Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-08 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 11:49 -0500, Joseph Perla wrote: > Thanks for that thoughtful response. Let me just point to the > specific one I've been hoping to get through for the past couple > months, very small in scope and complete, that should be checked in: > http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/3

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-08 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 11:08 -0600, Jeremy Dunck wrote: > On 3/6/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A bunch of them have subsequently been notated as waiting until after > > 0.96 or they are for another branch. Some others are not no-brainers, so > > require some thought and for

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-08 Thread Michael Radziej
Jeremy Dunck schrieb: > On 3/8/07, Michael Radziej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Jeremy Dunck: >>> I wonder if, due to patches getting out of sync with trunk, tickets >>> that have been "Ready for Checkin" for longer than x weeks should go >>> back to Accepted? >> Why? As long as they apply, wha

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-08 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On 3/8/07, Michael Radziej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jeremy Dunck: > > I wonder if, due to patches getting out of sync with trunk, tickets > > that have been "Ready for Checkin" for longer than x weeks should go > > back to Accepted? > > Why? As long as they apply, what's the problem? Right-

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-08 Thread Michael Radziej
Jeremy Dunck: > I wonder if, due to patches getting out of sync with trunk, tickets > that have been "Ready for Checkin" for longer than x weeks should go > back to Accepted? Why? As long as they apply, what's the problem? Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You recei

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-08 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On 3/6/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A bunch of them have subsequently been notated as waiting until after > 0.96 or they are for another branch. Some others are not no-brainers, so > require some thought and for a committer to have a block of time > available to drop them in

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-08 Thread Joseph Perla
Thanks for that thoughtful response. Let me just point to the specific one I've been hoping to get through for the past couple months, very small in scope and complete, that should be checked in: http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/3182 . I assumed that since this simple one hasn't gone through,

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-06 Thread SmileyChris
On Mar 2, 11:31 am, "Rubic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One possibility would be to allow max_length to be > used as a maxlength attribute so applications could > begin to future-proof. The patch for this is waiting for checkin (minus Honza's suggestion of a depreciation note) http://code.django

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-06 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 17:39 -0500, Joseph Perla wrote: > They don't need to be in 0.96, but can someone at least check in the > tickets already decided as ready for check-in? > http://code.djangoproject.com/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&stage=Ready+for+checkin > Some of these h

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-06 Thread Joseph Perla
They don't need to be in 0.96, but can someone at least check in the tickets already decided as ready for check-in? http://code.djangoproject.com/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&stage=Ready+for+checkin Some of these have been complete and ready for 2 months. j On 3/6/07, Simon G.

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-06 Thread Simon G.
#3625 ( http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/3625 ) looks like a good candidate - it's a Python 2.3 issue with rsplit in the test system. It's been reported three times, so people are definitely running into it. 3625 has a simple patch to fix this. --Simon --~--~-~--~~~

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-05 Thread Lakin Wecker
On 2/25/07, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If there's a bug that's been annoying the heck out of you and you want > it fixed before the release, this would be the time to speak up about > it. We have a fairly high concentration of Django developers all in > one place with nothing to do

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+1 for me too On 2 mar, 05:33, "olive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +1 for me > > On Mar 1, 5:19 pm, "James Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 3/1/07, David Larlet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What about bug #2282? What's the actual status? A patch is proposed, > > > it doesn't su

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-02 Thread olive
+1 for me On Mar 1, 5:19 pm, "James Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/1/07, David Larlet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What about bug #2282? What's the actual status? A patch is proposed, > > it doesn't suit any case but it's a good start for a part of the > > world. > > It still need

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-01 Thread Honza Král
On 3/1/07, Rubic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 1, 3:12 pm, "James Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > AFAIK it will be migrated eventually to being 'max_length' everywhere, > > but probably not for this release because that's a > > backwards-incompatible change. > > One possibility woul

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-01 Thread Rubic
On Mar 1, 3:12 pm, "James Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AFAIK it will be migrated eventually to being 'max_length' everywhere, > but probably not for this release because that's a > backwards-incompatible change. One possibility would be to allow max_length to be used as a maxlength attri

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-01 Thread James Bennett
On 3/1/07, Kai Kuehne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could you decide on whether to name the attribute maxlength or max_length? > Well... it's not *that* important but it this is ugly, imho. AFAIK it will be migrated eventually to being 'max_length' everywhere, but probably not for this release bec

