On Mar 9, 8:13 pm, Karen Tracey wrote:
> I still see no reason to change it. I, personally, haven't noticed any
> convergence on a standard starting weekday of Monday in everyday life -- all
> my wall calendars (3) start with Sunday, though my desk calendar starts with
> Monday. Granted it's a b
On Mar 9, 11:48 am, Malcolm Tredinnick
wrote:
> So what??? Nobody actually does print out those standards and read them
> and it takes approximately 3 seconds, if you think very slowly, to be
> able to handle Sunday as the first day of the week if you were
> previously handling Monday.
True, i d
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Casper Star wrote:
> On Mar 9, 11:48 am, Malcolm Tredinnick
> wrote:
> > This is getting ridiculous.
>
> This seems to move towards some kind of religious war (this is
> ridiculous by its very nature) and I surely could live we either
> decision . But I would expe
On Mar 9, 11:48 am, Malcolm Tredinnick
wrote:
> This is getting ridiculous.
This seems to move towards some kind of religious war (this is
ridiculous by its very nature) and I surely could live we either
decision . But I would expect django as a python webframework to mimic
the python implemen
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote:
>
> This is getting ridiculous.
>
> On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 03:20 -0700, Semmel wrote:
> > On Mar 6, 7:24 am, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
> > > Both options are supported _in many cases_. Not _all_ cases. The
> > > Sunday=1 case is supported
This is getting ridiculous.
On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 03:20 -0700, Semmel wrote:
> On Mar 6, 7:24 am, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
> > Both options are supported _in many cases_. Not _all_ cases. The
> > Sunday=1 case is supported by all the backends.
>
> Imho that's no real argument. Yeah, i can und
On Mar 6, 7:24 am, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
> Both options are supported _in many cases_. Not _all_ cases. The
> Sunday=1 case is supported by all the backends.
Imho that's no real argument. Yeah, i can understand why this was
choosen in the first way (because it's somehow easier to implement)
> Would it be possible to use cron's weekday numbering? Would that make
> anyone happy?
>
> 0-7, with both 0 and 7 representing Sunday. That would at least avoid
> the %7 part of the workaround (from the user's perspective, anyway).
I think that would be a very good compromise. I'll happily work
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Tai Lee wrote:
>
> In my bike shed (and cron's), Sunday is 0 AND 7, which seems nice.
> Then your week can starting with Sunday as 0-6 or Monday as 1-7.
>
> Oh, I see that Bob Thomas already suggested this. Isn't it a moot
> point, though? Isn't it considered a ba
Although in Brazil Sunday is not considered a business day, it's considered
the first day of the week. I believe the same occurrs in most Latin America.
I cannot see where a such decision can influence much in a development
environment. Most programming languanges/frameworks/APIs/whatever consider
On Friday 06 March 2009, Ivan Sagalaev wrote:
>
> I was always under an impression that Sunday is considered first day of
> week only in US. Now Wikipedia (though not the English version) says
> it's also the case for Canada and Israel. But it's still a minority.
In Israel, as well as most Arab c
In my bike shed (and cron's), Sunday is 0 AND 7, which seems nice.
Then your week can starting with Sunday as 0-6 or Monday as 1-7.
Oh, I see that Bob Thomas already suggested this. Isn't it a moot
point, though? Isn't it considered a backwards incompatible change
even if made before 1.1? Or is
On 07/03/2009, at 2:17 AM, Ivan Sagalaev wrote:
>
> Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
>> Semmel and yourself both hang your arguments on the claim that Monday
>> as the start of the week is the "most supported" option, or the "most
>> common" option. I simply don't see any evidence that this is the
>>
Just my two cents. There is at least one other part of the framework
which considers Sunday as the first day:
django.utils.dateformat.DateFormat (and hence some template tags).
Personally i find it annoying but at least this behaviour is
consistent over the framework and that's good.
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Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
> Semmel and yourself both hang your arguments on the claim that Monday
> as the start of the week is the "most supported" option, or the "most
> common" option. I simply don't see any evidence that this is the case.
I was always under an impression that Sunday is consi
Would it be possible to use cron's weekday numbering? Would that make
anyone happy?
0-7, with both 0 and 7 representing Sunday. That would at least avoid
the %7 part of the workaround (from the user's perspective, anyway).
The "Monday as first day" camp could use 1-7 for their week numbering,
an
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Jannis Leidel wrote:
>
> Am 05.03.2009 um 12:24 schrieb Russell Keith-Magee:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Semmel wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi fellow developers.
>>>
>>> I think that the choice for Sunday being the first day of the week is
>>> an obvious but really b
I wonder if it is not better to hang this issue as another bullet-point on the
I18N ticket[1], like Oracle seems[2] to do.
To prevent repetitions of %7+1 code like the example given in Semmel's
ticket[3], I think a cleaner approach would be to let the week_day filter
take a date parameter as
Am 05.03.2009 um 12:24 schrieb Russell Keith-Magee:
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Semmel wrote:
>>
>> Hi fellow developers.
>>
>> I think that the choice for Sunday being the first day of the week is
>> an obvious but really bad choice.
>>
>> View my ticket here: http://code.djangoproject.co
On 5 Mrz., 12:24, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
> I agree with the Karen's comment when she closed your ticket wontfix.
> There is no absolute answer to this question; no matter what value you
> choose, there will be inconveniences. The conversion - if it is
> required - isn't an expensive or diffic
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Semmel wrote:
>
> Hi fellow developers.
>
> I think that the choice for Sunday being the first day of the week is
> an obvious but really bad choice.
>
> View my ticket here: http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/10345
...
> I think that this choice is not good in a
Hi fellow developers.
I think that the choice for Sunday being the first day of the week is
an obvious but really bad choice.
View my ticket here: http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/10345
My thoughts about this:
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#7672 introduced a new lookup type for weekdays that was committed in
[9818].
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