> Plainly put, the system should work without requiring configuration.
I agree!
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On 8/8/07, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> What I *do* think is worth fixing is allowing the template system to
> be used on its own, for the simple, common case, without having to
> configure stuff. This is what I was trying to explain in my last
> e-mail. Tom, if we solved that, w
On 8/8/07, Tom Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think there's a good psychological / community case to be made for
> making django.template available standalone; as I put it earlier, many
> people just don't like importing stuff they don't intend to use, no
> matter how small it may be byte-wi
On 8/8/07, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 8/8/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A couple of other areas are going to be at least equally as
> > interesting...
>
> Malcolm has made some *really* good points throughout this thread, and
> I'm convinced that goin
On 8/8/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A couple of other areas are going to be at least equally as
> interesting...
Malcolm has made some *really* good points throughout this thread, and
I'm convinced that going down this path would be a not-so-good idea.
My opinion on it at
On 8/8/07, Robert Coup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 08/08/2007, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 8/8/07, Tom Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'd ideally like the Django installer to detect if django.template was
> > > already on the system, and drop Django into the sam
On 08/08/2007, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On 8/8/07, Tom Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'd ideally like the Django installer to detect if django.template was
> > already on the system, and drop Django into the same spot. As far as
> > versioning, Django should check for
On 8/8/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A couple of other areas are going to be at least equally as
> interesting...
I hereby amend my list of worries to include Malcolm's ;)
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On 8/8/07, Tom Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd ideally like the Django installer to detect if django.template was
> already on the system, and drop Django into the same spot. As far as
> versioning, Django should check for a minimum version of Django
> templates (i.e., the version at the t
On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 00:27 -0500, Tom Tobin wrote:
> On 8/7/07, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> > * Figuring out the settings stuff could be tricky.
>
> Absolutely agreed; this is where most of the fun is going to come in. ^_^
A couple of other areas are going to be at least
On 8/7/07, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> This would be great, as long as you could figure out how to make it
> backwards compatible. Thanks for volunteering! :-)
>
> Here are some broad goals/thoughts, IMHO:
>
> * Users of Django the framework should not be affected in any way.
>
On 8/7/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 17:39 -0500, Tom Tobin wrote:
> > At the end of the angsty autoescaping thread (said angst in no small
> > part from my direction ^_^), I floated the idea that perhaps my
> > concern over autoescaping was pointed in
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 23:17 -0500, Gary Wilson wrote:
> Malcolm Tredinnick wrote:
> > I want to hear the use-case first. I may change my mind, but nobody's
> > come up with a good reason so far.
>
> How about looking at things from the opposite direction? Yes, it would
> be nice if the Django te
Malcolm Tredinnick wrote:
> I want to hear the use-case first. I may change my mind, but nobody's
> come up with a good reason so far.
How about looking at things from the opposite direction? Yes, it would
be nice if the Django template system could be more easily used
standalone, but by doing t
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 19:03 -0500, James Bennett wrote:
> On 8/7/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I want to hear the use-case first. I may change my mind, but nobody's
> > come up with a good reason so far.
>
> I think Tom's primary goal is to provide an easy path to use the
On 8/7/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to hear the use-case first. I may change my mind, but nobody's
> come up with a good reason so far.
I think Tom's primary goal is to provide an easy path to use the
Django template system in non-HTML contexts without having to worr
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 18:17 -0500, Adrian Holovaty wrote:
> On 8/7/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Please, no.
> >
> > The main problems are
>
> Well, then -- I did a great job of contradicting your e-mail, with my
> own message. :-)
Nah .. you were just using a softer stic
On 8/7/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please, no.
>
> The main problems are
Well, then -- I did a great job of contradicting your e-mail, with my
own message. :-)
Adrian
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On 8/7/07, Tom Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since I've been championing the use of Django's template library as a
> general purpose library, and spending plenty of time in the guts of
> the template code while writing the taghelpers module, I may as well
> step up and offer to do this.
This
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 17:39 -0500, Tom Tobin wrote:
> At the end of the angsty autoescaping thread (said angst in no small
> part from my direction ^_^), I floated the idea that perhaps my
> concern over autoescaping was pointed in the wrong direction -- that it
> might be time to split Django's t
At the end of the angsty autoescaping thread (said angst in no small
part from my direction ^_^), I floated the idea that perhaps my
concern over autoescaping was pointed in the wrong direction -- that it
might be time to split Django's template module out into a standalone
library. The idea has b
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