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-01 Thread Kai Kuehne
Could you decide on whether to name the attribute maxlength or max_length? Well... it's not *that* important but it this is ugly, imho. http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/3622 Greetings Kai PS: I like the mood here, thanks to everybody. :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-01 Thread James Bennett
On 3/1/07, David Larlet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about bug #2282? What's the actual status? A patch is proposed, > it doesn't suit any case but it's a good start for a part of the > world. It still needs a discussion and decision about how far we want to go to support (essentially) arbit

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-03-01 Thread David Larlet
> > If there's a bug that's been annoying the heck out of you and you want > > it fixed before the release, this would be the time to speak up about > What about bug #2282? What's the actual status? A patch is proposed, it doesn't suit any case but it's a good start for a part of the world. Chee

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-27 Thread Niels
> If there's a bug that's been annoying the heck out of you and you want > it fixed before the release, this would be the time to speak up about There one tiny bugfix in [3501] regarding the _sqlite_extract function that i'd like to see committed. It breaks the admin date_hierarchy filter for mod

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-27 Thread Massimiliano Ravelli
On Feb 27, 10:41 am, "Russell Keith-Magee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tried it, and it worked for me. Can you provide an example where it fails? I updated the trunk and it works perfectly. It was obviously my fault. Thank you very much. Massimiliano --~--~-~--~~~---

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-27 Thread Sandro Dentella
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 06:16:31PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I would like to see http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/3297 > implemented before 0.96 if possible. I definitely agree. And more It's a working one! I think that newforms are the true change in this releise. We need to try

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-27 Thread Massimiliano Ravelli
On 27 Feb, 10:41, "Russell Keith-Magee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tried it, and it worked for me. > Can you provide an example where it fails? I'll give it a deeper look tomorrow. I'll let you know. Thank you very much Massimiliano --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Y

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-27 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 2/27/07, Massimiliano Ravelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 26 Feb, 13:31, Michael Radziej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > #3253 has a working patch with documentation. I've closed yours as > > duplicate of #3253. > > Hi Micheal, Hi Russ > > >From ticket #3253: > "I didn't check whether it

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-27 Thread Massimiliano Ravelli
On 26 Feb, 13:31, Michael Radziej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > #3253 has a working patch with documentation. I've closed yours as > duplicate of #3253. Hi Micheal, Hi Russ >From ticket #3253: "I didn't check whether it actually works for manage.py test"; I made a quick test and it seems that i

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I would like to see http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/3297 implemented before 0.96 if possible. On 26 Feb, 19:09, "Rob Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 26, 9:46 am, "Jacob Kaplan-Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I've close #760 and #3335 with this comment: > > Design decisio

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-26 Thread Rob Hudson
On Feb 26, 9:46 am, "Jacob Kaplan-Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've close #760 and #3335 with this comment: Design decision: Django won't include default 404 and 500 templates. OK. But does that invalidate those bugs? The default templates were a possible solution to fix both of them. Bo

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-26 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On 2/26/07, Rob Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could we get a design decision on whether to add default, non-django > looking 404 and 500 templates? I've close #760 and #3335 with this comment: """ Django's not going to ever include a default 404 or 500 template. If we do, people won't be

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-26 Thread Rob Hudson
Could we get a design decision on whether to add default, non-django looking 404 and 500 templates? It seems pretty minor but important as there are 2 cases where switching from DEBUG=True in development to DEBUG=False for production could end up biting you... 1) With DEBUG=False and a 500 occur

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-26 Thread James Bennett
On 2/26/07, Espen Grindhaug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I got a little suggestion, and I think a lot of people agrees with me: > how about trying to merge one or two of the 100 development branches > into trunk. We can only merge a branch when it's done, and unfortunately there aren't many branc

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-26 Thread Espen Grindhaug
I got a little suggestion, and I think a lot of people agrees with me: how about trying to merge one or two of the 100 development branches into trunk. Anyhow once again thanks a lot for a great framework. Espen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message bec

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-26 Thread Brian Harring
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 12:04:29AM -0600, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > > On 2/25/07, Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/3440 , Models.__init__ > > refactoring. > > #3440 is fixed and has to do with DateQuerySet; did you mean #3438? Pardon, 3438 is the

