Re: [Dri-devel] All those parties... Mach64 non AGP DRI support?

2002-01-30 Thread Shawn Starr
GNOME 1.4.x still, but running TuxRacer totally blew up X/system. I compared this to win2k and it just blew it out of the water HARD :( On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Shawn Starr wrote: > > > > > I dont know if this is coming, or if there's any interes

Re: [Xpert]RE: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 andpossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Allen Akin
On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 08:27:49PM -0700, Jens Owen wrote: | This is no joke. We absolutely need compatability. Large amounts of | developer pain don't even begin to compare to the enormous number of | headaches incompatability causes our users. Not to mention that Linus will almost certainly t

Re: [Dri-devel] All those parties... Mach64 non AGP DRI support?

2002-01-30 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Shawn Starr wrote: > > I dont know if this is coming, or if there's any interest. But X just > *dies* using the CPU to redraw 2D and 3D just isn't even worth using on > this P200. > > I have a Mach64 chipset: > > ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage I/II 215GT [Mach64 GT] (rev 41)

[Dri-devel] All those parties... Mach64 non AGP DRI support?

2002-01-30 Thread Shawn Starr
I dont know if this is coming, or if there's any interest. But X just *dies* using the CPU to redraw 2D and 3D just isn't even worth using on this P200. I have a Mach64 chipset: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage I/II 215GT [Mach64 GT] (rev 41) 2MB There is no DRI support for this card (at the momen

Re: [Xpert]RE: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 andpossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Jens Owen
Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > As for Linus not wanting to accept it, 2.4 has dropped most nat filters > except for ftp and most of them aren't back yet. So I don't buy this > argument. Vladimir, This is no joke. We absolutely need compatability. Large amounts of developer pain don't even begin

RE: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 andp ossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Gareth Hughes wrote: > > Gareth, the current driver is broken. If someone wants to use video > > capture they _need_ both GATOS 2d driver and GATOS drm driver, period. > > > > What's so wrong about upgrading ? > > Guaranteed, someone will get a mismatch -- your changes may

Re: [Dri-devel] unsubsrcibed from list

2002-01-30 Thread Frank Worsley
Ok, I will just put a link from the Documentation page to your website. That way you can just update the docs on your end. Is that ok? It would also be nice if the IRC meeting logs were available on the website. The easiest way would probably be to add a new FAQ section for that and add every new

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2002-01-30 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Alexander Stohr wrote: > > Does anyone have any news on support for iDCT and > > Motion-Compensation or any of the video related > > features of the radeons? Do the reference drivers > > from ATi have anything for these features? Just > > curious. > > > > Thanks, > > > >

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2002-01-30 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
iDCT and MC is not support. Tv-in and YUV->RGB overlay and scaling are. See http://gatos.sf.net/ Vladimir Dergachev On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Alex Deucher wrote: > Does anyone have any news on support for iDCT and > Motion-Compensation or any of the video related > features

RE: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 andp ossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Gareth Hughes
> Gareth, the current driver is broken. If someone wants to use video > capture they _need_ both GATOS 2d driver and GATOS drm driver, period. > > What's so wrong about upgrading ? Guaranteed, someone will get a mismatch -- your changes may go back into the stock kernel, breaking DRI CVS or what

RE: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 andpossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Gareth Hughes wrote: > > The assumption was only made for experimental GATOS drivers. It is a > > practical one. More people come and ask: "I upgraded to GATOS driver and > > DRI won't work anymore !" Answer: RTFM, upgrade drm driver. > > It's already been determined that:

RE: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 andpossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Gareth Hughes
> The assumption was only made for experimental GATOS drivers. It is a > practical one. More people come and ask: "I upgraded to GATOS driver and > DRI won't work anymore !" Answer: RTFM, upgrade drm driver. It's already been determined that: "I just upgraded my kernel, and DRI won't work anymor

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128andpossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Keith Whitwell wrote: > Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > > On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Daryll Strauss wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 03:15:53PM -0500, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > > I completely agree with you.. but I did not give you details :)) > > > > > > > > What h

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128andpossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Keith Whitwell wrote: > Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > > On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Daryll Strauss wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 02:05:42PM -0500, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > > Regardless of the way it is merged the driver major version will need to > > > > be bum

