[DNG] ..tails boum boum boum: Tails 2.0 is out, systemd "coup d'etat" against torproject.org?

2016-01-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Hi, ..highlights in: https://tails.boum.org/about/index.en.html "Tails is a live system that aims to preserve your privacy and anonymity. It helps you to use the Internet anonymously and circumvent censorship almost anywhere you go and on any computer but leaving no trace unless you ask it to exp

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

2016-01-27 Thread Brad Campbell
On 27/01/16 23:57, Simon Hobson wrote: Wim wrote: I still have my previous model, I suppose I ought to try a native install on it - and perhaps see if I can get OS X running as a VM. I would prefer dual booting personally, since running OSX in a VM isn't always perfect. Fi, access to extern

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

2016-01-27 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 26/01/2016 23:47, Didier Kryn a écrit : I've seen that few years ago on some machines I bought for my job. I bet it was Dell Poweredge servers. Dell likes to have its own OS installed for maintenance purpose. If you don't care the maintenance, you can overwrite it, but why not dual boo

Re: [DNG] Are my messages delivered?

2016-01-27 Thread Teodoro Santoni
Hi, 2016-01-27 17:11 GMT+01:00, Mitt Green : > I am using Yahoo!Mail as well, and wonder, whether my emails > are delivered. Your emails are delivered into my spam folder. Anything I try to get them anywhere else ends with your emails delivered into my spam folder. Same thing applies to Go Linux.

Re: [DNG] Evolution of a Unix minimalist

2016-01-27 Thread Brian Nash
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 09:43:25PM +0100, Teodoro Santoni wrote: Removes ATA controller because it's using statistical models of butterfly flying for writing on their hard disk [0]. I think there it's nothing wrong with it, too. [0] https://xkcd.com/378/ "A magnetized needle and a steady hand

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

2016-01-27 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
This is my first email here, so... Hi all! And thanks Devuan. (And sorry for my bad English.) > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:46:40 +0100 > From: Edward Bartolo > To: dng > Subject: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop. > > [...] > Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism

2016-01-27 Thread dev1fanboy
Yeah the old pinning won't work on ceres, but the new pinning does as far as I'm aware, or do I need to change that? Only recently went back to Jessie, so can't test my instructions atm. (from here https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/Upgrade-to-Devuan) On Wednesday,

Re: [DNG] Are my messages delivered?

2016-01-27 Thread Go Linux
Yes, yours have been coming through but recent ones from Mitt have gone missing. I am only aware of them from responses that do make it through. golinux On Wed, 1/27/16, Nuno Magalhães wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Are my messages delivered? To: "Mitt

Re: [DNG] Are my messages delivered?

2016-01-27 Thread dev1fanboy
I had an issue the other day with my posts not showing up (at all) once I'd sent them On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 4:11 PM, Mitt Green wrote: > I have noticed, that Go Linux' messages were not delivered > to me, yet they are shown on the site (lists.dyne.org). > And my spam folder is empty. >

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

2016-01-27 Thread Simon Hobson
Wim wrote: > I would take a look at that SATA cable AGAIN. These break far too often. And > when they break, they often don't break completely. Symptoms vary from weird > boot problems, to the OS going corrupt, to a general slow drive. No, definitely a "hard" fault. While trying to deal with i

Re: [DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-27 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Steve Litt writes: > On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 11:42:59 +0100 > >> > And that begs the question: "Who is Karen Sandler?" >> > >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Sandler >> >> ..small fish, nice tits. ;o) > > The preceding half sentence is one example of something that should > NEVER appear in

Re: [DNG] Readable code; making code more easily writable; Emacs, multifiles-apmod; VUE; Code Bubbles; Lisp; Inform 7; HyperCard and HyperTalk - was Re: "Common knowledge?"-question

