Re: Experimental APIs DEP

2014-12-07 Thread Carl Meyer
On 12/07/2014 04:37 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > For my money, the role of this policy change isn't to introduce > instability into Django's process. The role is to give us permission to > introduce features which we might not otherwise land (or might delay in > landing) due to fears over wheth

Re: Experimental APIs DEP

2014-12-07 Thread Carl Meyer
On 12/07/2014 04:37 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > To my mind, the role of this new status is closer to "provisional", > rather than "experimental". It's a recognition of the fact that no > matter how many times we ask for pre-release testing, the first *real* > test of any API is when it sees re

Re: Experimental APIs DEP

2014-12-07 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Michael Manfre wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Russell Keith-Magee < > russ...@keith-magee.com> wrote: > >> * The corollary of this last point is that the release *before* a stable >> release can't have any experimental/provisional features. >> > > D

Re: Experimental APIs DEP

2014-12-07 Thread Michael Manfre
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > * The corollary of this last point is that the release *before* a stable > release can't have any experimental/provisional features. > Does this mean that there should be no experimental/provisional features in an LTS? Regards, Mich

Fellow Report: Dec 7, 2014

2014-12-07 Thread Berker Peksağ
Hi all, Here is this week's report. You can see a more readable version of this report at https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DjangoFellows/BerkerPeksag#Weekof2014-12-01 Pull requests = Authored = * [Committed] https://github.com/django/django/pull/3671 -- Fixed "no such test

Re: Experimental APIs DEP

2014-12-07 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Shai Berger wrote: > I like the general idea of experimental API, although Carl and Aymeric's > notes > are important: If we do this, we need to very picky in its use, or else it > just becomes an easy route to avoid committment. In particular, there > should > be

Re: Experimental APIs DEP

2014-12-07 Thread Shai Berger
I like the general idea of experimental API, although Carl and Aymeric's notes are important: If we do this, we need to very picky in its use, or else it just becomes an easy route to avoid committment. In particular, there should be a hard-and-fast rule that nothing should be made an "experimen

Re: uuid field short websafe representation

2014-12-07 Thread Florian Apolloner
+1 to everything you said, if someone wants a "websafe" representation, they can always just manually call safe_uuid on the UUID instance. On Saturday, December 6, 2014 6:00:58 PM UTC+1, Michael Manfre wrote: > > A non-standard, compressed unique value is not a UUID. Also, this forces > database