Re: Feature request for newforms: HTML 4

2006-12-05 Thread Antonio Cavedoni
On 12/5/06, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now, I'm pretty picky about my markup, and I'm certainly willing to go > to unusual lengths to get it just the way I want it, but it'd be > awfully nice if there were some way to get HTML-style output from > newforms without having to manually

Re: Feature request for newforms: HTML 4

2006-12-05 Thread Ivan Sagalaev
James Bennett wrote: > Now, I'm pretty picky about my markup, and I'm certainly willing to go > to unusual lengths to get it just the way I want it, but it'd be > awfully nice if there were some way to get HTML-style output from > newforms without having to manually subclass all the widgets and >

Re: Feature request for newforms: HTML 4

2006-12-05 Thread Ivan Sagalaev
Ivan Sagalaev wrote: > > Since all these things happily work in browsers the only difference > between "/>" and the rest is that it is not DTD-valid HTML 4.01. In fact I'm wrong here... I just checked that W3C's validator doesn't object to ""s. This is a valid HTML 4.01: http://www.w3.or

Re: Full text searches in Django

2006-12-05 Thread Rafael SDM Sierra
On 11/28/06, Jyrki Pulliainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 11/28/06, John Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > While this is MySQL fulltext specific, it may be of use when you start > > tinkering with the Django code: > > > http://www.mercurytide.com/knowledge/white-papers/django-fu

Re: Default representation of a Form

2006-12-05 Thread Lachlan Cannon
Lakin Wecker wrote: > as_dl() gets a +1 from me. I've used definition lists for forms and > prefer it over tables. :) Maybe there needs to be an easy hook for people to specify their own way of laying a form out. It seems the as_ methods are gonna keep growing and growing. -- Lach Personal: h

Re: Re: Suggestion: Aggregate/Grouping/Calculated methods in Django ORM

2006-12-05 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 12/4/06, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm taking this to django-dev for more discussion; it'll get seen by more the > right people there. > > Thoughts, anyone? Ok; here's my thoughts. 1. Introduction ~~~ Consider the following pseudo-model: class Book(Model):

Re: Suggestion: Aggregate/Grouping/Calculated methods in Django ORM

2006-12-05 Thread John Lenton
On 12/4/06, DavidA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Would I have to call queryset.groupby(account) three times: once for > count(), once for sum(quantity) and once for sum(total_pnl)? I hadn't even considered having a multi-parameter tuple-returning "sum"; I was ok with either calling groupby thric

Re: Default representation of a Form

2006-12-05 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 12/5/06, Lachlan Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lakin Wecker wrote: > > as_dl() gets a +1 from me. I've used definition lists for forms and > > prefer it over tables. :) > > Maybe there needs to be an easy hook for people to specify their own way of > laying a form out. It seems the as_ m

FloatField representation

2006-12-05 Thread Vladimir Ponarevsky
Hi, all. I have a following error when i try to display an object list in the admin panel: "TypeError at /admin/report/code/ float argument required" My model: class Code(models.Model): tarif= models.FloatField(_('Tarif'), decimal_places=2, max_digits=3) class Admin:

Re: Feature request for newforms: HTML 4

2006-12-05 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 12/5/06, Ivan Sagalaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In fact I'm wrong here... I just checked that W3C's validator doesn't > object to ""s. This is a valid HTML 4.01: > > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd";> > > Test > > > > So even "invalidness" is not a point. What

Re: Feature request for newforms: HTML 4

2006-12-05 Thread Rob Hudson
James Bennett wrote: > So I've been poking around in the newforms code, and it appears that > the pre-defined widgets will be producing XHTML-style output. I had the same thought but I wrote a quick test with an HTML 4 strict doc-type, put an input tag in it like this: , and it was still valid.