2016-01-27 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Steve Litt writes: > Apollia wrote: >>> wrote: [...] I often like to use long, descriptive names for functions and variables, no matter what language I'm using, even Bash. [...] >>> using an identifier combined-list-of-files-in-all-source-folders >>> doesn't really communicate

[DNG] Never say that again: was Debian is endorsed by Microsoft

2016-01-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 11:42:59 +0100 > > And that begs the question: "Who is Karen Sandler?" > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Sandler > > ..small fish, nice tits. ;o) The preceding half sentence is one example of something that should NEVER appear in any Devuan venue. Ever. A post l

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

2016-01-27 Thread Lars Noodén
On 01/27/2016 08:53 PM, Steve Litt wrote: [snip] > True story, I had a bad battery such that the instant I pulled > out the power supply, the computer turned off. They wouldn't send me a > new battery until I did a series of Windows tests. Which vendor? It would be good to know so as to steer cle

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

2016-01-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 04:49:59 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 05:57:45PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > > I heard that M$ is forcing the laptop makers to enable TPM, and > > prevent it from being disabled, else they aren't allowed to install > > windows. Having a choice of

[DNG] Jessie netboot alpha2 (AMD64)

2016-01-27 Thread Florian Zieboll
I just installed a Devuan system from scratch in "expert mode" from devuan-jessie-netboot-amd64-alpha2.iso. It went fine so far and finally I own this beautiful green slim login screen I read about on the list. I had planned to go with a customized XDM as on my laptop, but well, we'll see :) S

[DNG] URL jacking (was: Re: Purchasing a new computer/laptop)

2016-01-27 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 03:57:43PM +, Simon Hobson wrote: > Safari also defaults to sending every URL you edit to Google (via Apple ?) > - not just what you type, but the entire URL. > It's also irritatingly stupid in that it will sometimes decide that your > url doesn't look like a url and do

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

2016-01-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:46:40 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making > it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows > installed. > > Are you experiencing the same difficulty and what do you do when you > n

Re: [DNG] Readable code; making code more easily writable; Emacs, multifiles-apmod; VUE; Code Bubbles; Lisp; Inform 7; HyperCard and HyperTalk - was Re: "Common knowledge?"-question

2016-01-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:56:04 -0500 Apollia wrote: > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Rainer Weikusat < > rainerweiku...@virginmedia.com> wrote: > > > Apollia writes: > > > > [...] > > > > > I think if I ever did code much in C, my code would end up > > > looking very unusual and unconventio

Re: [DNG] systemd-free.org

2016-01-27 Thread Steve Litt
Arch is a virulently pro-systemd, anti-choice distro, unlike its descendant, Manjaro. If Arch is really home-growing a systemd-free version of Arch, this would be, in the words of Joe Biden, a BIG F'ing DEAL! Arch is often trotted out to combat accusations that systemd is a redhatism, and that sys

Re: [DNG] Are my messages delivered?

2016-01-27 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Gmail they're being marked as spam, along with GoLinux's. I weed them out every now and then. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Lightweight media/video player

2016-01-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:22:34 - "dev1fanboy" wrote: > One of the better ones for the purpose of keeping pulse and dbus out > is xine (xine-ui). As far as a media player.. I think it's best to > have one thing for music and another for video. A good music player > is cmus which uses ncurses and

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism

2016-01-27 Thread Mitt Green
Florian Ziebolli wrote: >What entries do you have in your sources.list? Here it's only "jessie" >and "jessie-updates" from de.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ I'm using Unstable/Ceres. Starting from APT 1.1 pinning rules have changed. We had a conversation on it a month ago: https://lists.dyne.org/lurke

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism

2016-01-27 Thread Florian Zieboll
On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 16:42:56 + (UTC) Mitt Green wrote: > $ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/avoid-systemd > Package: systemd-sysv > Pin: release o=Debian > Pin-Priority: -1 > > $ sudo apt install systemd-sysv > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information..

