Re: [e-users] Poor openGL performance

2012-07-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 23:33:59 -0300 [email protected] said: > I run another test. I enabled the openGL engine while tailf'ing the > ~/.xsession-errors. This are the 'weird' parts: > > "... > INFe_main.c:565 ESTART: 0.02999 [0.7] - E_Randr Init > ERR<>e_randr_12.c:225 safety check failed: E_RAN

Re: [e-users] E16/E17 feature parity

2012-07-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:57:03 -0400 The Wanderer said: > On 07/29/2012 08:09 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:43:27 -0400 The Wanderer said: > > >> I do object in principle to any refusal to allow customization, but I > >> certainly do recognize that prac

Re: [e-users] Poor openGL performance

2012-07-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 23:21:47 -0300 Wido said: > > > On Sunday July 29 2012 21:43:14 thomasg escribió: > > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Carsten Haitzler > > wrote: > > > On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:27:08 +0200 thomasg said: > > > > > >> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Wido wrote: > > >> > Hi

Re: [e-users] Poor openGL performance

2012-07-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 02:43:14 +0200 thomasg said: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Carsten Haitzler > wrote: > > On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:27:08 +0200 thomasg said: > > > >> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Wido wrote: > >> > Hi folks. I've recently bought a new GeForce GTX 550 Ti card. I used t

Re: [e-users] E16/E17 feature parity

2012-07-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:38:56 -0400 The Wanderer said: > On 07/29/2012 07:50 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > [that on 2012-07-29 at 16:59, The Wanderer wrote:] > > >> On 07/29/2012 11:12 AM, Wido wrote: > > >>> To change how the comp works, go to control panel -> composite -> ef

Re: [e-users] Poor openGL performance

2012-07-29 Thread wido . gg
I run another test. I enabled the openGL engine while tailf'ing the ~/.xsession-errors. This are the 'weird' parts: "... INFe_main.c:565 ESTART: 0.02999 [0.7] - E_Randr Init ERR<>e_randr_12.c:225 safety check failed: E_RANDR_12_NO_MODE(mode) is true ERR<>e_randr_12_output.c:196 safety check f

Re: [e-users] Poor openGL performance

2012-07-29 Thread Wido
On Sunday July 29 2012 21:43:14 thomasg escribió: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Carsten Haitzler > wrote: > > On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:27:08 +0200 thomasg said: > > > >> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Wido wrote: > >> > Hi folks. I've recently bought a new GeForce GTX 550 Ti card. I used

Re: [e-users] E16/E17 feature parity

2012-07-29 Thread The Wanderer
On 07/29/2012 07:50 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: [that on 2012-07-29 at 16:59, The Wanderer wrote:] >> On 07/29/2012 11:12 AM, Wido wrote: >>> To change how the comp works, go to control panel -> composite -> effects >>> tab. In styles you can change the behaviour (I have everythi

Re: [e-users] E16/E17 feature parity

2012-07-29 Thread The Wanderer
On 07/29/2012 08:09 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:43:27 -0400 The Wanderer said: >> I do object in principle to any refusal to allow customization, but I >> certainly do recognize that practicality must take precedence. > > in some cases we have to refuse

Re: [e-users] Poor openGL performance

2012-07-29 Thread thomasg
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:27:08 +0200 thomasg said: > >> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Wido wrote: >> > Hi folks. I've recently bought a new GeForce GTX 550 Ti card. I used to >> > have a 9800GT but it broke, so I've been using or a mont

Re: [e-users] Poor openGL performance

2012-07-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:27:08 +0200 thomasg said: > On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Wido wrote: > > Hi folks. I've recently bought a new GeForce GTX 550 Ti card. I used to > > have a 9800GT but it broke, so I've been using or a month or so the onboard > > ATI HD3200. And I've been recompiling E

Re: [e-users] E16/E17 feature parity

2012-07-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:43:27 -0400 The Wanderer said: > On 07/29/2012 09:35 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > e16 and e17 are not even the same wm - e17 is a new wm entirely, thus don't > > expect it to have the same config options, nor even work the same way. > > I don't; I do

Re: [e-users] E16/E17 feature parity

2012-07-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 20:22:05 +0300 (EEST) Robert Krambovitis said: > - Original Message - > From: "The Wanderer" > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 6:59:00 PM > Subject: Re: [e-users] E16/E17 feature parity > > On 07/29/2012 11:12 AM, Wido wrote

Re: [e-users] Poor openGL performance

2012-07-29 Thread The Wanderer
On 07/29/2012 12:17 PM, Wido wrote: > Hi folks. I've recently bought a new GeForce GTX 550 Ti card. I used to have > a 9800GT but it broke, so I've been using or a month or so the onboard ATI > HD3200. And I've been recompiling E during all this time. > > > What I'm noticing is that when I had t

Re: [e-users] Poor openGL performance

2012-07-29 Thread thomasg
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Wido wrote: > Hi folks. I've recently bought a new GeForce GTX 550 Ti card. I used to have > a 9800GT but it broke, so I've been using or a month or so the onboard ATI > HD3200. And I've been recompiling E during all this time. > > > What I'm noticing is that whe

Re: [e-users] E16/E17 feature parity

2012-07-29 Thread Robert Krambovitis
- Original Message - From: "The Wanderer" To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 6:59:00 PM Subject: Re: [e-users] E16/E17 feature parity On 07/29/2012 11:12 AM, Wido wrote: > On Sunday July 29 2012 11:43:27 The Wanderer escribió: > >> On 07/29/2012 09:

[e-users] Poor openGL performance

2012-07-29 Thread Wido
Hi folks. I've recently bought a new GeForce GTX 550 Ti card. I used to have a 9800GT but it broke, so I've been using or a month or so the onboard ATI HD3200. And I've been recompiling E during all this time. What I'm noticing is that when I had the 9800GT I had a really good GL performance,

Re: [e-users] E16/E17 feature parity

2012-07-29 Thread The Wanderer
On 07/29/2012 11:12 AM, Wido wrote: > On Sunday July 29 2012 11:43:27 The Wanderer escribió: > >> On 07/29/2012 09:35 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >>> as such e17 has a boat-load of options already and is perfectly usable, >>> and imho much more usable than e16. it simply needs po

Re: [e-users] E16/E17 feature parity

2012-07-29 Thread Wido
On Sunday July 29 2012 11:43:27 The Wanderer escribió: > On 07/29/2012 09:35 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > e16 and e17 are not even the same wm - e17 is a new wm entirely, thus don't > > expect it to have the same config options, nor even work the same way. > > I don't; I do

Re: [e-users] E16/E17 feature parity

2012-07-29 Thread The Wanderer
On 07/29/2012 09:35 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > e16 and e17 are not even the same wm - e17 is a new wm entirely, thus don't > expect it to have the same config options, nor even work the same way. I don't; I do know that E17 is entirely new. I simply figured that as it developed

Re: [e-users] E16/E17 feature parity

2012-07-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:16:09 -0400 The Wanderer said: e16 and e17 are not even the same wm - e17 is a new wm entirely, thus don't expect it to have the same config options, nor even work the same way. certain things have just been dropped as they are "not useful" or "painful to support" or confli

[e-users] E16/E17 feature parity

2012-07-29 Thread The Wanderer
I am a long-time user of E16. From time to time, I've tried out E17 to see whether it might be suitable, on the grounds that A: why not, and B: if E16 ever does "go away" for lack of maintenance, a suitable substitute would be needed. However, I have never been able to configure E17 into anything s