Re: Feature request for newforms: HTML 4

2006-12-05 Thread Fredrik Lundh
James Bennett wrote: > Unfortunately, I don't really have a good proposal for how to handle > this, except maybe to further break down the Widget API to include > 'as_html' and 'as_xhtml'. Any ideas? build up the output using a light-weight DOM with a nice Python-level syntax, and serialize it

Re: Re: Feature request for newforms: HTML 4

2006-12-05 Thread James Bennett
On 12/5/06, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If XHTML-style tags are valid in HTML 4 strict, then I don't see a > point in creating a separate output format for each widget. They are valid but have a completely different meaning which browsers don't interpret correctly; in HTML4, the

Re: Feature request for newforms: HTML 4

2006-12-05 Thread Fredrik Lundh
James Bennett wrote: > They are valid but have a completely different meaning which (most) > browsers don't interpret correctly; in HTML4, the closing slash is a > form of SGML SHORTTAG syntax, and '' in HTML4 is meant to be > interpreted as a 'br' element followed by a literal greater-than

Re: Re: Feature request for newforms: HTML 4

2006-12-05 Thread James Bennett
On 12/5/06, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > full details: > > http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/html/empty.html Also, there is a valid problem here; if I produce HTML4, and just say "it validates, I don't care if it's correct", then my HTML will work in browsers, but actual SGML parsers (

Re: Re: Feature request for newforms: HTML 4

2006-12-05 Thread James Bennett
On 12/5/06, Ivan Sagalaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The question is where to stop. Pickiness may lead further to having an > option to omit quotes around attribute values, have uppercase tag names, > omit end tags of etc... This is all working HTML (even valid by DTD). Yup. And in fact, I do

Re: Re: Re: Feature request for newforms: HTML 4

2006-12-05 Thread Antonio Cavedoni
On 12/5/06, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On IRC a moment ago, Jacob suggested an 'html4' template filter which > would just strip trailing slashes from empty tags; I'd be happy with > that (and willing to put in some time to implement it), provided we > advertise clearly that the Dja

Re: Feature request for newforms: HTML 4

2006-12-05 Thread Fredrik Lundh
James Bennett wrote: > There's a real-world difference there. You may say that nobody's ever > used a real SGML parser on HTML4, but I actually have (in fact, I once > ran into a situation where it was the only way to find a bug that the > standard W3C validator settings couldn't catch), and I kn

Re: Feature request for newforms: HTML 4

2006-12-05 Thread Ivan Sagalaev
James Bennett wrote: > Yup. And in fact, I do that (quite deliberately). Nice to meet a like-minded person :-) > I'm just asking for a simple way to get form inputs without trailing > slashes As you said the problem is how to make it simple enough... What about a middleware that seeing 'text/h

Re: Re: Feature request for newforms: HTML 4

2006-12-05 Thread James Bennett
On 12/5/06, Ivan Sagalaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the near future I think The Right Thing would be to use a real HTML > parser for such things. There were many messages on WHATWG list from > people writing such tools in many languages including Python: > http://code.google.com/p/html5lib/

Re: Have a look at django.newforms

2006-12-05 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 12/1/06, Gábor Farkas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what about the following change?: > > if not isinstance(output, basestring): > > -return str(output) > > +try: > > +return str(output) > > +except UnicodeEncodeError: > > +

Help to translate

2006-12-05 Thread Mario
Hi, I'm a Spanish native speaker from Chile. I use django in productions systems and I've seen the po files. Some msgid's are not translated and I want to help with that. Also, there's an es_AR but not es_CL, I'd like to help with that to :-) is ok with you? -- http://www.advogato.org/perso

Re: Feature request for newforms: HTML 4

2006-12-05 Thread Ivan Sagalaev
James Bennett wrote: > Well... define "near future" ;) When the library will be usable. > Whenever HTML5-the-specification is finished and > HTML5-the-cross-browser-implementation is available, then yeah, > that'll work. You don't have to wait for this because html5lib would work with existing

Re: Help to translate

2006-12-05 Thread Ivan Aleman
2006/12/5, Mario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi, I'm a Spanish native speaker from Chile. I use django in > productions systems and I've seen the po files. Some msgid's are not > translated and I want to help with that. Also, there's an es_AR but > not es_CL, I'd like to help with that to :-) > >

