: vty3 and 4.0 snap 080799

1999-08-11 Thread Larry Lile
The shell is not started until after the install starts, ie when the ftp connects (the dists start getting untarred.) Larry Lile On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I should have also stated that I tried all the other "F" keys also. > The only vty that is available/active is vty1 f

Re: vty3 and 4.0 snap 080799

1999-08-11 Thread mandm
I should have also stated that I tried all the other "F" keys also. The only vty that is available/active is vty1 for debugging. Every other F-key gets the "beep". HTH in solving my problem fwiw dept.- I have been using FreeBSD since 2.21-R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: vty3 and 4.0 snap 080799

1999-08-11 Thread mand
I just downloaded the latest snap floppies (19990811), and tried installing again. My original post (as shown) was/is correct! Under the "options" screen to set the media type, I choose ftp...(4.0-current). After typing the ip address, host name, etc, I then go through the steps for ppp

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread Adam Strohl
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > It also would allow one to kick the VGA display into 132 columns in > the boot loader and have more of a chance to get more of the boot > process on the screen. syscons already supports parts of this... I was just reading through the thread again, and I

Re: vty3 and 4.0 snap 080799

1999-08-11 Thread Andy Farkas
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Larry Lile wrote: > Use alt-F4 for the shell during install. > > vty0 -> alt-F1 [Install] > vty1 -> alt-F2 [Debug] > vty2 -> alt-f3 [Inactive] How about we emit a message: "This screen intentionally left blank." :) > vty3 -> alt-F4 [Shell] > > PrtScr will cycle through

Re: vty3 and 4.0 snap 080799

1999-08-11 Thread Larry Lile
Use alt-F4 for the shell during install. vty0 -> alt-F1 [Install] vty1 -> alt-F2 [Debug] vty2 -> alt-f3 [Inactive] vty3 -> alt-F4 [Shell] PrtScr will cycle through all available vty's. HTH. HAND :) Larry Lile [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At 02:45 PM 08/11

Re: vty3 and 4.0 snap 080799

1999-08-11 Thread mand
At 02:45 PM 08/11/1999 +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: >"Michael A. Endsley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I just downloaded the latest snap (080799) and tried installing it. >> When getting to the media section and configuring ppp for a ftp install, >> I try going to vty3 (alt-f3). However, th

Crash with NFS V2

1999-08-11 Thread A . Leidinger
Hi, I have a program which does something like userland-nfs (nfs v2 client). It is able to crash the machine. After compiling a debug kernel the only output I get after the crashdump is: ---snip--- (100) root@ttyp3 # gdb -kernel -se /sys/compile/WORK/kernel.debug -c /var/crash/vmcore.1 IdlePTD

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-11 Thread Nate Williams
> APM Spec. v1.2 Appendix D - APM Driver Considerations - FWIW, the wording here is almost the same as the previous specifications. > When an APM connection exists, the APM BIOS transitions into System > Standby and System Suspend states only when directed to do so by a > call from the APM D

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Nate Williams scribbled this message on Aug 11: > > : The line wrapping stuff I brought back for the EISA bus stuff in -current > > : makes it easy to define the wrap point. If some small number of people > > : want the ability to wrap at 132 or 40 or whatever, I don't think its > > : unreasonabl

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread Oliver Fromme
Warner Losh wrote in list.freebsd-current: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nate Williams writes: > : And you plan on booting FreeBSD on your PDA? > > Yes. I'm already booting NetBSD/hpcmips on it But that's another > thread all by itself... As a small sidenote: Most PDAs can be used

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread Nate Williams
> : stty columns is only effective *AFTER* you have a shell and the box has > : booted. > > Yes I know that, but you seem to be arguing that all terminals have 80 > columns... This is not the case, although many of them do. Most of them do. It is the 'least common denominator' that FreeBSD run

Re: recent apm changes

1999-08-11 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
Hi, > > Oh, do you have suspend button on your box? Cool. > > On my poor experience, suspeding by hot-keys easier to > > success than by zzz(8). > > On this point I can report the oppposite experience, on my > machine (a no name special) the trackpad tends to lock up if touched > betwee

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nate Williams writes: : And you plan on booting FreeBSD on your PDA? Yes. I'm already booting NetBSD/hpcmips on it But that's another thread all by itself... : stty columns is only effective *AFTER* you have a shell and the box has : booted. Yes I know that,

Re: wd0: interrupt timeout (status 58 error 1)

1999-08-11 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Thierry Herbelot wrote: > Soren Schmidt wrote: > > > [SNIP] > > > > Have you tried putting disks on the UDMA66 channel ?? I think it > > should work in upto WDMA mode now with the ata driver... > > I have first to install 4.0 and from my wd2 (I've got a little help from > RNordier, I s

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread Nate Williams
> : The line wrapping stuff I brought back for the EISA bus stuff in -current > : makes it easy to define the wrap point. If some small number of people > : want the ability to wrap at 132 or 40 or whatever, I don't think its > : unreasonable to provide them the knob to tweak in the boot loader.