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-26 Thread Michael Radziej
Russell Keith-Magee: > Oops :-). To make up for my boo boo, please accept [4608] Merci! Anyways, duplicates are unavoidable in the Django ticket djungle ;-) Michael -- noris network AG - Deutschherrnstraße 15-19 - D-90429 Nürnberg - Tel +49-911-9352-0 - Fax +49-911-9352-100 http://www.noris

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-26 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 2/26/07, Michael Radziej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think that a different exit code when one or more tests fail would > > really > > be helpful in case of automated tests. > > http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/3253 > > ;-) Oops :-). To make up for my boo boo, please accept [4608]

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-26 Thread Michael Radziej
Russell Keith-Magee: > Nice idea, and shouldn't be too much effort. I've logged the idea as > #3576 to make sure it doesn't get lost; I should get a chance to look > at it over the next few days. #3253 has a working patch with documentation. I've closed yours as duplicate of #3253. Michael --

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-26 Thread Michael Radziej
Massimiliano Ravelli: > Hi Russ, > I'm using your latest patch (ticket #2333) in my applications: > I find it useful and extremely fast ! > > I configured the svn repository of my django apps to work with > buildbot and > have all tests done each time a commit is performed. > > Buildbot runs "py

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-26 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 2/26/07, Massimiliano Ravelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Russ, > I'm using your latest patch (ticket #2333) in my applications: > I find it useful and extremely fast ! Glad you like it. > I think that a different exit code when one or more tests fail would > really > be helpful in case

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-26 Thread Massimiliano Ravelli
Hi Russ, I'm using your latest patch (ticket #2333) in my applications: I find it useful and extremely fast ! I configured the svn repository of my django apps to work with buildbot and have all tests done each time a commit is performed. Buildbot runs "python manage.py test" but shows the green

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-26 Thread Daniel Roseman
On 26 Feb, 04:56, "James Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If there's a bug that's been annoying the heck out of you and you want > it fixed before the release, this would be the time to speak up about > it. Because you did ask, the one that's annoying me most at the moment (and preventing me

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-25 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 2/26/07, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2/26/07, Russell Keith-Magee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > AFAIK, it is finished, just waiting for Adrian's ok. Is there > > something missing that I'm not aware of? > > Oh, I thought there was something missing *I* wasn't aware of :

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-25 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 2/26/07, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2/25/07, Rubic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In keeping with the overall theme of testing at this > > year's PyCon, it would be nice to have integrated > > testing (fixtures, ticket #2333) brought to resolution. > > I really, really,

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-25 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On 2/26/07, Russell Keith-Magee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AFAIK, it is finished, just waiting for Adrian's ok. Is there > something missing that I'm not aware of? Oh, I thought there was something missing *I* wasn't aware of :) Please go ahead and check it in! I'll focus on writing docs (and

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-25 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On 2/25/07, Rubic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In keeping with the overall theme of testing at this > year's PyCon, it would be nice to have integrated > testing (fixtures, ticket #2333) brought to resolution. I really, really, *really* agree, and I'm going to look at seeing if I can channel Russ

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-25 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On 2/25/07, Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/3440 , Models.__init__ > refactoring. #3440 is fixed and has to do with DateQuerySet; did you mean #3438? Jacob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-25 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On 2/25/07, Michael Radziej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One thing comes to my mind, supporting non-ASCII characters in newforms: Since newforms will still be "new" in 0.96, I'm could take or leave these before it. I'll try to get to 'em, though. > http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/FeatureGrou

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-25 Thread Rubic
In keeping with the overall theme of testing at this year's PyCon, it would be nice to have integrated testing (fixtures, ticket #2333) brought to resolution. It was great to briefly meet everyone over the past few days in Dallas. -- Jeff Bauer Rubicon, Inc. --~--~-~--~~---

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-25 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:56:36PM -0600, James Bennett wrote: > If there's a bug that's been annoying the heck out of you and you want > it fixed before the release, this would be the time to speak up about > it. http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/3440 , Models.__init__ refactoring. Fair amou

Re: Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Radziej
Hi James, James Bennett wrote: > If there's a bug that's been annoying the heck out of you and you want > it fixed before the release, this would be the time to speak up about > it. We have a fairly high concentration of Django developers all in > one place with nothing to do but code, so hopeful

Upcoming Django release, and the future

2007-02-25 Thread James Bennett
Upcoming Django release, and the future As we sit here in warm, sunny Dallas, meditating on how next year's PyCon will be in cold, cloudy Chicago, we're also getting ready to push out a new release of Django, and with that there are some things you all need to know, and as you