Re: Checking if my patch would be a useful contribution

2010-08-15 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Swizec Teller wrote: > Hi all, > > brand new django contributor here, been using it so much I reckon it's > about time I started giving back :) > > Anyhow, I'm using Django primarily to develop RESTful API's for web > services. This of course means a lot of JSON is

Re: Trac issues review

2010-08-15 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:41 PM, burc...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Russell, > > Thanks for clarifications of the process, but it seems I explained > some things wrong. > > I see some issues have the following problems: > 1) second core developer review takes a year, > 2) reviewers like me who are not

Re: dev process [was: #11834: colorized debug page]

2010-08-15 Thread Tobias McNulty
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Russell Keith-Magee < russ...@keith-magee.com> wrote: > > My apologies -- I haven't watched the video for a while, so I forgot > that detail. I'm not sure adopting that policy would help Django, > though; we have enough of a bottleneck with committers without > exa

Re: Trac issues review

2010-08-15 Thread burc...@gmail.com
Hi Russell, Thanks for clarifications of the process, but it seems I explained some things wrong. I see some issues have the following problems: 1) second core developer review takes a year, 2) reviewers like me who are not core developers don't know if they will be able to say something new a ti

Re: dev process [was: #11834: colorized debug page]

2010-08-15 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Tobias McNulty wrote: > On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Mark Bucciarelli >> wrote: >> >  - punish dev's who don't fix their bugs quickly after api lock >> > >> > (The presentation lacks speci

Re: dev process [was: #11834: colorized debug page]

2010-08-15 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Mark Bucciarelli wrote: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:31:11AM +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Mark Bucciarelli wrote: >> >> > ?- random api lock (people tend towards complacency) >> >> I'm not entirely certain I understand th

Re: dev process [was: #11834: colorized debug page]

2010-08-15 Thread Mark Bucciarelli
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:31:11AM +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Mark Bucciarelli wrote: > > > ?- random api lock (people tend towards complacency) > > I'm not entirely certain I understand this point -- or, at least, > how it would apply to Django. > So

Re: dev process [was: #11834: colorized debug page]

2010-08-15 Thread Tobias McNulty
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Russell Keith-Magee < russ...@keith-magee.com> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Mark Bucciarelli > wrote: > > - punish dev's who don't fix their bugs quickly after api lock > > > > (The presentation lacks specifics on the last point. ;) > > Which is a

Re: dev process [was: #11834: colorized debug page]

2010-08-15 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Mark Bucciarelli wrote: > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 03:03:27PM +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: >> >> If you have suggestions on how we can improve Django's development >> process and address these issues, we're happy to hear them. >> > > You may find this interest

dev process [was: #11834: colorized debug page]

2010-08-15 Thread Mark Bucciarelli
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 03:03:27PM +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > > If you have suggestions on how we can improve Django's development > process and address these issues, we're happy to hear them. > You may find this interesting: http://openbsd.org/papers/asiabsdcon2009-release_eng

Re: Trac issues review

2010-08-15 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 3:03 PM, burc...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Russell, > > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 1:39 PM, burc...@gmail.com wrote: >>> I had few useful thoughts about changing the way Django development >>> contributions gets ac

Re: proposal: abstract file upload/download handling

2010-08-15 Thread Waldemar Kornewald
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Waldemar Kornewald wrote: > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: >> I accept the need for this, but this seems like a bit of a wart. This >> method wouldn't be required at all if the Form took a request >> argument. This isn't an unusual r

Re: Trac issues review

2010-08-15 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:33 AM, burc...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Jeremy, > ... >> >> Sorry, I've missed some context here -- can someone point me to the >> beginning of this thread? > > Thread "#11834: colorized debug page. Assigned to buriy" ( > http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/bro

Re: Trac issues review

2010-08-15 Thread Dougal Matthews
On 15 August 2010 17:09, Jeremy Dunck wrote: > On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:03 AM, burc...@gmail.com > wrote: > > Hi Russell, > > > > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Russell Keith-Magee > > wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 1:39 PM, burc...@gmail.com > wrote: > >>> I had few useful thoughts ab

Re: Trac issues review

2010-08-15 Thread burc...@gmail.com
Hi Jeremy, On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: > On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:03 AM, burc...@gmail.com wrote: >> Hi Russell, >> >> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Russell Keith-Magee >> wrote: >>> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 1:39 PM, burc...@gmail.com >>> wrote: I had few use

Re: Trac issues review

2010-08-15 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:03 AM, burc...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Russell, > > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 1:39 PM, burc...@gmail.com wrote: >>> I had few useful thoughts about changing the way Django development >>> contributions gets ac

Trac issues review

2010-08-15 Thread burc...@gmail.com
Hi Russell, On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 1:39 PM, burc...@gmail.com wrote: >> I had few useful thoughts about changing the way Django development >> contributions gets accepted and committed -- but all I get from this >> mailing list that

Re: #11834: colorized debug page. Assigned to buriy

2010-08-15 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Sunday, August 15, 2010, burc...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Russell, > >> However, it does need to have it's UX issues sorted out. The most >> recent substantive comment on the ticket [1] indicates that the patch >> isn't ready for checkin. It also suggests that there are broader >> improvements tha