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> 2) If a related attribute currently has a value of None, should the
> __get__ method return None, or raise a DoesNotExist if accessed? Does
> this behaviour change if the attribute is set null=True?
>
> Personally, I am:
> +1 returning None if null=True
> +0 returning None if null=False
>
> 3)
rry about that, I've just committed an alternate solution that should
fix it. Can you check?
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> Sorry about that, I've just committed an alternate solution that
> should fix it. Can you check?
I'm lying, here. jkocherhans beat me to it and I assumed that my commit
succeeded. But it is fixed anyway.
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another way of
getting the id without doing an extra db lookup.
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> On 3/9/06, Luke Plant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday 07 March 2006 14:49, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
> >
> > > > > 3) What is to become of the _id fields for ForeignKeys?
>
> > > Isn't th
On Monday 13 March 2006 07:13, Adrian Holovaty wrote:
> I'm catching up on more than a week's worth of unread mailing-list
> messages. Is this still an open issue?
I committed my changes, so no.
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{% comment %} blah {% endcomment %} I
couldn't be bothered, especially as it actually makes the code *less*
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nice to me.
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uld add in some kind of
explicit 'freshen' calls into the tests to make them pass. At the end
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> So, I'm not sure if such an improvement is really necessary, again as
> the biggest case I see _for_ it being template performance, and I'm
> wondering if there might be a better way to optimize that single edge
> instead (ie, is it worth it to have some caching added to
> d
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> On 3/13/06, Luke Plant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If I create a model in my app with foreign key to the User model,
> > the SQL for creating the table doesn't add a 'REFERENCES' clause:
>
it
yourself ain't so bad.
As for that thread, the reasoning in it doesn't apply to this situation
(as was explained in the thread, and yet again above).
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ta and ._meta). It's also on the ManyToMany, ManyToOne
classes etc, where it seems to belong. I don't know whether it should
be on Options - that doesn't seem to make sense, and it doesn't work
either.
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Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote:
> I can buy that... but it doesn't just return useless data, it returns
> a potentially HUGE dataset -- every single EventTime in the system!
> -- which an unwary template author might stumble across and bring the
> site to its knees.
Surely a template author couldn't do
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I have #1555 and #1556 and r2594, all after #1554. Perhaps it's just a
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I have recently gone live with an app mainly using Django's admin,
deployed using mod_python. I've found something I never really
experienced when using the developlement server and developing locally
(for some unknown reason), namely that the browser caches pages
generated by the admin (without
why I came up with the other
method!)
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port never_cache
@never_cache
def my_view(request)
...
or:
from django.utils.cache import add_never_cache_headers
def my_view(request):
...
response = render_to_response(...)
if dont_cache_it:
add_never_cache_headers(response)
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oggie rob wrote:
> I'm a little concerned that you found this - I deployed a similar app
> several months ago and have not heard of a single case of this. (I'm
> using rev 1764.)
Actually, the only place I've discovered it is at my work place, and
from here it does seem to be fixed with the chan
I've actually managed to use Firefox and LiveHeaders to capture an
instance of it doing it. It occurred after deleting an object and then
going back to the list view (which makes sense - I haven't added
@never_cache to the list view yet). I'll analyse the log later.
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For those who are interested (and for the record):
Here is the relevant bit of the log I was talking about:
GET /admin/officers/application/ HTTP/1.1
Host: [removed]
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.2; en-GB; rv:1.8.0.1)
Gecko
e core devs think?
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On Friday 31 March 2006 18:57, Luke Plant wrote:
> So the issue here is entirely to do with an intermediate web cache,
> and from what I can tell
> ( http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec13.html#sec13 ), the
> cache is behaving itself perfectly well - since the page had n
ywhere.
Any ideas? Is anyone else seeing this?
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On Tuesday 04 April 2006 21:52, Luke Plant wrote:
> I have an app that is live and running m-r (yeah, I know!), and I
> just got a "connection limit exceeded for non-superusers" error. It
> appears that connections are not being closed at all. With every hit
> I'm g
3. However,
I haven't the faintest clue why this error is being thrown, why my
changes made this difference, or how to fix it. It's certainly a
smaller problem that the one solved, so I'll leave it for now.
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On Wednesday 05 April 2006 23:07, gabor wrote:
> hi Jacob, many thanks for the explanation.
>
> (and sorry to jump into the discussion)..
>
> the original poster (luke plant) said that:
>
> "
> It appears
> that connections are not being closed at all. With every
dmin choices for this object.
i.e. it only limits what you seen in the admin.
