Re: [Dri-devel] S3TC

2002-12-19 Thread Andy Ross
Ian Romanick wrote: > Andy Ross wrote: > > And there is no one involved with DRI with assets to pay such an > > award anyway. > > Except all the distros. How is that an argument against DRI implementing S3TC? If the distribution vendors don't want to ship it because o

Re: [Dri-devel] S3TC

2002-12-19 Thread Andy Ross
magenta wrote: > But they're not transferring the license to others, they're just > providing a reference implementation. nVidia themselves wouldn't be > sued for it, but someone releasing new software using that > implementation could be. By that same logic, DRI can't be sued for providing the c

Re: [Dri-devel] S3TC

2002-12-19 Thread Andy Ross
magenta wrote: > You don't understand how patents work, do you? All of those people > (except OpenIL, anyway) have licensed the algorithm itself. The > algorithm is freely-available (it's even part of the patent > documents). The problem is that S3 haven't released the patent to the > public dom

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-17 Thread Andy Ross
Ian Romanick wrote: > Heh...look at demos/texwrap.c in Mesa. This does basically the same > thing, but it enumerates all of the advertised modes, even the > various mirror modes. Silly me. Why bother trying to learn about something and share the knowlege when I could have just... what, exactly?

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-17 Thread Andy Ross
Keith Whitwell wrote: > Andy Ross wrote: > > ATI blows you guys away in glxgears. I see 38% faster frame rates > > with their drivers. > > Actually what gears does most is glClear and glXSwapBuffers, with a > small amount of glCallList. You can speed up swapbuffers by tu

Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-16 Thread Andy Ross
Keith Whitwell wrote: > Andy Ross wrote: > > Is it possible [...] to get the client-side libGL to look somethere > > *other* that /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri for drivers? > > It's LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH Perfect. Thanks. > > You also don't exhibit a texture bor

[Dri-devel] R200 notes & issues

2002-12-16 Thread Andy Ross
I finally got a chance over the weekend to try out the current DRI code on my new 8500 card and compare it with the offering from ATI. The following is a cheers & jeers style review. Hopefully someone will find it helpful. My setup: 950MHz Athlon (early/pre-thunderbird), KT133 motherboard, OEM 85

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 9000 patch

2002-10-29 Thread Andy Ross
Scott Harrison wrote: > Thought you might like to apply the patch so others can have DRI on > the Radeon 9000 and 9700 cards. Question from the peanut gallery: does this work with the 9700? I was under the impression that the 9000 was just a modified R200, which might be expected to be software-c