Re: Have a look at django.newforms

2006-12-05 Thread gabor
Adrian Holovaty wrote: > On 12/1/06, Gábor Farkas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> what about the following change?: >>> if not isinstance(output, basestring): >>> -return str(output) >>> +try: >>> +return str(output) >>> +except UnicodeEnc

Re: Have a look at django.newforms

2006-12-05 Thread Ivan Sagalaev
Adrian Holovaty wrote: > This is an interesting problem. That template fix would be OK by me, > but it's sort of a hack. I think we're going to run into similar > issues with Form.__str__() returning a Unicode object. Maybe, as you > suggest, Form.__str__() should return a bytestring according to

Re: Help to translate

2006-12-05 Thread mario__
> Hello Mario, > > It's great that you want to start this effort, I am starting too a > Spanish translation (es_MX) but my question is why we need to have > es_AR, es_CL or es_MX is because we speak a little bit different the > Spanish or it's because we haven't put enough effort to coordinate a >

Re: Have a look at django.newforms

2006-12-05 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 12/5/06, Ivan Sagalaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adrian Holovaty wrote: > > This is an interesting problem. That template fix would be OK by me, > > but it's sort of a hack. I think we're going to run into similar > > issues with Form.__str__() returning a Unicode object. Maybe, as you > > s

Re: Help to translate

2006-12-05 Thread mario__
> Well, we could have the 'es' translation in 100% completed first and > then start to think in another countries. The 'es' file is about 80% > translated so if you let me I'll do my best to translate all the file. > This is my little help http://media.forestal.udec.cl/django/ > --~--~-

django.contrib.formtools: High-level abstractions of common form tasks

2006-12-05 Thread Adrian Holovaty
I've just checked in a new bit of Django functionality I've been developing for the past couple of days (extracted from some production code). It's an abstraction of the workflow "Display an HTML form, force a preview, then do something with the submission." If you're familiar with the forced-pre

Re: Help to translate

2006-12-05 Thread Ivan Aleman
> Well, we could have the 'es' translation in 100% completed first and > then start to think in another countries. The 'es' file is about 80% > translated so if you let me I'll do my best to translate all the file. > Where is this 'es' file perhaps you mean es_CL ? > So, why we need differen

Re: Help to translate

2006-12-05 Thread Ivan Aleman
2006/12/5, mario__ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This is my little help > http://media.forestal.udec.cl/django/ > Perhaps you want to use Django I18N mailing list for this kind of affairs. Regards. -- Iván Alemán --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message becaus

Re: Suggestion: Aggregate/Grouping/Calculated methods in Django ORM

2006-12-05 Thread DavidA
Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > annotate() returns a query set, so it can be used multiple times, be > combined with filters, etc. The argument handling strategy employed in > filter() is reused here; kwargs to annotate() can be decomposed on a > __ boundary to describe table joins, with the last pa

Re: django.contrib.formtools: High-level abstractions of common form tasks

2006-12-05 Thread Ivan Sagalaev
Adrian Holovaty wrote: > What other sorts of things can we make abstractions for, > given a Form? First thing that comes to mind is the same thing you describe but without preview. In other words it's what update_object generic view does now but it works only on models and often it is desired t

Re: Suggestion: Aggregate/Grouping/Calculated methods in Django ORM

2006-12-05 Thread DavidA
John Lenton wrote: > > I hadn't even considered having a multi-parameter tuple-returning > "sum"; I was ok with either calling groupby thrice, or saving the > groupby and calling the different ops in sequence. In either case, a > database roundtrip per call. I'm often grouping thousands of rows

Re: django.contrib.formtools: High-level abstractions of common form tasks

2006-12-05 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 12/5/06, Ivan Sagalaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adrian Holovaty wrote: > > What other sorts of things can we make abstractions for, > > given a Form? > > First thing that comes to mind is the same thing you describe but > without preview. In other words it's what update_object generic view

