Re: Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-06-01 Thread Tom Tobin
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Re: Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-06-01 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
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Re: Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Adrian Holovaty wrote: > On 5/31/06, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I think you've missinterpreted the writings in the frot-page. > > OK, everybody, let's settle down... This is slowly turning into a > really lame argument that's not much fun to read. > > More smiles! More comrade

Re: Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 5/31/06, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you've missinterpreted the writings in the frot-page. OK, everybody, let's settle down... This is slowly turning into a really lame argument that's not much fun to read. More smiles! More comradery! More friendliness! Ilias, thank

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > On 01-Jun-06, at 12:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is actually one of the accepted Summer of Code projects for Django, so the best answer is perhaps to way until the end of the summer to see what happens with it. >>> I cannot wait so long and a

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
John Melesky wrote: > Ilias Lazaridis wrote: >> Comparing with other systems, this admin interface is one of the >> strongest points of Django. >> >> Remember that not every user is able to take all the setup barriers. > > If Django were an application intended to be used by end-users, then i >

Re: Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Jay Parlar wrote: > On 5/31/06, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And an efficient tool should assist a user to become productive immediately. >> >> http://case.lazaridis.com/multi/wiki/Product#Functionality >> >> There are webframeworks which provide this functionality. >> > > What e

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 01-Jun-06, at 12:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> This is actually one of the accepted Summer of Code projects for >>> Django, so the best answer is perhaps to way until the end of the >>> summer to see what happens with it. >> >> I cannot wait so long and additionally I sense several pr

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread John Melesky
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > Comparing with other systems, this admin interface is one of the > strongest points of Django. > > Remember that not every user is able to take all the setup barriers. If Django were an application intended to be used by end-users, then i might buy this argument. But it

Re: Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread Jay Parlar
On 5/31/06, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And an efficient tool should assist a user to become productive immediately. > > http://case.lazaridis.com/multi/wiki/Product#Functionality > > There are webframeworks which provide this functionality. > What exactly are you basing that c

Re: Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
James Bennett wrote: > On 5/31/06, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Please feel free to send me any concrete criticism about my website via >> private email (your comments are very welcome). > > I seem to have screwed that up by forgetting that replies go to the > list by default. My

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
James Bennett wrote: > On 5/25/06, lazaridis_com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * Replace command "django-admin.py" by "django-admin" or "django" Thanks for your reply, but the discussion has evolved a little. I had already replied to the reply of Mr. Joseph Kocherhans: http://groups.google.com/

Re: Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread James Bennett
On 5/31/06, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please feel free to send me any concrete criticism about my website via > private email (your comments are very welcome). I seem to have screwed that up by forgetting that replies go to the list by default. My apologies for the mistake. --

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread James Bennett
On 5/25/06, lazaridis_com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Replace command "django-admin.py" by "django-admin" or "django" Naming it 'django' would likely cause confusion, leading users to believe that it runs an entire Django-powered site. There is a web server built in to it, but this web server

Re: Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Jay Parlar wrote: > On 5/31/06, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Additionally: The fact that I have _not_ the full domain knowledge (= >> background information) enables me to make those "sweeping suggestions" >> from a newcomers point of view (who cares not much about project details

Re: Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread James Bennett
On 5/31/06, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The term 'Audit' explained here: > > http://case.lazaridis.com/multi/wiki/ProjectOverview That page is a lot of marketing speak along with a note that open source projects can order your services at a "reduced rate". So now you sound like y

Re: Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread Jay Parlar
On 5/31/06, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Additionally: The fact that I have _not_ the full domain knowledge (= > background information) enables me to make those "sweeping suggestions" > from a newcomers point of view (who cares not much about project details > and internals, but j

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Tom Tobin wrote: > On 5/31/06, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: >>> On May 25, 2006, at 11:27 AM, lazaridis_com wrote: >>> At this point, Django's persistency layer seems intresting, but the evaluation uncovered a few weaknesses, most importantly the

Re: Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
James Bennett wrote: > On 5/31/06, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Additionally: The fact that I have _not_ the full domain knowledge (= >> background information) enables me to make those "sweeping suggestions" >> from a newcomers point of view (who cares not much about project deta

