Re: Provide free, simple, small-scale hosting for new users

2015-06-04 Thread Tim Graham
>From a docs perspective, I'd rather not be responsible for reviewing tutorials from XYZ companies and having to worry about merging updates to them, etc. A curated wiki page seems like a reasonable place to start if someone wants to coordinate that. I am a bit afraid we will might be overwhelm

Re: Provide free, simple, small-scale hosting for new users

2015-06-04 Thread Josh Smeaton
There's definite room for improvement with regards to the deployment story at the end of the tutorial. I don't think pointing people to hosting companies is the right way to go though, because they're not getting information on how to deploy from those links. > There could be an argument to doc

Re: Provide free, simple, small-scale hosting for new users

2015-06-04 Thread Markus Amalthea Magnuson
Would it make sense to have at least something about live deployment at the end of the tutorial? Among other things, it could mention https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DjangoFriendlyWebHosts and/or http://djangofriendly.com/ On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:25 PM, Marc Tamlyn wrote: > Heroku also of

Re: Extending contrib.admindocs functionality

2015-06-04 Thread Marc Tamlyn
This seems like a good idea to me. I'm not convinced that the original use case for admin docs (documenting features which only work in templates for the template author) is valid any more - especially with a Django in which you can use jinja2 easily where function calls are allowed. The separation

Re: Provide free, simple, small-scale hosting for new users

2015-06-04 Thread Marc Tamlyn
Heroku also offers free hosting of a sort. The DSF has nowhere near the financial muscle or human resources to provide such a service. There could be an argument to document possible free hosting platforms, but the django project generally avoids advertising any particular company (or third party p

Re: More components in Trac for non-technical aspects

2015-06-04 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Tim Graham wrote: > I think we should keep Trac focused on tracking bugs. The dsf-members > mailing list seems like a natural place to raise these ideas, although > that's a more limited audience, so I'd feel free to raise them here unless > someone else can sugges

Re: Provide free, simple, small-scale hosting for new users

2015-06-04 Thread Tim Graham
PythonAnyware provides free hosting and that's what the Django Girls tutorial uses: http://tutorial.djangogirls.org/en/deploy/README.html I don't think the Django Software Foundation needs to build a service like that. On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 11:08:01 AM UTC-4, Markus Amalthea Magnuson wr

Re: More components in Trac for non-technical aspects

2015-06-04 Thread Tim Graham
I think we should keep Trac focused on tracking bugs. The dsf-members mailing list seems like a natural place to raise these ideas, although that's a more limited audience, so I'd feel free to raise them here unless someone else can suggest a better place. On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 11:10:25

More components in Trac for non-technical aspects

2015-06-04 Thread Markus Amalthea Magnuson
Another idea spawned during DjangoCon Europe: Would it make sense to have more non-technical components in Trac? I'm thinking of e.g. "Inclusion" that tracks how the project presents itself to new users, "Diversity" for tracking improvements to various such aspects, etc. etc. These are just a c

Provide free, simple, small-scale hosting for new users

2015-06-04 Thread Markus Amalthea Magnuson
Had discussions on an idea during DjangoCon Europe that I thought I'd just throw out there on this list as well: What if the Django project provided free hosting for small projects, so that any newcomer who went through the tutorial or similar could actually deploy their application somewhere i

Extending contrib.admindocs functionality

2015-06-04 Thread Žan Anderle
contrib.admindocs will only document template tags and functions that can be invoked from templates. Therefore it has limited use. It would be really useful to be able to document all of the functions in the models (not just the ones that don't take any arguments). contrib.admindocs is a neat wa

Re: (Model)formsets, passing custom kwargs to form and _construct_form

2015-06-04 Thread Sergei Maertens
Relevant ticket: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/18166 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 6:42:40 PM UTC+2, Sergei Maertens wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've quite often found myself needing to pass custom kwargs to each form > within a formset (common parameter for all forms). A common pattern for >

Feature: URL template tag, optional parameters

2015-06-04 Thread erez . oxman
Hi, AFAIK, the recommended way in Django to handle multiple urls with the same view, is to have optional parameters. (https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.8/topics/http/urls/#specifying-defaults-for-view-arguments) For example, in url.py: url(r'^blog/page/(?P\d+)/$', views.page, name='view-pa

Re: Idea: Better support for javascript heavy sites

2015-06-04 Thread Emil Stenström
On Saturday, 30 May 2015 18:51:33 UTC+2, Emil Stenström wrote: > > A couple of weeks ago I held a presentation on PyCon Sweden 2015 with > the title "Why Django Sucks". The idea was to follow in the footsteps of > great conference talks like these: > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYrvl