Peer review (was: HEADS UP!!!! Important instructions for -current users!)

1999-04-19 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 19 April 1999 at 21:46:30 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> integrate newconfig stuff. I hope you have the flexibility >> to think seriously the integration of newconfig. > > As long as it doesn't significantly impact the work already in > progress, I think the flexibility is certainly

Re: HEADS UP!!!! Important instructions for -current users!

1999-04-19 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> integrate newconfig stuff. I hope you have the flexibility > to think seriously the integration of newconfig. As long as it doesn't significantly impact the work already in progress, I think the flexibility is certainly there. > To make the communication more close, it is possible to post > t

Re: HEADS UP!!!! Important instructions for -current users!

1999-04-19 Thread Tomoaki NISHIYAMA
From: Julian Elischer Subject: Re: HEADS UP Important instructions for -current users! Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: julian> from my understanding, the biggest difference is that New-bus julian> is being designed to eventually delegate 'config' to a very minor role

Re: ATTENTION PLEASE: g77 in base system.

1999-04-19 Thread Daniel Ortmann
> On Fri, Apr 09, 1999 at 03:52:58PM +0200, Jeremy Lea wrote: ... > Many people don't seem to understand that FreeBSD can be used for > workstations as well as servers and Fortran is *essential* on a > scientific/engineering workstation. ... Absolutely correct. Some up-and-coming IBM simulation p

Re: HEADS UP!!!! Important instructions for -current users!

1999-04-19 Thread Julian Elischer
from my understanding, the biggest difference is that New-bus is being designed to eventually delegate 'config' to a very minor role where newconfig (as it's name suggests' maintains 'config' a s a major component.. It has been a long standing goal of FreeBSD to make the system as dynamic as possib

Re: PCI VGA card becomes ISA

1999-04-19 Thread Kevin G. Eliuk
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Blaz Zupan wrote: > I noticed that after the latest round of new-bus changes, my PCI VGA card > is now recognized as a generic ISA card by the kernel. I don't see any ill > effects from this, but the new-bus developers may want to know, in case it > breaks something else. > >

RE: alright, x11amp instructions

1999-04-19 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 19-Apr-99 Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > since I am inexperienced at creating ports, I'll just give instructions on > how to get the latest linux x11amp to work. First, it won't work with > voxware, only pcm or OSS. other than that, here are the instructions: What does it use that pcm and OS

RE: lnc0: broke for us between 3.1 and 4.0?

1999-04-19 Thread paul
> -Original Message- > From: Richard Tobin [mailto:rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk] > Sent: 19 April 1999 23:59 > To: p...@originative.co.uk; freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; > freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: lnc0: broke for us between 3.1 and 4.0? > > > > > lnc0: Memory allocated above 16M

RE: lnc0: broke for us between 3.1 and 4.0?

1999-04-19 Thread Richard Tobin
> > lnc0: Memory allocated above 16Mb limit > I've just committed a fix for this. It was caused by the change to the way > vm_page.c allocates memory Is this fix going into stable? (I'm a little surprised that such a change was considered appropriate for the stable branch in the first place.) -

Re: USB Development

1999-04-19 Thread Nick Hibma
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Insert your e-mail message in your web page under a section titled such as > Project Status. Good idea. > What specifically is needed in the driver to unplug and plug a device? attach is straightforward. detach requires: - disconnect function

alright, x11amp instructions

1999-04-19 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
since I am inexperienced at creating ports, I'll just give instructions on how to get the latest linux x11amp to work. First, it won't work with voxware, only pcm or OSS. other than that, here are the instructions: Well, there isn't that much to updating the port. I guess the linux_lib port needs

Re: x11amp 0.9beta1.1 for linux

1999-04-19 Thread Leif Neland
Just make a port :-) - Original Message - From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Sent: 19. april 1999 23:33 Subject: x11amp 0.9beta1.1 for linux > just in case anyone would like to know, I have gotten x11amp 0.9beta1.1 > for linux working on my FreeBSD-CURRENT cvsupped as of last night. If >

Re: x11amp 0.9beta1.1 for linux

1999-04-19 Thread W Gerald Hicks
> just in case anyone would like to know, I have gotten x11amp 0.9beta1.1 > for linux working on my FreeBSD-CURRENT cvsupped as of last night. If > anyone would like instructions on how I did this, please email me. Sure! Are you planning on updating the port? If not, I'll do the grunt work for y

Problem upgrading 3.1R to 4.0-current

1999-04-19 Thread Francois E Jaccard
Hi, I have an Asus P2B-D with 2 PII/350, 128Mb Ram with FreeBSD 3.1R installed. I just added the SMP lines to the generic kernel and I am having constant reboots. I am trying to upgrade to 4.0-current and I updated my source tree tonight around 17:30 UTC but "make world" gives me errors, at diff

