Hi Everyone,
The purpose of this mail thread is to stimulate discussion about the
subject, as it is becoming increasingly harder to purchase Linux
friendly hardware. I don't know whether the following is paranoia or
fact, but I get an uncomfortable itch when I enter a shop boasting of
having a Mic
On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:48:50 +, Simon wrote in message
<42725396-018e-4453-9f90-31c2877c1...@thehobsons.co.uk>:
> Mitt Green wrote:
>
> > They can request a refund before activating the
> > license, but will actually receive a smaller amount of
> > money than they spent, if some at all at a
Forgive me. I have been flamed before because of my posts on this mailing
list, but a comment on newer PC's and their non-compatibility with
non-Microsoft software led me to risk this posting. I think that
ultimately, EFF or the GNU folks will need to pursue lobbying for
legislation to prevent hard
Simon Hobson
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Subject: Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop
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Robert Storey wrote:
>> Since the Mac doesn't have a ctrl key, the following was a particularly
Peter Olson writes:
[...]
>> it (the string would need to be copied, including handling errors in
>
> Living on the edge?
The standardized definition of the function requests that unless one is
happy with the original string being changed.
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Dng mai
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:43:40AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 07:46:40PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making
> > it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows
> > installed.
>
Hi,
On 12/15/15 12:25, aitor_czr wrote:
Hi Rainer,
On 20/11/15 12:11, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>aitor_czr writes:
>> >As i said in ahother thead, i'm experiencing with GtkBuilder.
>> >
>> >The following example runs a widget containig a spinner and four buttons.
>> >
>> >http://gnuinos.org/G
> On January 26, 2016 at 2:30 PM Rainer Weikusat
> wrote:
>
> Peter Olson writes:
> >> On January 25, 2016 at 5:54 PM Rainer Weikusat
> >> wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >> A related but IMHO more interesting set of questions could be:
>
> [..]
>
> > It must be trivial crap because nobody ever mad
Has anyone experience sending e-mail to the listed contact e-mail for
the project ? I just tried, and got bounced by a
purported "SPF: mechanism" error:
BEGIN ===
corellia.eurodns.com rejected a message that claimed an envelope sender
add
Robert Storey wrote:
> Since the Mac doesn't have a ctrl key, the following was a particularly
> relevant post:
Really ?
Mine does, there between the fn and alt keys - standard UK keyboard on a
MacBook Pro. I think it will be model/keyboard specific. You can always plug in
a different keyboar
KatolaZ writes:
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 05:44:11PM -0500, Peter Olson wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
>>
>> This also brings up the question of whether you should roll your own
>> get_name or
>> use basename(3) which already does the same thing except in some edge cases.
>> It's easier for the student to
Mitt Green wrote:
> They can request a refund before activating the
> license, but will actually receive a smaller amount of
> money than they spent, if some at all at all.
I recall reading how one person, after a fight to get anything, got much more !
This isn't the case I was thinking of, but
Le 26/01/2016 23:40, Robert Storey a écrit :
With desktop computers, it's not too hard to find one with FreeDos
installed by default, or no OS. Linux usually works fine on these
machines.
I've seen that few years ago on some machines I bought for my job.
I bet it was Dell Poweredge server
With desktop computers, it's not too hard to find one with FreeDos
installed by default, or no OS. Linux usually works fine on these machines.
A few years ago I bought a Toshiba Satellite laptop with FreeDos installed
by default, and it was cheap. No money to Microsoft, and Linux worked like
a cha
Hendrik Boom writes:
[...]
> There seem to be viable ARM processors, and I've even heard mention of
> an ARM laptop; I've had no luck tracking it down. Does anyone else
> know of a source?
Not really a laptop but something I was seriously tempted to buy a
couple of times although I'm decided
Le 26/01/2016 19:18, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
There seem to be viable ARM processors, and I've even heard mention of
an ARM laptop;
I've got a Pi-Top, a laptop built around a Raspberry Pi. It's the
first model, crowd-funded. I wouldn't recommend it. I had very little
time to devote to it bu
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 07:46:40PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making
> it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows
> installed.
>
> Are you experiencing the same difficulty and what do you do when yo
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 07:46:40PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making
> it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows
> installed.
>
> Are you experiencing the same difficulty and what do you do when yo
Hi.
[My first post to this list]
I recently bought a used Dell laptop that had Windows 7 pre-installed
and just completely formatted the hard drive and installed Debian 7 on
it (Before I became aware of this list). It, Debian 7, recognized all
of the hardware without any problems.
I haven't
Dave Turner wrote:
>You buy the laptop with Windows 10 installed
When buying a machine with Windows
pre-installed, a customer pays for Windows as well.
They can request a refund before activating the
license, but will actually receive a smaller amount of
money than they spent, if some at all a
You buy the laptop with Windows 10 installed, make sure everything works
then install the distro of your choice.
No dual-booting.
VeryPC in the UK make small eco-friendly desktops that they are happy to
sell without an OS.
I might get one when the iMac finally breaks.
You could always have a n
Peter Olson writes:
>> On January 25, 2016 at 5:54 PM Rainer Weikusat
>> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> A related but IMHO more interesting set of questions could be:
>>
>> 1. Should every trivial crap $someone ever implemented since 1978 end up
>>in general purpose library just because $someone hap
2016-01-26 19:46 GMT+01:00, Edward Bartolo :
> Hi All,
>
> Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making
> it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows
> installed.
>
> Are you experiencing the same difficulty and what do you do when you
> need to buy a new
I wrote:
>they offer cheap low-end laptops (well, having 4GB of RAM
is low-end these days).
They have Linux pre-installed, forgot to mention.
I've seen maybe a couple only high-end laptops with
Linux, and they are made by Dell.
So, looking through the market, chances are, you'll
see galore, but
On Tue, 1/26/16, Edward Bartolo wrote:
Subject: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.
To: "dng"
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 12:46 PM
Hi All,
Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making
it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows
installed
We actually have a lot of shops, mostly small, that do their business
in Internet, they offer cheap low-end laptops (well, having 4GB of RAM
is low-end these days).
Dell has own line with Ubuntu pre-installed.
There is also an option to buy one of those Pis, especially Pi Zero,
which is €4/£4/$5.
I mostly build my own computers, as far as my laptop goes I went for good specs
and yes that meant I had to sacrifice and get it preinstalled with windows.
This might be on me, I did notice freedos installations available on slightly
lower spec laptops. It's one of those cost of freedom issues.
Hi All,
Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making
it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows
installed.
Are you experiencing the same difficulty and what do you do when you
need to buy a new machine?
Edward
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Apollia writes:
> Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
>> Apollia writes:
[...]
>>> I often like to use long, descriptive names for functions and
>>> variables,
[...]
>> combined-list-of-files-in-all-source-folders
>>
>> doesn't really communicate more than 'all-files' or even just 'all' (if
>> the file
Steve Litt writes:
> Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
>> Can the effect of the following C function
>>
>> static void print_start(char const *name, char const *what)
>> {
[...]
>> }
>>
>> be considered obvious or should it rather get an explanation?
>
> Hi Rainer,
>
> Others have pointed out potentia
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 05:44:11PM -0500, Peter Olson wrote:
[cut]
>
> This also brings up the question of whether you should roll your own get_name
> or
> use basename(3) which already does the same thing except in some edge cases.
> It's easier for the student to understand the code if it is
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:41:38PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
[cut]
>
> But the loop in
>
> static char const *get_name(char const *arg0)
> {
> char const *n, *r;
>
> n = r = arg0;
> while (*r) if (*r++ == '/') n = r;
> return n;
> }
>
> is not of this type. It contains an
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