Re: How to interpret the performance difference: Tornado vs Django

2009-10-06 Thread Roberto De Ioris
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 22:16 -0700, ihomest...@gmail.com wrote: > I read this doc about the performance comparison between Tornado and > Django: http://www.tornadoweb.org/documentation > > I am quite new to both django and tornado (just heard about it). To me > there are a few confusing points abo

RE: How to interpret the performance difference: Tornado vs Django

2009-10-06 Thread TheMaTrIx
A server mainly needs to be stable and you only need to start pushing for that 1% more performance when your servers load is over the edge. You can create bottlenecks with misconfiguration, but to misconfigure something, just means you didn't follow the guidelines to establish a basic configuration

Brand new projects should pass their tests (the django.contrib.auth thing from #7611)

2009-10-06 Thread Simon Willison
One of the things that has been established at DjangoCon is that, as a community, we don't have a strong enough culture of testing. This is despite Django shipping with some good testing tools (TestClient and the like). Anything we can do to make testing more attractive is a Good Thing. In my opi

Re: How to interpret the performance difference: Tornado vs Django

2009-10-06 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 06 Oct 2009 1:53:44 pm TheMaTrIx wrote: > I have a nack for optimizing PHP Webservers what is a PHP webserver? -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: Brand new projects should pass their tests (the django.contrib.auth thing from #7611)

2009-10-06 Thread Richard Boulton
2009/10/6 Simon Willison > I think this issue is well worth solving. If we DO solve it, we could > even think about adding some stuff about running "./manage.py test" to > the tutorial. > I think this is probably the biggest thing you could do to make django testing more prevalent - I've read va

RE: How to interpret the performance difference: Tornado vs Django

2009-10-06 Thread TheMaTrIx
Apache_mod_PHP or Apache_fastCGI, or IIS flavored. Although I've had some good experiences using lighttpd with php too. What I mean with a php server in general is any webserver configured to run PHP websites and static files and nothing else. You can get rather funky results having a webserver

Re: Branchy Django developement on GitHub

2009-10-06 Thread mrts
On Oct 5, 7:08 pm, mrts wrote: > There'shttp://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/CollaborateOnGithub > I will update that page with these instructions, Done. Any comments and amendments should probably go to the wiki page now. Best, MS --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You receive

Re: Brand new projects should pass their tests (the django.contrib.auth thing from #7611)

2009-10-06 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Simon Willison wrote: > > One of the things that has been established at DjangoCon is that, as a > community, we don't have a strong enough culture of testing. This is > despite Django shipping with some good testing tools (TestClient and > the like). Anything we c

Re: Adding signing (and signed cookies) to Django core

2009-10-06 Thread Matt Brubeck
On Oct 5, 1:44 pm, Simon Willison wrote: > Other than dates being a bit more annoying to pass around, I really > don't think that telling people they can only dumps/loads JSON- > encodable data would be a huge burden. You could use YAML instead if you want date support... although JSON does seem

Admin: TemplateSyntax error if I input a manual (and not existent) value in a FK in raw_id_fields

2009-10-06 Thread Marcob
I saw these tickets: http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/9484 (closed: duplicate) Admin, raw_id_fields, not int value Msg: #8746 covers this. http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/8746 (closed: fixed) Data entered in raw_id_fields needs better checking Msg: Please file a new ticket for this htt

Re: Admin: TemplateSyntax error if I input a manual (and not existent) value in a FK in raw_id_fields

2009-10-06 Thread Karen Tracey
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Marcob wrote: > > I saw these tickets: > > http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/9484 (closed: duplicate) > Admin, raw_id_fields, not int value > Msg: #8746 covers this. > > http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/8746 (closed: fixed) > Data entered in raw_id_fields ne

Re: Brand new projects should pass their tests (the django.contrib.auth thing from #7611)

2009-10-06 Thread Adam V.
In a Django project, I have a bash script that does: APPS=`python -c "import settings; print settings.only_our_apps()"` ./manage.py test $APPS In settings.py I define OUR_APPS as a list, and then define INSTALLED_APPS as the django built-ins plus OUR_APPS: _OUR_APPS = ( 'something', 'an

Re: How to interpret the performance difference: Tornado vs Django

2009-10-06 Thread ihomest...@gmail.com
Thanks to you guys for the insightful discussions and thoughts on this topic. It is always good to hear from many sides to get a complete picture. I agree with your comments about the benchmark thing and that is the also the origin of my confusions when I read the benchmark part in the Tornado doc

RE: How to interpret the performance difference: Tornado vs Django

2009-10-06 Thread Enlightend
Considering you mostly run django on a webserver like apache, you need to ask the question if your method of runing python on apache (wsgi or mod-python for instance) runs in a way apache runs multi threaded and multi instance, which it normaly does, in which case itll use as much cares as you

Re: Brand new projects should pass their tests (the django.contrib.auth thing from #7611)

2009-10-06 Thread Kevin Teague
On Oct 6, 1:43 am, Simon Willison wrote: > > Option 6 would be welcome if anyone has any ideas. > Do what Grok does: $ grokproject newapp $ cd newapp $ ./bin/test Running tests at level 1 Total: 0 tests, 0 failures, 0 errors in 0.000 seconds. That is, if it's a fresh project, and no code has

Re: Brand new projects should pass their tests (the django.contrib.auth thing from #7611)

2009-10-06 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Kevin Teague wrote: > > On Oct 6, 1:43 am, Simon Willison wrote: >> >> Option 6 would be welcome if anyone has any ideas. > > Do what Grok does: > > $ grokproject newapp > $ cd newapp > $ ./bin/test > Running tests at level 1 > Total: 0 tests, 0 failures, 0 errors

Re: How to interpret the performance difference: Tornado vs Django

2009-10-06 Thread Graham Dumpleton
Read: http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2007/09/parallel-python-discussion-and-modwsgi.html Graham On Oct 7, 8:56 am, "ihomest...@gmail.com" wrote: > Thanks to you guys for the insightful discussions and thoughts on this > topic. It is always good to hear from many sides to get a complete > picture.

Re: How to interpret the performance difference: Tornado vs Django

2009-10-06 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wednesday 07 Oct 2009 3:26:21 am ihomest...@gmail.com wrote: > Since many have mentioned that django is not an asynchronous > framework, you still have not understood. django is a framework. It is not a webserver, or any kind of server. (oops, just noticed that this discussion is on the deve