Re: x11amp 0.9beta1.1 for linux

1999-04-19 Thread Shawn Leas
I would like that. Is it a port, or is it a linux compat thing? On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 05:33:28PM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > just in case anyone would like to know, I have gotten x11amp 0.9beta1.1 > for linux working on my FreeBSD-CURRENT cvsupped as of last night. If > anyone would lik

Newbus and PCCARD

1999-04-19 Thread Jerry Alexandratos
Before I do a send-pr, I wanted to see if anyone else was having problems with newbus and pccardd. I've got a a 3COM/Megahertz 3CXM556 modem (sio1) and a Xircom 10/100 ethernet card (xe0). Doing a "make world" and then building a new kernel (with appropriate changes for newbus) renders the modem

x11amp 0.9beta1.1 for linux

1999-04-19 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
just in case anyone would like to know, I have gotten x11amp 0.9beta1.1 for linux working on my FreeBSD-CURRENT cvsupped as of last night. If anyone would like instructions on how I did this, please email me. Kenneth Culver To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe fr

USB Development

1999-04-19 Thread Amancio Hasty
Insert your e-mail message in your web page under a section titled such as Project Status. What specifically is needed in the driver to unplug and plug a device? > > Currently we have the following: > > - working drivers for keyboards, mice, hubs > - usable driver for USB Zip driv

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf LINT GENERIC

1999-04-19 Thread Nick Hibma
Currently we have the following: - working drivers for keyboards, mice, hubs - usable driver for USB Zip drive (Iomega, SCSI) (any coders/testers (the true combination) welcome) I am currently finishing the initial workings of the Zip driver and have been able to MSDOS fo

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf LINT GENERIC

1999-04-19 Thread Amancio Hasty
Redirected to -current... I seem to recollect that you were having problems in handling interrupts so were are you at with this problem.. > > Unplug a few devices and you will have the opportunity to review the > devices probed in your machine (reboot). > > I've only removed the list

Re: newbus and modem(s)

1999-04-19 Thread Rick Whitesel
Hi: Sorry for my lack of clarity. What I meant was that we DO need control on the cvsup updates. I am perfectly happy with the way the FreeBSD team runs the show. Rick - Original Message - From: Wilko Bulte To: Rick Whitesel Cc: ; ; ; ; ; ; Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 2:12 PM Subj

modules/joy breaks make world

1999-04-19 Thread Steven G. Kargl
FYI. The recent commit to move sys/sys/lkm.h to the attic breaks "make world" is sys/module/joy. 1.19 Mon Apr 19 14:19:52 1999 UTC by peter CVS Tags: HEAD Diffs to 1.18 FILE REMOVED Zap LKM option and support. Farewell old friend. -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.

Re: pcm sound driver crashes at boot time.

1999-04-19 Thread Russell Cattelan
Russell Cattelan wrote: > I haven't been able to track down exactly where this > is occuring, but disabling pcm allows eliminates the crash. > > The build is current as of Sun 18th. > > The one strange thing about this box, it has > two sounds cards. A build in Yamaha OPL-3 (really really crappy)

PCI VGA card becomes ISA

1999-04-19 Thread Blaz Zupan
I noticed that after the latest round of new-bus changes, my PCI VGA card is now recognized as a generic ISA card by the kernel. I don't see any ill effects from this, but the new-bus developers may want to know, in case it breaks something else. The VGA card is a S3 Trio64V+. Here's the dmesg out

Re: error building kernel

1999-04-19 Thread Warner Losh
In message <19990419143825.13fe01...@spinner.netplex.com.au> Peter Wemm writes: : I'll bet you've got two 'psm0' lines in the config file.. I got the same error when I had two psm devices in my kernel. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current"

Re: newbus and modem(s)

1999-04-19 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Rick Whitesel wrote ... > Hi: > Just wanted to say that I think the lack of a free-for-all CVS is > exactly what is required to consistently move FreeBSD forward. If someone Free-for-all as in 'everybody can do commits' ? This is a joke I hope. There already exists such a thing. It is call

Re: HEADS UP!!!! Important instructions for -current users!

