Re: contrib proposal: django-values

2007-04-11 Thread Gulopine
On Apr 10, 6:51 pm, Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The zyons version allows for: > - constants at the site level (ie max blog comments can be different > on different sites) True, site-awareness would be a definite benefit that I hadn't yet included. > - allows users (registered and an

Re: contrib proposal: django-values

2007-04-11 Thread Gulopine
On Apr 10, 6:28 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How would a FileField or an ImageField work? How would the proposed > CreatedTimestamp/ModifiedTimestamp fields work? > ForeignKey? yikes. Very true. I hadn't considered the many fields that wouldn't even make sense themselves i

Re: contrib proposal: django-values

2007-04-10 Thread Ian Holsman
I have something similar to this in the Zyon's codebase. but I called it 'preferences' (see http://zyons.com/preferences/ ) The zyons version allows for: - constants at the site level (ie max blog comments can be different on different sites) - allows users (registered and anonymous) to set t

Re: contrib proposal: django-values

2007-04-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am not a fan of reusing the existing model fields classes for all the reasons you specified. How would a FileField or an ImageField work? How would the proposed CreatedTimestamp/ModifiedTimestamp fields work? ForeignKey? yikes. The added confusion for users and developers who are extending or c

Re: contrib proposal: django-values

2007-04-10 Thread Gulopine
In working a bit with this, I noticed something. Once these constant definitions are moved outside the main field namespace, there's no longer a clash of functionality between standard fields and these constant values. That clash was the primary reason I had to recreate the basic functionality of

Re: contrib proposal: django-values

2007-04-09 Thread Brian Beck
On Apr 9, 9:02 am, "Gulopine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, my first question is whether this could be designed to work > > without respect to models. For example, there are a lot of cases where > > views might refer to the same data, but not the same models. It would > > seem cleaner if ther

Re: contrib proposal: django-values

2007-04-09 Thread Gulopine
On Apr 8, 11:18 pm, "oggie rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, my first question is whether this could be designed to work > without respect to models. For example, there are a lot of cases where > views might refer to the same data, but not the same models. It would > seem cleaner if there were

Re: contrib proposal: django-values

2007-04-09 Thread Honza Král
On 4/9/07, Marc Fargas Esteve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On 4/8/07, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * The name "values" is a bit too abstract -- it took me a while to > > figure out exactly what this framework *does*. Maybe something like > > "editable constants" or "model-

Re: contrib proposal: django-values

2007-04-09 Thread Marc Fargas Esteve
Hi, On 4/8/07, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * The name "values" is a bit too abstract -- it took me a while to > figure out exactly what this framework *does*. Maybe something like > "editable constants" or "model-specific options" would be more clear. Isn't a constant supposed

Re: contrib proposal: django-values

2007-04-08 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 4/8/07, Max Battcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's a magic numbers (avoidance) framework. I know this is going to > sound like a joke, but what about calling it > django.contrib.magic_numbers? But we've *removed* the magic! :) I like the idea of thinking out of the box, though, along th

Re: contrib proposal: django-values

2007-04-08 Thread oggie rob
> I'm glad you like it! I really hope it does help many other people who > have a need for something like this. I'm very eager to hear what other > thoughts and questions you (and anyone else!) have about it. I'm glad > to clarify. > > -Gul Good timing! I was planning to look to something like th

Re: contrib proposal: django-values

2007-04-08 Thread Max Battcher
On 4/8/07, Gulopine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > * The name "values" is a bit too abstract -- it took me a while to > > figure out exactly what this framework *does*. Maybe something like > > "editable constants" or "model-specific options" would be more clear. > > I will admit that I never re

Re: contrib proposal: django-values

2007-04-08 Thread Gulopine
> * The name "values" is a bit too abstract -- it took me a while to > figure out exactly what this framework *does*. Maybe something like > "editable constants" or "model-specific options" would be more clear. I will admit that I never really had a clear idea on what to call it. I knew going in

Re: contrib proposal: django-values

2007-04-08 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 4/7/07, Gulopine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://code.google.com/p/django-values/ > > It is essentially an entire subframework, but it exists entirely as a > contrib app, utilizing newforms and standard Django permissions for > its value editor, and supplying class attributes for direct use

contrib proposal: django-values

2007-04-07 Thread Gulopine
Hey all, Many projects require a certain amount of calculations and other features that are based on organizational (or other) policies, rather than any technical requirements imposed by Python or Django. As those policies may change and evolve over time, programmers are often required to change