[Dri-devel] Re: [Xpert]XFree86 NDA documentation

2002-01-30 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On 30 Jan 2002, Jose Fonseca wrote: > I've decided to add some pertinent comments from Mike Harris regarding > the availability of documentation under NDA to the DRI Devel FAQ ( > http://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/~jfonseca/dri/faq/html/hardware.html#ATI-SPECS ) > > In the comments Mike makes strong re

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 andpossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Keith Whitwell
Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Daryll Strauss wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 03:15:53PM -0500, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > I completely agree with you.. but I did not give you details :)) > > > > > > What happens is that if you try to use older drm driver with GATOS

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Keith Whitwell
Daryll Strauss wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 03:15:53PM -0500, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > I completely agree with you.. but I did not give you details :)) > > > > What happens is that if you try to use older drm driver with GATOS 2d > > driver the GATOS driver will notice and complain. Bu

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 andpossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Keith Whitwell
Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Daryll Strauss wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 02:05:42PM -0500, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > Regardless of the way it is merged the driver major version will need to > > > be bumped. GATOS drivers does this but only minor - as I did not

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 andpossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Daryll Strauss wrote: > On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 03:15:53PM -0500, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > I completely agree with you.. but I did not give you details :)) > > > > What happens is that if you try to use older drm driver with GATOS 2d > > driver the GATOS driver will no

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 03:15:53PM -0500, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > I completely agree with you.. but I did not give you details :)) > > What happens is that if you try to use older drm driver with GATOS 2d > driver the GATOS driver will notice and complain. But if you use GATOS drm > driver wi

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 andpossibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Daryll Strauss wrote: > On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 02:05:42PM -0500, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > Regardless of the way it is merged the driver major version will need to > > be bumped. GATOS drivers does this but only minor - as I did not want to > > upload a mesa radeon dri

[Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeon DMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread deek
Vladimir Dergachev scribbled: > >> >>Come on Vladimir, I'm not green. :-P >> > > My bad,.. correct code turned out not to work.. Especially if you commit > without testing (I had 8500DV board in). > You're fogiven, this time... > Could you please try again ? > > Vl

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 02:05:42PM -0500, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > Regardless of the way it is merged the driver major version will need to > be bumped. GATOS drivers does this but only minor - as I did not want to > upload a mesa radeon driver just because of the version change. I'm afraid I

[Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Morgan Collins
On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 11:14, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > My bad,.. correct code turned out not to work.. Especially if you commit > without testing (I had 8500DV board in). > > Could you please try again ? That seams to have fixed it. -- Morgan Collins http://sirmorcant.morcant.org Crypto D

[Dri-devel] Re: [Xpert]XFree86 NDA documentation

2002-01-30 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
Perhaps someone should just ask them politely to release their docs to XFree86 project as a whole. They were certainly doing that before and, if anything, they were much more cooperative w.r.t. documentation lately. I could certainly do it,.. but perhaps someone more "official".

[Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
> > > > > Come on Vladimir, I'm not green. :-P My bad,.. correct code turned out not to work.. Especially if you commit without testing (I had 8500DV board in). Could you please try again ? Vladimir Dergachev > > I even checked out a fresh CVS copy of ati.2 and > drm-ke

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Keith Whitwell wrote: > Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > > On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, deek wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Vladimir Dergachev scribbled: > > > > > > > <__snipped_> > > > >> > > > > > > > > I've implemented this (easier than software CCE) scheme. If you want to > > > >

[Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, deek wrote: > > > Vladimir Dergachev scribbled: > > > > > On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, deek wrote: > > > > > >> > >>Vladimir Dergachev scribbled: > >> > >> > >>><__snipped_> > >>> > >>>I've implemented this (easier than software CCE) scheme. If you want to > >>>please try the lates

[Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Morgan Collins
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, deek wrote: > > > Vladimir Dergachev scribbled: > > > > > On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, deek wrote: > > > > > >> > >>Vladimir Dergachev scribbled: > >> > >> > >>><__snipped_> > >>> > >>>I've implemented this (easier than software CCE) scheme. If you want to > >>>please try the lates

[Dri-devel] XFree86 NDA documentation

2002-01-30 Thread Jose Fonseca
I've decided to add some pertinent comments from Mike Harris regarding the availability of documentation under NDA to the DRI Devel FAQ ( http://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/~jfonseca/dri/faq/html/hardware.html#ATI-SPECS ) In the comments Mike makes strong reference to join as XFree86 developer as a mean

Re: [Dri-devel] Is the XFree86 4.2.0 merge into the mesa-4-0-branch under way, too?