1999-04-19 Thread Brian Somers
--- Blind-Carbon-Copy X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Peter Wemm , d...@freebsd.org Cc: s...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP Important instructions for -current users! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 17 Apr 1999 05:30:41 +0800." <19990416213043.95c7b1...@spinner

Re: newbus and isa auto irq

1999-04-19 Thread Luoqi Chen
> This is not happening for the maddr stuff. > I suspect this would do better: > > if (portsize > 0) > isa_set_portsize(dev, portsize); > if (dvp->id_iobase >= 0) > isa_set_port(dev,

Re: Language barrier (was Re: HEADS UP!!!! Important instructions for -current users! )

1999-04-19 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Warner Losh wrote ... > In message <199904181923.naa25...@mt.sri.com> Nate Williams writes: > : This is wonderful, but has this ever happened in our mailing lists? I > : guess I don't remember anyone *ever* ridiculing or harassing someone for > : not being fluent in the language. > > I have se

Re: newbus and isa auto irq

1999-04-19 Thread Peter Wemm
John Hay wrote: [..] > Apr 19 19:22:28 orca /kernel.doug: ppc0: interrupting at irq 7 > Apr 19 19:22:28 orca /kernel.doug: ed0 at port 0x280-0x29f on isa0 > Apr 19 19:22:28 orca /kernel.doug: ed0: address 00:00:c0:1d:43:db, type SMC82 16/ > SMC8216C (16 bit) > Apr 19 19:22:28 orca /kernel.doug

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Re: newbus and isa auto irq

1999-04-19 Thread John Hay
> > > > I ave found one more thing that seems to be broken. I have used the > > irq "autodetect" feature of the ed(4) for a long time, but it seems > > that the newbus compatability shim is not doing the right thing > > with it. My kernel config file have a line like this: > > > > device ed0 at

Re: newbus and modem(s)

1999-04-19 Thread Amancio Hasty
> All 'source code' control is guarded by a certain group of people in > *every* project, and FreeBSD is no different. It just has different > folks guarding it, who have different standards and requirements. Perhaps a good step towards understanding would be if those "guarding" the process would

Re: Important instructions for -current users!

1999-04-19 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:17:05 +0900, Tomoaki NISHIYAMA wrote: > By the way, how can I subscribe new-bus mailing list? > It does not seem to be controlled by majord...@freebsd.org. I took "HEADS UP" out of the Subject to help the guy who maintains src/UPDATING . :-) You can subscribe to the list

Re: newbus and modem(s)

1999-04-19 Thread Rick Whitesel
Hi: Just wanted to say that I think the lack of a free-for-all CVS is exactly what is required to consistently move FreeBSD forward. If someone feels they would like to take a different approach, then I say by all means do so. If you can convince people to join your development effort then grea

Re: newbus and modem(s)

1999-04-19 Thread Nate Williams
> FreeBSD is somewhat of a closed development enviroment what > some organizations do is that they maintain their own cvs repository. FreeBSD is no more closed than "linux" is, which is touted as the most open development project that exists. Joe Average person can no more commit can't commit co

Re: newbus and modem(s)

1999-04-19 Thread Amancio Hasty
FreeBSD is somewhat of a closed development enviroment what some organizations do is that they maintain their own cvs repository. CVS repository is guarded by the core members and only "certified" committers are allowed to commit code that in addition to not having a procedure or a processs to mi

Re: newbus and modem(s)

1999-04-19 Thread W Gerald Hicks
> > I saw this and just had to note something to you. THINK what branch you > > are using. This is _WHERE_ things are being aired publically, and merged > > eventually to the STABLE branch. > > Gosh, thank you, without your wonderful help and understanding, I NEVER > would have been able to realize

Re: newbus and modem(s)

1999-04-19 Thread W Gerald Hicks
> And then what about newconfig? To me this just adds more truth to the > whole /. argument that *BSD promotes a closed development model. It's a flawed argument and one that doesn't acknowledge, at least in the case of FreeBSD, the existence of publicly accessible CVS repositories along with the

sysinstall crash system after cvsup at 990417

1999-04-19 Thread REM
I supped my system at 990417. Then I make world and rebuild sysinstall. The command /stand/sysinstall crash my system during probe hard disk. Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x31 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instructi

Re: error building kernel

1999-04-19 Thread Peter Wemm
Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > I followed the instructions about NEXUS to rebuild my kernel, and it > now it won't compile. It gets all the way through the compile, and then > gives these errors. I'll bet you've got two 'psm0' lines in the config file.. All that config is doing now is basically co

error building kernel

1999-04-19 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
I followed the instructions about NEXUS to rebuild my kernel, and it now it won't compile. It gets all the way through the compile, and then gives these errors. generating linker set emulation glue for ELF cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing -prototypes

Re: newbus and modem(s)

1999-04-19 Thread Takanori Watanabe
In message <19990419124505.62d951...@spinner.netplex.com.au>, Peter Wemm wrote: >Never mind, I understand now. :-) Ok, I think I also understand. The DRIVER_MODULE() macro is consist for static configuration to kick module initialization routine for every driver.Is it correct? But are ther more

Re: newbus and modem(s)

1999-04-19 Thread Peter Wemm
Peter Wemm wrote: > Doug Rabson wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Takanori Watanabe wrote: > > > > > In message > , Do > > > ug Rabson wrote: > > > >On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 takaw...@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp wrote: > > > >> Simple Question. > > > >> If there were 'Closed'-Host-Controller-I

