Re: [git pull] drm request 3

2010-03-07 Thread tytso
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 11:28:16AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Sergio Monteiro Basto wrote: > > > On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 09:40 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > Why are people making excuses for bad programming and bad technology? > > > > Is not bad technology is new

Re: [git pull] drm request 3

2010-03-07 Thread tytso
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 08:52:35PM +, Alan Cox wrote: > > They want the benefits of lots of testers, without wanting to be > > courteous to those testers. > > Except for the small rather important detail that the Nouveau developers > didn't ask for it to be merged in the first place. > *Some

Re: [git pull] drm request 3

2010-03-05 Thread tytso
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 11:38:46AM -0800, Corbin Simpson wrote: > If distros want to run weird experiments on their users, let them! > Sure, sometimes bad things happen, but sometimes good things happen > too. ConsoleKit, DeviceKit, HAL, NetworkManager, KMS, yaird, dracut, > Plymouth, the list goes

Re: [git pull] drm request 3

2010-03-05 Thread tytso
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 05:04:14PM +, Alan Cox wrote: > You can only see it as malicious if you assume they ever had some reason > to keep compatibility or had promised it somewhere. Quite the reverse > happened, and they never asked to be upstream in the first place. The reason why this threa

Re: [git pull] drm request 3

2010-03-05 Thread tytso
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 06:04:34PM +0200, Daniel Stone wrote: > > So you're saying that there's no way to develop any reasonable body of > code for the Linux kernel without committing to keeping your ABI > absolutely rock-solid stable for eternity, no exceptions, ever? Cool, > that worked really w

Re: [git pull] drm

2009-12-11 Thread tytso
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 08:20:57PM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > > Well the main thing was I wasn't mean to discuss possible legal issues > and still don't have permission, you know as well as I do once lawyers are > involved you have to keep out of things until they deal with them. The thing which