Re: [Dri-devel] Understanding the internals of a X11/OpenGL Based Program (Using 3D Direct Rendering)

2002-06-12 Thread Jens Owen
Smitty wrote: > > Howzit Jens? > > 3 Parts to this email. > > 1.) MK II: > _ > \ > +-+ | > | X11/OpenGL Based Application | | > | (Using 3D Direct Ren

Re: [Dri-devel] Default AGP mode

2002-06-12 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, David S. Miller wrote: > Basically, someone has asked for me to default AGPMode to 4 in > our config file, which I thought was absolutely crazy. The claim > is that AGP defaulted to 1x, but changing it to 4x sped things up > dramatically. That is what lead me to

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Jacek Rosik
Keith Whitwell wrote: > Jacek Rosik wrote: > >> >> >> Dieter Nützel wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday 12 June 2002 20:53, Alan Hourihane wrote: >>> [-] >>> We really need to clean up the stuff on SF now. Probably about 90% don't even apply now, or should at least be re-tested. >>> >>> Y

Re: [Dri-devel] Default AGP mode

2002-06-12 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, David S. Miller wrote: > From: Jeff Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 21:57:31 -0500 > > Actually, its most safe to default to AGP mode 1x. If we aren't > switching modes correctly there is a bug in that agp driver, and I'd > like to know abou

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Keith Whitwell
Jacek Rosik wrote: > > > Dieter Nützel wrote: > >> On Wednesday 12 June 2002 20:53, Alan Hourihane wrote: >> [-] >> >>> We really need to clean up the stuff on SF now. Probably about 90% >>> don't even apply now, or should at least be re-tested. >>> >> >> Yes, let's start with that. >> There ar

Re: [Dri-devel] Mach64 2D accel fixed!

2002-06-12 Thread Jens Owen
Leif Delgass wrote: > I got 2D accel working. VT and mode switches > also work now without locking up. Good catch, Leif. [...] > OK, now for the bad news: the driver currently allocates only 128 > scanlines for the XAA pixmap cache and offscreen pixmaps. This is what > the calculations for

Re: [Dri-devel] Mach64 2D accel fixed!

2002-06-12 Thread José Fonseca
On 2002.06.13 05:18 Leif Delgass wrote: > Well, I had a "Eureka!" moment and figured out the problem with 2D accel, > which was also the cause of the signal 11 on server shutdown. "Hidden" > in > atiaccel.c there is a second initialization of the framebuffer manager > that was causing XAA to use

Re: [Dri-devel] radeon 2 app crash

2002-06-12 Thread Keith Whitwell
Michael wrote: > I've just noticed some combinations of 2 apps running at once causes > hangs (well, I had glxgears minimised and had forgotten and ran q3) > > A wild stab in the dark. > > When we currently send a cmd buffer something like this :- > > app 1 packet 1

Re: [Dri-devel] Mach64 2D accel fixed!

2002-06-12 Thread Keith Whitwell
> OK, now for the bad news: the driver currently allocates only 128 > scanlines for the XAA pixmap cache and offscreen pixmaps. This is what > the calculations for the size of the local texture area have been based > on. To get good 2D performance, we should probably allocate a full > view

[Dri-devel] Re: [Dri-patches] CVS Update: xc (branch: mach64-0-0-4-branch)

2002-06-12 Thread Keith Whitwell
Leif Delgass wrote: > CVSROOT: /cvsroot/dri > Module name: xc > Repository: xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/ > Changes by: ldelgass@usw-pr-cvs1. 02/06/12 20:48:11 > > Log message: > Fixed and enbled 2D acceleration. Also ATIDRIInitBuffers and ATIDRIMoveBuffers > are

[Dri-devel] Re: [Dri-patches] [ dri-Patches-567160 ] Radeon lockups with to many cliprects.

2002-06-12 Thread Keith Whitwell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Patches item #567160, was opened at 2002-06-11 02:58 > You can respond by visiting: > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=300387&aid=567160&group_id=387 > > Category: None > Group: None > Status: Open > Resolution: None > Priority: 5 > Submitted By: Jacek

Re: [Dri-devel] Strange behavior of the TCL branch

2002-06-12 Thread Keith Whitwell
> > > When I run any OpenGL game like say , RTCW or Q3 or > even something with Wine (like JD2) I get rather poor > performance. > > While playing any of the OGL games the frame rates > aren't stable, approximtly once a second the game > pauses for a small amoun

Re: [Dri-devel] Default AGP mode

2002-06-12 Thread David S. Miller
From: "Mike A. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 21:39:23 -0400 (EDT) Basically, someone has asked for me to default AGPMode to 4 in our config file, which I thought was absolutely crazy. The claim is that AGP defaulted to 1x, but changing it to 4x sped thing

Re: [Dri-devel] Default AGP mode

2002-06-12 Thread David S. Miller
From: Jeff Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 21:57:31 -0500 Actually, its most safe to default to AGP mode 1x. If we aren't switching modes correctly there is a bug in that agp driver, and I'd like to know about it. Try to enable 4X in BIOS of SiS Athlon chips

[Dri-devel] Mach64 2D accel fixed!