2002-01-30 Thread Brian Paul
Dieter Nützel wrote: > > Or is all together merged into the trunk? I'm not sure if David's finished merging XFree86 4.2 into the DRI trunk or not. When he's done with that, we'll probably merge the DRI trunk into the DRI mesa_4_0_branch. Then, when the branch is in good shape, merge it back in

[Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeon DMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread deek
Vladimir Dergachev scribbled: > > On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, deek wrote: > > >> >>Vladimir Dergachev scribbled: >> >> >>><__snipped_> >>> >>>I've implemented this (easier than software CCE) scheme. If you want to >>>please try the latest ati.2 CVS code at http://gatos.sf.net - or just take >>>a lo

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Keith Whitwell
Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, deek wrote: > > > > > > > Vladimir Dergachev scribbled: > > > > > <__snipped_> > > >> > > > > > > I've implemented this (easier than software CCE) scheme. If you want to > > > please try the latest ati.2 CVS code at http://gatos.sf.net - or just

Re: [Dri-devel] chown /dev/dri/card0, system crashes

2002-01-30 Thread Jim Carter
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Bill Currie wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 04:46:32PM -0800, Jim Carter wrote: > > However, when the current user did not have permission to write on card0 > > (due to mode 0660 group video, the default provided by SuSE SaX2) > > Wouldn't it be better to add the user to grou

[Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, deek wrote: > > > Vladimir Dergachev scribbled: > > > <__snipped_> > >> > > > > I've implemented this (easier than software CCE) scheme. If you want to > > please try the latest ati.2 CVS code at http://gatos.sf.net - or just take > > a look at it. > > > > Basically I put i

[Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeon DMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread deek
Vladimir Dergachev scribbled: > <__snipped_> >> > > I've implemented this (easier than software CCE) scheme. If you want to > please try the latest ati.2 CVS code at http://gatos.sf.net - or just take > a look at it. > > Basically I put in info->accel->Sync(pScrn) at entrance points into Xv >

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2002-01-30 Thread Alexander Stohr
> Does anyone have any news on support for iDCT and > Motion-Compensation or any of the video related > features of the radeons? Do the reference drivers > from ATi have anything for these features? Just > curious. > > Thanks, > > Alex So far i do know, there should be a solution for your pro

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2002-01-30 Thread Alex Deucher
Does anyone have any news on support for iDCT and Motion-Compensation or any of the video related features of the radeons? Do the reference drivers from ATi have anything for these features? Just curious. Thanks, Alex --- Jose Fonseca wrote: > > On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 14:17, J

[Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > On 30 Jan 2002, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: > > > On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 15:30, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 28 Jan 2002, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 10:00, Vladimir Dergachev w

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On 30 Jan 2002, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: > On Mit, 2002-01-30 at 10:32, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > > On 30 Jan 2002, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: > > > > > > Btw, while I've been sleeping I thought how we could get CCE support into > > > > Xvideo. The thing I am really agains

[Dri-devel] Britney and Justin's Personal Video Stolen

2002-01-30 Thread
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Re: [Dri-devel] unsubsrcibed from list

2002-01-30 Thread Jose Fonseca
Frank, I've put up a developer FAQ for DRI. It's really just developer oriented so it's complementary to the existing FAQ. In the IRC meeting it was agreed that it should be on the DRI website and its source on CVS. Only the SGML source is on CVS. At this moment I still publicize in it that the

RE: [Dri-devel] chown /dev/dri/card0, system crashes

2002-01-30 Thread Alexander Stohr
> It's puzzling that chown-chmod would have any baleful effect. > With a plain > file, once you've opened it you can monkey with the inode all > you want and > the filehandle remains valid, and similarly with devfs the > various device > inodes (/dev/misc/psaux, modem TTY, etc.) can be chowned

[Dri-devel] Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeon DMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mit, 2002-01-30 at 10:32, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > On 30 Jan 2002, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: > > > > Btw, while I've been sleeping I thought how we could get CCE support into > > > Xvideo. The thing I am really against is duplicating code for case with > > > CCE and without. > >

[Dri-devel] Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeon DMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On 30 Jan 2002, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: > On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 15:30, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > > > > On 28 Jan 2002, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 10:00, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 28 Jan 2002, Michel [ISO-8859-1] D

[Dri-devel] Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeon DMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 15:30, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > On 28 Jan 2002, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: > > > On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 10:00, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 28 Jan 2002, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 04:54, Davor Buvini