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> This is actually one of the accepted Summer of Code projects for >>> Django, so the best answer is perhaps to way until the end of the >>> summer to see what happens with it. >> I cannot wait so long and additionally I sense several problems for the >> SoC project: >>

Re: Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread James Bennett
On 5/31/06, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Additionally: The fact that I have _not_ the full domain knowledge (= > background information) enables me to make those "sweeping suggestions" > from a newcomers point of view (who cares not much about project details > and internals, but j

Re: Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I assume "Adrian Holovaty" is the Django Project Lead? >> >> Is there a Team Overview available? > > Disclaimer: I don't intend this to be rude, so forgive me if it sounds > that way... > > Is it possible, given you haven't read the very first link on the > Django Sit

Re: Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I assume "Adrian Holovaty" is the Django Project Lead? > > Is there a Team Overview available? Disclaimer: I don't intend this to be rude, so forgive me if it sounds that way... Is it possible, given you haven't read the very first link on the Django Site (http://www.djangoproject.com/document

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread public
>> This is actually one of the accepted Summer of Code projects for >> Django, so the best answer is perhaps to way until the end of the >> summer to see what happens with it. > > I cannot wait so long and additionally I sense several problems for the > SoC project: > > http://case.lazaridis.com/m

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread Tom Tobin
On 5/31/06, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > > On May 25, 2006, at 11:27 AM, lazaridis_com wrote: > > > >> At this point, Django's persistency layer seems intresting, but the > >> evaluation uncovered a few weaknesses, most importantly the lack of > >> sche

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-31 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > On May 25, 2006, at 11:27 AM, lazaridis_com wrote: > >> At this point, Django's persistency layer seems intresting, but the >> evaluation uncovered a few weaknesses, most importantly the lack of >> schema evolution support: > > This is actually one of the accepted Summ

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-26 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Joseph Kocherhans wrote: > On 5/25/06, lazaridis_com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> At this point, Django's persistency layer seems intresting, but the >> evaluation uncovered a few weaknesses, most importantly the lack of >> schema evolution support: >> >> http://case.lazaridis.com/multi/wiki/Djan

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-25 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 26 May 2006 8:14 am, Eugene Lazutkin wrote: > > This is actually one of the accepted Summer of Code projects > > for   Django, so the best answer is perhaps to way until the > > end of the summer to see what happens with it. > > ...or he can discuss it with Derek Anderson (the student) a

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-25 Thread Eugene Lazutkin
Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > >> schema evolution support: > > This is actually one of the accepted Summer of Code projects for > Django, so the best answer is perhaps to way until the end of the > summer to see what happens with it. ...or he can discuss it with Derek Anderson (the student) an

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-25 Thread Derek Anderson
and i would be said SoC applicant. :) Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Thursday 25 May 2006 10:43 pm, Joseph Kocherhans wrote: >> Schema evolution support has already been discussed at length. >> See: http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/SchemaEvolution but it's >> not implemented yet. > > there is

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-25 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 25 May 2006 10:43 pm, Joseph Kocherhans wrote: > Schema evolution support has already been discussed at length. > See: http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/SchemaEvolution but it's > not implemented yet. there is a django soc project for this -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-25 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On May 25, 2006, at 11:27 AM, lazaridis_com wrote: > At this point, Django's persistency layer seems intresting, but the > evaluation uncovered a few weaknesses, most importantly the lack of > schema evolution support: This is actually one of the accepted Summer of Code projects for Django, so

Re: [AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-25 Thread Joseph Kocherhans
On 5/25/06, lazaridis_com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At this point, Django's persistency layer seems intresting, but the > evaluation uncovered a few weaknesses, most importantly the lack of > schema evolution support: > > http://case.lazaridis.com/multi/wiki/DjangoProductEvaluation Schema ev

[AUDIT] Enable Django Quick Start / Database Evolution Support

2006-05-25 Thread lazaridis_com
For a long term project, I am selecting a python based persistency system: http://case.lazaridis.com/multi/wiki/Persist At this point, Django's persistency layer seems intresting, but the evaluation uncovered a few weaknesses, most importantly the lack of schema evolution support: http://case.l