Re: Django 1.6 and migrating to the new test runner: note on user experience

2013-10-12 Thread Christopher Medrela
I was working at system check framework [1] during this holiday. I've done some changes that will solve all problems considered in this thread. Maybe I'm a careless kind of guy, but when I test out new versions of > Django, reading all of the release notes is rarely the first thing that > I do...

Re: Django 1.6 and migrating to the new test runner: note on user experience

2013-10-01 Thread Carl Meyer
On 10/01/2013 06:36 AM, Ivan Kharlamov wrote: > On 09/27/2013 09:01 PM, Carl Meyer wrote: >> On 09/27/2013 03:07 AM, Ivan Kharlamov wrote: > Thank you for considering a fix! > > Personally, I'd prefer a solution proposed by Shai, which is (5). I commented in my reply to Shai why I don't think (5)

Re: Django 1.6 and migrating to the new test runner: note on user experience

2013-10-01 Thread Carl Meyer
Hi Shai, On 09/27/2013 05:42 PM, Shai Berger wrote: > On Friday 27 September 2013 20:01:00 Carl Meyer wrote: >> 3) A first-run warning that can be turned off (and presumably would be >> off by default in new projects). The obvious mechanism for turning it >> off would be something in settings. Tha

Re: Django 1.6 and migrating to the new test runner: note on user experience

2013-10-01 Thread Ivan Kharlamov
Hi, Carl, On 09/27/2013 09:01 PM, Carl Meyer wrote: > Hi Ivan, > > On 09/27/2013 03:07 AM, Ivan Kharlamov wrote: >> Maybe I'm a careless kind of guy, but when I test out new versions of >> Django, reading all of the release notes is rarely the first thing that >> I do... my bad. :) My first actio

Re: Django 1.6 and migrating to the new test runner: note on user experience

2013-09-27 Thread Shai Berger
On Friday 27 September 2013 20:01:00 Carl Meyer wrote: > > 1) The status quo. If people run the new "manage.py check" command, > they'll get a warning directing them to the release notes. But given > that "manage.py check" is new, its unlikely anyone would run it unless > they've already read the

Re: Django 1.6 and migrating to the new test runner: note on user experience

2013-09-27 Thread Carl Meyer
Hi Ivan, On 09/27/2013 03:07 AM, Ivan Kharlamov wrote: > Maybe I'm a careless kind of guy, but when I test out new versions of > Django, reading all of the release notes is rarely the first thing that > I do... my bad. :) My first action is usually firing up the test suites > and looking at the nu

Django 1.6 and migrating to the new test runner: note on user experience

2013-09-27 Thread Ivan Kharlamov
Hi! Maybe I'm a careless kind of guy, but when I test out new versions of Django, reading all of the release notes is rarely the first thing that I do... my bad. :) My first action is usually firing up the test suites and looking at the number of failed tests and deprecation warnings. As we all k