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism

2016-01-27 Thread Mitt Green
Forgot the link to the message: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20151202.111959.bb508dfd.en.html ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism

2016-01-27 Thread Mitt Green
Rainer Weikusat wrote: >What's the base for the claim that neither old nor new pinning methods >'work'? $ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/avoid-systemd Package: systemd-sysv Pin: release o=Debian Pin-Priority: -1 $ sudo apt install systemd-sysv Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

2016-01-27 Thread Wim
2016-01-27 16:57 GMT+01:00 Simon Hobson : > Wim wrote: > > [snip] > > * Yes, the one with the faulty SATA that doesn't like 3gbps drives - you > try finding a drive these days that has a jumper for 1.5gbps operation :-( > > > > You don't need to jumper drives. I've never encountered any drive tha

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism

2016-01-27 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Mitt Green writes: > dev1fanboy, > > Since APT pinning no longer works, the purpose of > the guide [1] is uncertain to me. Judging from the Debian documenation on this, which I quoted last time you made this claim, there has been a minor syntax change in this area and the suggested configuration

[DNG] Are my messages delivered?

2016-01-27 Thread Mitt Green
I have noticed, that Go Linux' messages were not delivered to me, yet they are shown on the site (lists.dyne.org). And my spam folder is empty. I am using Yahoo!Mail as well, and wonder, whether my emails are delivered. Mitt ___ Dng mailing list Dng@list

Re: [DNG] Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism

2016-01-27 Thread Mitt Green
dev1fanboy, Since APT pinning no longer works, the purpose of the guide [1] is uncertain to me. I would also add spacefm to the list [2]; transcript from the site [3]: "SpaceFM & udevil can be used completely without systemd, consolekit, policykit, dbus, udisks, gvfs & fuse (although it can coexi

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

2016-01-27 Thread Simon Hobson
Wim wrote: > I still have my previous model, I suppose I ought to try a native install on > it - and perhaps see if I can get OS X running as a VM. > > I would prefer dual booting personally, since running OSX in a VM isn't > always perfect. Fi, access to external hardware over USB, like audio

[DNG] Release file for Ceres is expired

2016-01-27 Thread Mitt Green
Hi, Got the error now: $ sudo apt update [...] E: Release file for http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/dists/unstable/InRelease is expired (invalid since 4h 27min 55s). Updates for this repository will not be applied. Ceres/Unstable //Mitt ___ Dng m

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

2016-01-27 Thread Wim
Just to clear up a few things: - The TPM chip on some Mac has never been used. It's my guess that marketing decided against it, purely for imago problems. There were a lot of reactions from ordinary users in the style of "I don't want anything on my Mac that might check if I'm running pirated soft

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

2016-01-27 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 05:57:45PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > I heard that M$ is forcing the laptop makers to enable TPM, and > prevent it from being disabled, else they aren't allowed to install > windows. Having a choice of OS to install is great, but doesn't TPM > mean that GNU/Linux can't

Re: [DNG] PC compatibility to non-Microsoft software

2016-01-27 Thread Simon Hobson
William C Vaughan wrote: > I have been flamed before because of my posts on this mailing list That's inexcusable. > I think that ultimately, EFF or the GNU folks will need to pursue lobbying > for legislation to prevent hardware companies from imposing restrictions upon > software installs by

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

2016-01-27 Thread Simon Hobson
Robert Storey wrote: > So maybe I should ask: Have you tried installing Linux on your MacBook? If > so, how was the experience? Any advice about that? Any nonsense to deal with > similar to Microsoft's "secure boot"? (if you answered those questions > already in another post, I"m sorry, I miss

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

2016-01-27 Thread Lars Noodén
On 01/27/2016 04:07 AM, Robert Storey wrote: > Anyway, expensive though it might be, I'd consider a MacBook in the future, > especially if I could dual-boot it with Linux. The ones from a few years ago do ok. I don't know about the newer ones, but I'd assume they'd still run ok. However, I and