Re: Django ORM support for NoSql databases

2013-12-18 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Javier Guerra Giraldez wrote: > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:18 PM, > wrote: > > > > Wouldn't an easy (i.e. straightforward) solution be to add an Django > "ODM" > > that mirrors the ORM wherever it makes sense? This sounds pretty close > to > > your second soluti

Re: Django ORM support for NoSql databases

2013-12-18 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:18 AM, wrote: > > > On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:12:43 PM UTC-6, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: >> >> >> My claim is that complete abstraction of the data store shouldn't be the >> goal. What we should be aiming for is sufficient API compatibility to allow >> for two thing

Re: Django ORM support for NoSql databases

2013-12-18 Thread Javier Guerra Giraldez
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:18 PM, wrote: > > Wouldn't an easy (i.e. straightforward) solution be to add an Django "ODM" > that mirrors the ORM wherever it makes sense? This sounds pretty close to > your second solution, except choosing SQL vs NoSQL means users make a more > explicit choice wheth

Re: Django ORM support for NoSql databases

2013-12-18 Thread chris . foresman
On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:12:43 PM UTC-6, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > > > My claim is that complete abstraction of the data store shouldn't be the > goal. What we should be aiming for is sufficient API compatibility to allow > for two things: > > * ModelForms wrapping a model from a NoS

Re: Django ORM support for NoSql databases

2013-12-17 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Aymeric Augustin < aymeric.augus...@polytechnique.org> wrote: > On 17 déc. 2013, at 20:38, Karen Tracey wrote: > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/django-developers/0IuJssTt8tc/TxdXQ2D0thcJ > > > Interesting. Now I remember reading that message last year. I have t

Re: Django ORM support for NoSql databases

2013-12-17 Thread Aymeric Augustin
On 17 déc. 2013, at 19:53, Javier Guerra Giraldez wrote: > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Aymeric Augustin > wrote: >> Django’s ORM is entirely designed to translate between an object oriented >> API and SQL. That’s what its name says. It achieves this through roughly >> five layers that br

Re: Django ORM support for NoSql databases

2013-12-17 Thread Aymeric Augustin
On 17 déc. 2013, at 20:38, Karen Tracey wrote: > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/django-developers/0IuJssTt8tc/TxdXQ2D0thcJ Interesting. Now I remember reading that message last year. I have three reactions. First, Russell and I agree that the interest has faded. Currently, the best option is

Re: Django ORM support for NoSql databases

2013-12-17 Thread Javier Guerra Giraldez
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Aymeric Augustin wrote: > Django’s ORM is entirely designed to translate between an object oriented API > and SQL. That’s what its name says. It achieves this through roughly five > layers that bride the abstraction gap. > > Django’s ORM is fundamentally tied to

Re: Django ORM support for NoSql databases

2013-12-17 Thread Alex Burgel
On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:16:04 PM UTC-5, Aymeric Augustin wrote: > > Django’s ORM is entirely designed to translate between an object oriented > API and SQL. That’s what its name says. It achieves this through roughly > five layers that bride the abstraction gap. > > Django’s ORM is fund

Re: Django ORM support for NoSql databases

2013-12-17 Thread Karen Tracey
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Aymeric Augustin < aymeric.augus...@polytechnique.org> wrote: > On 17 déc. 2013, at 19:53, Javier Guerra Giraldez > wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Aymeric Augustin > > wrote: > >> Django’s ORM is entirely designed to translate between an object >

Re: Django ORM support for NoSql databases

2013-12-17 Thread Alioune Dia
even Java for that reason. > > Waiting for official Django ORM support for NoSql databases. > > Thanks > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group a

Re: Django ORM support for NoSql databases

2013-12-17 Thread Tom Evans
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Chris Wilson wrote: > Hi all, > > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Tom Evans wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:35 PM, parisrocks >> wrote: >>> >>> Waiting for official Django ORM support for NoSql databases. >> >

Re: Django ORM support for NoSql databases

2013-12-17 Thread Aymeric Augustin
Hi Chris, On 17 déc. 2013, at 17:50, Chris Wilson wrote: > There is no particular reason NOT to do it, unless one wants Django's ORM > layer to remain fundamentally tied to SQL. I don’t understand your sentence. To me it’s as if you were saying “there is no particular reason NOT to relay emai

Re: Django ORM support for NoSql databases

2013-12-17 Thread Chris Wilson
Hi all, On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Tom Evans wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:35 PM, parisrocks wrote: Waiting for official Django ORM support for NoSql databases. MongoDB (and the vast majority of NoSQL databases) are not relational databases, they are document oriented databases, they store

Re: Django ORM support for NoSql databases

2013-12-17 Thread Tom Evans
oSQL users waiting for an official > ORM support from Django like me. I would say Django with NoSQL ORM support > could actually make it more popular compared to its rivals Ruby on Rails or > even Java for that reason. > > Waiting for official Django ORM support for NoSql databa

Django ORM support for NoSql databases

2013-12-17 Thread parisrocks
would say Django with NoSQL ORM support could actually make it more popular compared to its rivals Ruby on Rails or even Java for that reason. Waiting for official Django ORM support for NoSql databases. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Dj