Re: newbus and modem(s)

1999-04-19 Thread Nick Hibma
Let me try to post an example to see whether I understood your question: Let's assume we have a motherboard with an ISA NHCI (new host controller interface) apart from the standard PCI UHCI (Universal Host Controller Interface, Intel) available in the 82371AB chipset. We boot the system, the UH

Re: new kernel and IPDIVERT

1999-04-19 Thread Peter Wemm
Brian Feldman wrote: > On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Ilya Naumov wrote: > > > > > i have compiled the latest kernel and encountered a problem with IPDIVERT. even > > with "options IPDIVERT" string in kernel config, kernel says the following: > > > > IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled,

Re: newbus and modem(s)

1999-04-19 Thread Peter Wemm
Doug Rabson wrote: > On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Takanori Watanabe wrote: > > > In message , Do > > ug Rabson wrote: > > >On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 takaw...@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp wrote: > > >> Simple Question. > > >> If there were 'Closed'-Host-Controller-Interface with object-only driver

Re: new kernel and IPDIVERT

1999-04-19 Thread Brian Feldman
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Ilya Naumov wrote: > > i have compiled the latest kernel and encountered a problem with IPDIVERT. > even > with "options IPDIVERT" string in kernel config, kernel says the following: > > IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding > disabled, lo

Re: newbus and isa auto irq

1999-04-19 Thread Luoqi Chen
> Hi, > > I ave found one more thing that seems to be broken. I have used the > irq "autodetect" feature of the ed(4) for a long time, but it seems > that the newbus compatability shim is not doing the right thing > with it. My kernel config file have a line like this: > > device ed0 at isa? por

Re: HEADS UP!!!! Important instructions for -current users!

1999-04-19 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> One problem on the decision is that it was not based > on a judge that new-bus is technically or philosophically > superior to newconfig framework but you stated I don't think they're so far apart that there's a "clear" superiority, and we certainly didn't get that impression from any of the dis

new kernel and IPDIVERT

1999-04-19 Thread Ilya Naumov
i have compiled the latest kernel and encountered a problem with IPDIVERT. even with "options IPDIVERT" string in kernel config, kernel says the following: IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, logging disabled of course, firewall rules like "add dive

Re: newbus and modem(s)

1999-04-19 Thread Nick Hibma
> Simple Question. > If there were 'Closed'-Host-Controller-Interface with object-only driver, > Can the vendor make the Host controller recognized without changing > usb.c code? If he exports a USB bus with the appropriate methods, he will be able to drop it in, yes. You might have noticed

Re: HEADS UP!!!! Important instructions for -current users!

1999-04-19 Thread Tomoaki NISHIYAMA
jkh> > I don't go to new-bus, this direction is disunion of BSDs. It is jkh> > bad decision. jkh> jkh> I'm sorry that you feel this way, but I can only re-state that better jkh> communication could have prevented this in the first place and hope jkh> that you've learned your own lessons from this

Re: newbus and modem(s)

1999-04-19 Thread Doug Rabson
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Takanori Watanabe wrote: > In message , > Do > ug Rabson wrote: > >On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 takaw...@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp wrote: > >> Simple Question. > >> If there were 'Closed'-Host-Controller-Interface with object-only driver, > >> Can the vendor make the Host con

Re: HEADS UP!!!! Important instructions for -current users!

1999-04-19 Thread Tomoaki NISHIYAMA
imp> Let us not forget that much of the newconfig work can be used with imp> newconfig shims in the newbus scheme. If you are to construct a newconfig shim in the new-bus scheme, it means that you'll have two interface to device drivers. Then, you should consider, whether it is better to make a

Re: newbus and modem(s)

1999-04-19 Thread Takanori Watanabe
In message , Do ug Rabson wrote: >On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 takaw...@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp wrote: >> Simple Question. >> If there were 'Closed'-Host-Controller-Interface with object-only driver, >> Can the vendor make the Host controller recognized without changing >> usb.c code? >> >> #T

Re: newbus and isa auto irq

1999-04-19 Thread Doug Rabson
On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, John Hay wrote: > Hi, > > I ave found one more thing that seems to be broken. I have used the > irq "autodetect" feature of the ed(4) for a long time, but it seems > that the newbus compatability shim is not doing the right thing > with it. My kernel config file have a line

Re: newbus and modem(s)

1999-04-19 Thread Doug Rabson
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 takaw...@shidahara1.planet.sci.kobe-u.ac.jp wrote: > In message , Nick > Hibm > a wrote: > >> Why would I say it wasn't ready? Because outside of core (apparently), > >> nobody was warned/told that this was going to be committed in a few > >> days/hours/minutes. > > >I've por