2002-06-12 Thread Leif Delgass
Well, I had a "Eureka!" moment and figured out the problem with 2D accel, which was also the cause of the signal 11 on server shutdown. "Hidden" in atiaccel.c there is a second initialization of the framebuffer manager that was causing XAA to use the entire offscreen area (including our back, dep

Re: [Dri-devel] Default AGP mode

2002-06-12 Thread Jeff Hartmann
Mike A. Harris wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, David S. Miller wrote: > >> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 18:08:37 -0700 (PDT) >> From: David S. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii >> Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] Default AG

[Dri-devel] Strange behavior of the TCL branch

2002-06-12 Thread Slava Polyakov
I have an ATI Radeon LE (which is pretty much the same card as the ATI Radeon DDR but only with 32megs of DDR ram not 64). Specifically: Linux misato 2.4.19-pre10 #1 Tue Jun 4 04:44:29 EDT 2002 i686 unknown using: XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (DRI trunk) / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revisi

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Mike Mestnik
--- David Willmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Keith Whitwell wrote: > > OK, maybe I'm getting carried away. > > > > But as I see it, there aren't many people in total on dri_devel+dri_users. > > The only people who can really answer dri_users questions are on dri_devel > > anyway. Why h

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Mike Mestnik
--- José Fonseca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2002.06.12 18:49 Keith Whitwell wrote: > > ... > > > > I totally disagree here... > > > > > That class of power users haven't really emerged, if anything it is the > > power users who are crying for help in the blackness of dri-users, as > >

Re: [Dri-devel] Default AGP mode

2002-06-12 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, David S. Miller wrote: >Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 18:08:37 -0700 (PDT) >From: David S. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii >Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] Default AGP mode > > From: "Mike A. Harris" <[E

Re: [Dri-devel] Default AGP mode

2002-06-12 Thread David S. Miller
From: "Mike A. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 20:35:15 -0400 (EDT) It would appear that AGP mode 1x is used by default always unless the AGPmode option is specified in the config file. (Correct me if I'm not completely correct with that). I'm wondering

Re: [Dri-devel] Default AGP mode

2002-06-12 Thread Michael
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 08:35:15PM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: > It would appear that AGP mode 1x is used by default always unless > the AGPmode option is specified in the config file. (Correct me > if I'm not completely correct with that). > > I'm wondering if the default can be changed to b

[Dri-devel] Default AGP mode

2002-06-12 Thread Mike A. Harris
It would appear that AGP mode 1x is used by default always unless the AGPmode option is specified in the config file. (Correct me if I'm not completely correct with that). I'm wondering if the default can be changed to be "the fastest sane mode supported by the hardware and/or configured by t

[Dri-devel] radeon 2 app crash

2002-06-12 Thread Michael
I've just noticed some combinations of 2 apps running at once causes hangs (well, I had glxgears minimised and had forgotten and ran q3) A wild stab in the dark. When we currently send a cmd buffer something like this :- app 1 packet 1 app2 packet 1 5 (LOAD_VBPNTR)

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Jacek Rosik
Dieter Nützel wrote: > On Wednesday 12 June 2002 20:53, Alan Hourihane wrote: > [-] > >>We really need to clean up the stuff on SF now. Probably about 90% >>don't even apply now, or should at least be re-tested. >> > > Yes, let's start with that. > There are even several bugs for which the sen

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: tcl branch merge

2002-06-12 Thread Keith Whitwell
> > And the below trunk file should look like this, again: > > xc/xc/lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/Imakefile > > SUBDIRS = common DriDrivers > > _NOT_ > > SUBDIRS = common radeon Done. Thanks. Keith ___ Sponsored by: ThinkGeek at http:/

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon problems with rendering into front buffer.

2002-06-12 Thread Keith Whitwell
Jacek Rosik wrote: > Hi. > > I've recently compiled new code with tcl-branch merged. I've encountered > problem when rendering into front buffer and having double-buffered > visual. It seems that glDrawBuffer must be called ech time after > radeonUpdatePageFlipping or the app starts rendering

[Dri-devel] Re: tcl branch merge

2002-06-12 Thread Dieter Nützel
Brian Paul wrote: > Keith Whitwell wrote: > > Keith Whitwell wrote: > > > >> Although we still have a couple of bugs & a lockup on the tcl branch, > >> the situation is in general better than what's on the trunk & I'd like > >> to get that code merged now. This will also help get the 8500 bran

[Dri-devel] Radeon problems with rendering into front buffer.

