Michael Radziej wrote:
> I like Django, perhaps I rather contribute
> more tiny stuff of which I feel that it will get integrated, and I have
> my own patchset for Django. So what? It works fine for me. Why should I
> turn to a different framework when I like the concept and code (and the
> docs!)
Hi,
let me add my own view, and this is not a direct answer to Ian but more
to the whole thread.
I personally got frustrated about the way tickets are handled. And sure,
Adrian is currently a very scarce and important resource. There's
written enough about that and I don't want to deepen it agai
On 11/4/06, iain duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have to say that I think you're confusing arrogance with a desire to
> > do things *RIGHT*, and a lack of time on the part of the core devs.
>
> This however is part of the issue. With rapid growth comes that lack of
> time for the founders.
> I'd just like to point out a counter-example to those arguing that the
> core developers don't listen to criticism. There was a post recently
> to django-users called "Why I'm giving up on Django" :
Agreed. I would like to point out that I am not saying the core doesn't
listen. I'm not trying
Hi all,
I'd just like to point out a counter-example to those arguing that the
core developers don't listen to criticism. There was a post recently
to django-users called "Why I'm giving up on Django" :
http://groups.google.com/group/django-users/browse_thread/thread/394701c83497e405/f85b5013b6
But I think you need
to take my comments and the other two postes *as examples*. We *are*
your examples right there. And I certainly do not expect my voice alone
to make anyone change their mind about anything. My example and the
other two just get added to the pile labelled "people who think the
> well, then I do. I´m scared away. why? exactly because of what james
> is writing here.
> it seems that noone except the "core developers" are allowed to
> criticize django - whenever something like this comes up on the list,
> there´s someone who fights the arguments tooth and nail. there´s no
t is much
easier to dive into, and has been well tested. But that path also
necessitates a greater change in working habits and dev policy when
coupled with rapid growth, if the goal is to build a killer dev
community. And personally, I think that's critical, *that's* what made
the linux
James Bennett wrote:
> I would like to see examples of this; I have a pretty comprehensive
> set of ego searches and tag subscriptions for Django-related postings,
> and I don't get the "Django is closed, don't bother trying to get
> involved" vibe as much as you apparently do.
Smart people don't
> So far as I can tell, our biggest long-term management problem right
> now is not one of scaring developers away, it's one of keeping track
> of all the people who want to get involved and all the things they
> want to do. You haven't yet provided an example to the contrary.
well, then I do. I´
On 11/4/06, iain duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Every single comparison of Gears to Django I have read say something to
> the effect of "Gears is more community based". I think that's pretty
> clear if you read between the lines. And part of what I'm going on about
> is addressed in your blog
> I would like to see examples of this; I have a pretty comprehensive
> set of ego searches and tag subscriptions for Django-related postings,
> and I don't get the "Django is closed, don't bother trying to get
> involved" vibe as much as you apparently do. So I'd really be
> interested to see exa
thing but comments in Trac), or discussion which isn't
accompanied by any code.
In other words, I'd dispute that there is a suitable objective
yardstick for measuring the "appropriate" level of posting to the dev
list.
> Ok, on this point, I totally disagree. This is exactly what I
, and in fact that tends to happen a lot. Generally,
> when that happens people post followups publicly somewhere, though the
> followups often appear on blogs; I think that's an acceptable thing to
> do. Adrian also does a great job of posting news to the official blog
> when appro
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