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ing
it should go in django/contrib/middleware/csrf.py (the middleware
directory doesn't exist yet). I'll add documentation for it as well,
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Shall I still go ahead and add it? It can't affect anything else since
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is a bug. I've noticed it before and not been
sure why it was there. Perhaps the 'else' should throw an exception
saying "use __isnull instead" ?
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er way, if your use case is "allow end
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RHEL5 goes into long term support mode in 2012 Q1 (it had Python 2.4,
which we already dropped), and RHEL6 is already out, and has Python 2.6.
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> django-dev; no explanation was ever given.
I don't know what thread you are talking about. Hanne Moa brings up the
subject here and gets two replies from Russell:
http://goo.gl/7p1JN
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Also, I'm not sure that it is safe for the case where the session data
is exposed e.g. if the session backend actually stores the session the
cookie, rather than in a database to whic
On 15/04/12 05:23, Rohan Jain wrote:
> On 22:50 +0100 / 13 Apr, Luke Plant wrote:
>> The reason for the strict referer checking under HTTPS is set out here:
>>
>> https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/CsrfProtection
>>
>> Particularly, it is to fix the 'CSRF +
Sorry to reply twice, a comment on a different part:
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> On 22:50 +0100 / 13 Apr, Luke Plant wrote:
>> .. At the moment, it seems that few browsers send the
>> 'Origin' header for normal HTML requests. (Recent versions of Chrome,
>&
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No-one thinks Trac is ideal, it's just much better than GitHub Issues
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you have some gotchas with things like POST requests.
I found I had to write something like this snippet:
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But it's not ideal in a number of ways, like needing its own
documentation, since it doesn't just set parameters on ListView.
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The feature given in the patch on ticket #18277, is however, much more
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. I've observed this several
times. If I do 'git fetch upstream', rather than 'git pull upstream
master', then the pointers always update, but I thought the whole point
of doing 'pull' was 'pull=fetch then merge'. Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks i
tigate the impact of this. It's
likely to crop up in all kinds of horrible places, deep in libraries
that you can't do much about. In my case I was loading config, including
passwords, from a config file in JSON, and the password was now
exploding inside smtplib because it was a unicode
s I probably not the only one affected by this, if it's
happened on two quite different machines. Looking at this discussion:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/712791/json-and-simplejson-module-differences-in-python
it seems that lots of people don't have the C extension for json
(reporting jso
uses
simplejson.dumps() (either via 'import simplejson' or 'import
django.utils.simplejson') will break. I found this already with
django-piston.
I think we at least need a bigger section in the release notes about this.
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I completely agree regarding how to handle NoSQL as well.
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#x27;t ask "why did this happen?
What is the root cause? How can we stop it ever happening again?"
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Actually my main objection is that it's a bit long, the above is just
rationalisation.
Some other alternatives: build_html, build_html_safe, format_html
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e Bayer for the time he took just
looking at this proposal, and for his feedback, some of which I've
incorporated into this.
Comments? It would be good to get other developers' comments on the
whole idea of "Django 2.0" as well - when do we see it happening?
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>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Luke Plant <mailto:l.plant...@cantab.net>> wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> I started a thread on the 'Python security' list about the need for a
> place for 3rd party Django/Python libraries to announce secu
3–11%) of users
>>
This makes strict referer checking a non-started, and lax referer
checking (only check it if it is present) has known flaws.
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seems like a bad idea to you,
> then please say so (preferably before I commit anything)...
>
> I am sorry if I haven't worked on other patches I thought I had time
> to work on. The core ORM refactorings are IMO really important to work
> on, and thus they have bypassed some other i
I'm +1 on adding forwards compatibility to 1.4.X,
assuming a safe patch.
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life hard for them. I don't know what that means in practice, but if we
got feedback from the developers of those other solutions it would be
good. We might need something like a 'syncdb --ignore-migrations' option.
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If you could create a ticket, that will ensure this is not forgotten. It
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ust be in want of a wife." (Jane
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valents of both select_related and
prefetch_related.
What I'm saying is that in the absence of that better API, or some way
of specifying the query you want, we shouldn't guess and convert one
optimisation into another.
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OSBORN'S LAW
Variables won't, co
template, and updating the help
text for TEMPLATE_DIRS and STATICFILES_DIRS to mention it.
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-- William Shakespeare
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nd visualise
world peace for an hour, imagine how serene and quiet it would be
until the looting started" -- Anon
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tc., as mentioned by Shai.
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A mosquito cried out in pain:
"A chemist has poisoned my brain!"
The cause of his sorrow
was para-dichloro-
diphenyltrichloroethane
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