2002-06-12 Thread Jacek Rosik
Hi. I've recently compiled new code with tcl-branch merged. I've encountered problem when rendering into front buffer and having double-buffered visual. It seems that glDrawBuffer must be called ech time after radeonUpdatePageFlipping or the app starts rendering into back buffer. My guess is

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread John J. Tobin
> > There aren't a great number of dri_users questions anyway and a good=20 > percentage of them probably should be on dri_devel as it stands now (they= > 're=20 > proper bugs, or whatever). > > So, I guess I still think the second list: > - doesn't serve it's intended audience well >

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread David Willmore
> Keith Whitwell wrote: > OK, maybe I'm getting carried away. > > But as I see it, there aren't many people in total on dri_devel+dri_users. > The only people who can really answer dri_users questions are on dri_devel > anyway. Why have two lists? > > There aren't a great number of dri_users

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread José Fonseca
On 2002.06.12 21:53 Alan Hourihane wrote: > On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 02:28:45 -0600, Jens Owen wrote: > > ... > > > > I'm certainly as guilty as anyone for letting the cruft build up in the > > SF bug tracker. However, from a TG commercial perspective, I will need > > to closely track all bugs spe

Re: [Dri-devel] Status of AMD 760MP + Radeon lockups?

2002-06-12 Thread Wayne Whitney
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Linus Torvalds wrote: > If you have an AMD system and have seen problems with GART usage, and > are willing to test out stuff, please give this a try. I'd love to hear > actual user reports about whether this actually solves any problems. The "DRI lockup on switching console

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Brian Paul
Dieter Nützel wrote: > On Wednesday 12 June 2002 20:53, Alan Hourihane wrote: > [-] > >>We really need to clean up the stuff on SF now. Probably about 90% >>don't even apply now, or should at least be re-tested. > > > Yes, let's start with that. > There are even several bugs for which the sende

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Adam K Kirchhoff
For what it's worth, it runs great now here. I've actually finished a game or two without any lockups. Adam On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Michael wrote: > On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 12:57:37PM -0400, Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > > > > Two quick questions :-) > > > > First, can anyone tell me if the issue

[Dri-devel] Re: tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Adam Duck
> "j" == j r fonseca writes: j> In theory, dri-devel should be mainly for communication between all j> developers and beta-testers. The dri-users should be for everybody else. j> This is what I see in many other projects and it works quite well. Giving the stage of the (e.g. R

Re: [Dri-devel] tcl branch merge

2002-06-12 Thread Brian Paul
Keith Whitwell wrote: > Keith Whitwell wrote: > >> Although we still have a couple of bugs & a lockup on the tcl branch, >> the situation is in general better than what's on the trunk & I'd like >> to get that code merged now. This will also help get the 8500 branch >> started. >> > > OK. I

[Dri-devel] Re: tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Dieter Nützel
On Wednesday 12 June 2002 20:53, Alan Hourihane wrote: [-] > We really need to clean up the stuff on SF now. Probably about 90% > don't even apply now, or should at least be re-tested. Yes, let's start with that. There are even several bugs for which the sender asked for closing but never happen

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 02:28:45 -0600, Jens Owen wrote: > "Peter Soetens (Kaltan)" wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 12 June 2002 19:49, Keith Whitwell wrote: > > > > > > The dri-users list was founded on the idea that there might be a class of > > > 'power users' out there who would altruistically he

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Jens Owen
"Peter Soetens (Kaltan)" wrote: > > On Wednesday 12 June 2002 19:49, Keith Whitwell wrote: > > > > The dri-users list was founded on the idea that there might be a class of > > 'power users' out there who would altruistically help newbies get their > > setup working so that 'real developers' coul

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Peter Soetens (Kaltan)
On Wednesday 12 June 2002 19:49, Keith Whitwell wrote: > > The dri-users list was founded on the idea that there might be a class of > 'power users' out there who would altruistically help newbies get their > setup working so that 'real developers' could concentrate on loftier ideas. > > That clas

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Michael
> I personally think we shouldn't do this, but I'll go for what the majority > decides - after all it's what's the majority will do in the end that will > really matter. So, speak up now, or forever remain quiet... I think if someone posts a good bug report, maybe even 1/2 a fix and is willing

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 07:31:29 +0100, Keith Whitwell wrote: > >Yeah! Let's burn Rome! ;o) > > OK, maybe I'm getting carried away. > > But as I see it, there aren't many people in total on dri_devel+dri_users. > The only people who can really answer dri_users questions are on dri_devel > anyw

Re: [Dri-devel] Understanding the internals of a X11/OpenGL Based Program (Using 3D Direct Rendering)

2002-06-12 Thread Smitty
Howzit Jens? 3 Parts to this email. 1.) MK II: _ \ +-+ | | X11/OpenGL Based Application | | | (Using 3D Direct Rendering) | | +-