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Matthew N. Dodd" writes: : The line wrapping stuff I brought back for the EISA bus stuff in -current : makes it easy to define the wrap point. If some small number of people : want the ability to wrap at 132 or 40 or whatever, I don't think its : unreasonable to p

Re: wd0: interrupt timeout (status 58 error 1)

1999-08-11 Thread Thierry Herbelot
Soren Schmidt wrote: > [SNIP] > > Have you tried putting disks on the UDMA66 channel ?? I think it > should work in upto WDMA mode now with the ata driver... I have first to install 4.0 and from my wd2 (I've got a little help from RNordier, I should make do) Then, I'll get a UDMA-66 drive (any

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Nate Williams wrote: > The most common case for a console is an 80 column wide console (this is > the default for the virtual terminals, most printers, most text > terminals, etc..) > > Changing it is silly, and non-standard. The line wrapping stuff I brought back for the EI

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > Then we disagree. There are several scripts floating around that use > them for purposes where there isn't a kernel interface... It would be > ideal if there were interfaces for all this info, but there isn't > always. Fine. Due to flux in the bus-syst

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread Nate Williams
> : Correct, but the nature of the kernel probe/attach messages is to convey > : information in a readable, consistent, useful manner. > > Agreed. However, what's magical about 80 columns? What's magical is that almost every text console is limited to 80 columns (think serial console), as well

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Matthew N. Dodd" writes: : On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Warner Losh wrote: : > I'd be very careful of line wrapping probe messages. I have scripts : > that rely on them being on one line to get a list of irqs, etc. : : I would consider information from the kernel probe/a

Re: it's time...

1999-08-11 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > I'd be very careful of line wrapping probe messages. I have scripts > that rely on them being on one line to get a list of irqs, etc. I would consider information from the kernel probe/attach to be useful only for humans. An interface to query the resou

Re: wd0: interrupt timeout (status 58 error 1)

1999-08-11 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Francis Jordan wrote: > Soren Schmidt wrote: > > > > Hmm try the patch below so we can tell what command it is failing on.. > > After removing the quotation mark after the word command in the above > patch (smile), it prints: Yeah, so much for writing code without compiling it :) > ata

Re: wd0: interrupt timeout (status 58 error 1)

1999-08-11 Thread Francis Jordan
Soren Schmidt wrote: > > Hmm try the patch below so we can tell what command it is failing on.. > > Index: ata-all.c > --- ata-all.c 1999/08/06 17:39:37 1.16 > +++ ata-all.c 1999/08/11 07:00:09 > @@ -693,7 +693,8 @@ > scp->active = ATA_WAIT_INTR; > outb(scp->ioaddr + ATA_

Re: vty3 and 4.0 snap 080799

1999-08-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
"Michael A. Endsley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just downloaded the latest snap (080799) and tried installing it. > When getting to the media section and configuring ppp for a ftp install, > I try going to vty3 (alt-f3). However, that vty is not available. I have > tried this 3 times now. Is

Re: installing hack(6) overwrites /var/games/hackdir/record file!

1999-08-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 09:54:48AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 04:24:55AM +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: > > Perhaps this should be a PR... > > > > Seeing as how we are recently being amused by fortune(6) quotes, I thought > > I'd mention an acronymn that hasn't been used

RE: ATA - Trouble mounting secondary master

1999-08-11 Thread Geoff Rehmet
FWIW, I am running a July 30th kernel. let me see if the problem comes back with a new CVSup. > -Original Message- > From: Brian McGroarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 11 August 1999 01:41 > To: Soren Schmidt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ATA - Trouble m

Re: ATA - Trouble mounting secondary master

1999-08-11 Thread Brian McGroarty
I've just tried and coming in via wd and ad produce the same problem. Note my previous comment - the access light is a steady on for this particular drive. It's left that way when devices are probed during startup. My configuration FWIW - (Note that the devclass_alloc_unit messages are new as o

Re: installing hack(6) overwrites /var/games/hackdir/record file!

1999-08-11 Thread Andy Farkas
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Bob Bishop wrote: > >> Can anyone explain why every time I upgrade world, my hard earned 'record' > >> file whilst playing hack(6) gets overwritten by /dev/null, and also all > >> the user 'bones' and 'save' files rm'd? > > > >Blimey! I wondered where all my rogue(6) scores

Re: installing hack(6) overwrites /var/games/hackdir/record file!

1999-08-11 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi, At 09:54 11/08/99 +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: >On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 04:24:55AM +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: >> Perhaps this should be a PR... >> >> Seeing as how we are recently being amused by fortune(6) quotes, I thought >> I'd mention an acronymn that hasn't been used recently: POLA >

Re: wd0: interrupt timeout (status 58 error 1)

1999-08-11 Thread Mike Holling
> > That can't be true, at least not for the IBM DeskStars I own, I've > > NEVER EVER seen them do that, one proof should be: > > same here > > wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 > wd0: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): , DMA, 3

Re: installing hack(6) overwrites /var/games/hackdir/record file!

1999-08-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 04:24:55AM +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: > Perhaps this should be a PR... > > Seeing as how we are recently being amused by fortune(6) quotes, I thought > I'd mention an acronymn that hasn't been used recently: POLA > > Can anyone explain why every time I upgrade world, my h