Re: django.contrib.formtools: High-level abstractions of common form tasks

2006-12-05 Thread Ivan Sagalaev
Adrian Holovaty wrote: > Yes, *definitely*...That one is next on the list. I just wanted to make sure :-). I'm about to create a forum for my site and am waiting for this bit to use it and test it :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you a

Install issue wity MySQL on Windows

2006-12-05 Thread edelberry
I'm trying to get MySQL to work with Django. (I'm new to Django.) My installation runs successfully until I attach a database connector. PROBLEM: An error occurs when running *Python manage.py syncdb* after setting DATABASE_ENGINE = 'mysql' in settings.py. (I've omitted the other settings here

Re: Install issue wity MySQL on Windows

2006-12-05 Thread Julio Nobrega
On 12/5/06, edelberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ENVIRONMENT: > Windows XP Pro > Python 2.4 > Apache 2.2 > mod-python 3.2.10 > MySQL 5.0 Did you install a Python Mysql module? I use this one: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mysql-python -- Julio Nobrega - http://www.inerciasensorial.com.b

Re: RadioFieldRenderer support for __getitem__?

2006-12-05 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 11/14/06, shaunc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "__getitem__" in > django.forms.__init__.RadioSelectField.render.RadioFieldRenderer > > In this inner class (line 546), I have found it useful to have: > > def __getitem__( self, item ): > return self.datalist[ item ] He

Re: Install issue wity MySQL on Windows

2006-12-05 Thread edelberry
No I didn't. I'll take a look, Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this gr

active tickets with patches

2006-12-05 Thread Nikolaus Schlemm
hi, while I really appreciate all of django's exciting new developments, I wonder how some of workload could possibly be taken off the core developers' shoulders by helping them wade through the currently 175 active tickets with patches found on [1]. While it might be that someday I will encou

How to run unittest on django effectivly

2006-12-05 Thread Riquelme
as the title and is there a written code about unittest on django? plz share me. write me with gtalk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: How to run unittest on django effectivly

2006-12-05 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 12/6/06, Riquelme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > as the title > and is there a written code about unittest on django? > plz share me. This question should be directed to the users mailing list. The developers list is for discussion of development of Django itself, not for answering end-user

Re: active tickets with patches

2006-12-05 Thread Lakin Wecker
I am also interested in helping with this situation. I've run into quite a few patches that are reportedly working for some people.How do we help get these triaged? Lakin On 12/5/06, Nikolaus Schlemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > hi, > > while I really appreciate all of django's exciting

Re: Session renewal: want a patch?

2006-12-05 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 11/8/06, Jeremy Dunck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Currently, sessions are renewed only if 1) they're modified or 2) every > request. > > There's a middle ground that's useful: renew the session and cookie if > it's within X days of the session's current expiration. This keeps > cookies for u

Re: another ticket: related-object window is missing query ...

2006-12-05 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 10/26/06, patrickk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > when doing a search in the related-object window in the admin- > interface and using the link "xxx total" after that search, the query > is missing. > because "pop=1" is in the query, the header is shown ... Hi patrickk, I've fixed this in trunk

Re: enable trac's ticket_show_details option?

2006-12-05 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 10/27/06, Gary Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The ticket_show_details option [1] adds the ability for users to view > ticket detail changes in the timeline view. I think this would be nice > to have. > > [1] http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIni#timeline-section I've made the change to o

Re: active tickets with patches

2006-12-05 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 12/6/06, Lakin Wecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am also interested in helping with this situation. I've run into quite a > few patches that are reportedly working for some people.How do we help > get these triaged? Yes, there are 175 active tickets with patches in the database. How

Re: active tickets with patches

2006-12-05 Thread limodou
On 12/6/06, Russell Keith-Magee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12/6/06, Lakin Wecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am also interested in helping with this situation. I've run into quite a > > few patches that are reportedly working for some people.How do we help > > get these triaged?