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread José Fonseca
On 2002.06.12 19:31 Keith Whitwell wrote: > José Fonseca wrote: >> ... >> >> >> To separate the development issues from, .e.g, installation problems. I >> personally wouldn't like to have my dri-devel mbox full with cryies for >> help - if that happened I effectively would make my procmail sep

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Keith Whitwell
José Fonseca wrote: > On 2002.06.12 18:49 Keith Whitwell wrote: > >> ... >> > > I totally disagree here... > >> The dri-users list was founded on the idea that there might be a class >> of 'power users' out there who would altruistically help newbies get >> their setup working so that 'real d

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread José Fonseca
On 2002.06.12 18:49 Keith Whitwell wrote: > ... > I totally disagree here... > The dri-users list was founded on the idea that there might be a class > of 'power users' out there who would altruistically help newbies get > their setup working so that 'real developers' could concentrate on >

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread José Fonseca
On 2002.06.12 18:42 Keith Whitwell wrote: > ... > > I'm just in general not a big fan of the bug tracker. I've got a bunch > of bugs that I can choose from at any time without having to go through > some web form that requires me to log in and wait for slow queries. It > doesn't give *me* an

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Keith Whitwell
José Fonseca wrote: > On 2002.06.12 17:57 Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > >> >> Two quick questions :-) >> >> First, can anyone tell me if the issues with tuxkart and the Radeon >> driver >> from the TCL branch (well, now the trunk) have been fixed? >> >> Secondly, does anyone regularly go through the

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Keith Whitwell
José Fonseca wrote: > On 2002.06.12 17:57 Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > >> >> Two quick questions :-) >> >> First, can anyone tell me if the issues with tuxkart and the Radeon >> driver >> from the TCL branch (well, now the trunk) have been fixed? >> >> Secondly, does anyone regularly go through the

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread José Fonseca
On 2002.06.12 17:57 Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > > Two quick questions :-) > > First, can anyone tell me if the issues with tuxkart and the Radeon > driver > from the TCL branch (well, now the trunk) have been fixed? > > Secondly, does anyone regularly go through the bug reports on > sourceforge?

Re: [Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Michael
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 12:57:37PM -0400, Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: > > Two quick questions :-) > > First, can anyone tell me if the issues with tuxkart and the Radeon driver > from the TCL branch (well, now the trunk) have been fixed? Keith fixed a problem with line loops that was causing crashe

[Dri-devel] tuxkart, and bug reports..

2002-06-12 Thread Adam K Kirchhoff
Two quick questions :-) First, can anyone tell me if the issues with tuxkart and the Radeon driver from the TCL branch (well, now the trunk) have been fixed? Secondly, does anyone regularly go through the bug reports on sourceforge? There are a huge number of bug reports, some from over two yea

Re: [Dri-devel] tcl branch merge

2002-06-12 Thread Keith Whitwell
José Fonseca wrote: > On 2002.06.12 17:01 Keith Whitwell wrote: > >> Keith Whitwell wrote: >> >>> Although we still have a couple of bugs & a lockup on the tcl branch, >>> the situation is in general better than what's on the trunk & I'd >>> like to get that code merged now. This will also hel

Re: [Dri-devel] tcl branch merge

2002-06-12 Thread José Fonseca
On 2002.06.12 17:01 Keith Whitwell wrote: > Keith Whitwell wrote: >> Although we still have a couple of bugs & a lockup on the tcl branch, >> the situation is in general better than what's on the trunk & I'd like >> to get that code merged now. This will also help get the 8500 branch >> starte

Re: [Dri-devel] tcl branch merge

2002-06-12 Thread Keith Whitwell
Keith Whitwell wrote: > Although we still have a couple of bugs & a lockup on the tcl branch, > the situation is in general better than what's on the trunk & I'd like > to get that code merged now. This will also help get the 8500 branch > started. > OK. It's merged. Keith __

Re: [Dri-devel] Matrox G400/450 PCI support

2002-06-12 Thread Ville Syrjälä
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 07:37:19PM +0100, José Fonseca wrote: > On 2002.06.10 18:32 Ville Syrjälä wrote: > > Here's my understanding of the situation. Someone more enlightened should > > correct me if I'm wrong. > > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 04:22:11PM +, Gareth Knight wrote: > > > I am int

[Dri-devel] Re: tcl branch merge

2002-06-12 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Keith Whitwell wrote: >Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:56:16 +0100 >From: Keith Whitwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: dri-devel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed >List-Id: >Subject: tcl branch merge > >Although we still have a couple of bug

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Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Ring lockups on mach64

2002-06-12 Thread José Fonseca
On 2002.06.12 03:49 Leif Delgass wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, José Fonseca wrote: > > ... > > > > Please, let's not discuss this further. I think we both agree that > using a > > variable is the best wat to go, isn't it? > > Each and every processor cycle must be precisely documented and account