Re: What do people think about the get_absolute_url proposal?

2009-12-07 Thread Rick Yazwinski
BTW, generally I like this idea... :) On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Rick Yazwinski wrote: > I think that this may be too simplified: >        protocol = getattr(settings, "PROTOCOL", "http") >        domain = Site.objects.get_current().domain >        port = getattr(settings, "PORT", "") > > M

Re: What do people think about the get_absolute_url proposal?

2009-12-07 Thread Rick Yazwinski
I think that this may be too simplified: protocol = getattr(settings, "PROTOCOL", "http") domain = Site.objects.get_current().domain port = getattr(settings, "PORT", "") Many sites put load balancers and https hardward acceleration in front of their web interfaces. This wo

Re: Sprint issue tracking / triaging

2009-12-07 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Tobias McNulty wrote: > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: >> I was thinking more of having one person at the sprint to take the >> role of integrator - that is, the patches still go up on trac, but one >> trusted person at the sprint tak

Re: Sprint issue tracking / triaging

2009-12-07 Thread Tobias McNulty
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > I was thinking more of having one person at the sprint to take the > role of integrator - that is, the patches still go up on trac, but one > trusted person at the sprint takes the role of lieutenant for the > sprint, and selects patches

Re: Feedback on ticket 7777

2009-12-07 Thread thebitguru
OK, here is what I have gathered about the databases listed under DATABASE_ENGINE [4]. Postgresql 8: Supports all three, +/-Inf and NaN [0] MySQL: No support for either NaN or Inf [1] sqlite3: No support for either NaN or Inf [2] Oracle: Supports all three [3] So, we have a 50/50 split. What do

Re: Sprint issue tracking / triaging

2009-12-07 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: > > On Dec 7, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: > >> Looking at new ideas to try - if someone trusted at the sprint (such >> as yourself) were to take the role of developing a merge-ready git >> branch, we (the committers) could use

Re: Sprint issue tracking / triaging

2009-12-07 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On Dec 7, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > Looking at new ideas to try - if someone trusted at the sprint (such > as yourself) were to take the role of developing a merge-ready git > branch, we (the committers) could use that branch to feed into trunk. > This hasn't been done

Re: #7539 (ON DELETE support) aka ORM-09 - A call for feedback

2009-12-07 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Johannes Dollinger wrote: > Ping. > > Since it's a non-trivial patch and there has been (almost) no > feedback, is it save to assume that #7539 is not in scope for 1.2 ? At this point, I'd have to say yes. We've still got a lot of items on the high priority list, #

Re: Sprint issue tracking / triaging

2009-12-07 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: > Hey all, >  I was wondering if I could do anything to streamline applying > sprint-created patches. > >  Obviously, I can do triaging and provide feedback on patches.   Can > I be blessed to say "Ready for checkin"? > >  What else can I do?  I

Re: #7539 (ON DELETE support) aka ORM-09 - A call for feedback

2009-12-07 Thread Johannes Dollinger
Ping. Since it's a non-trivial patch and there has been (almost) no feedback, is it save to assume that #7539 is not in scope for 1.2 ? Am 07.11.2009 um 01:31 schrieb Johannes Dollinger: > > There's a new patch on the ticket[1], based on Michael Glassford's > work, that solves a few remaining

Re: Django 1.2 progress assessment

2009-12-07 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > Hi folks -- > > According to our timeline, we're at (a bit past, actually) the point > where we need to take a quick look at progress towards 1.2 and decide > whether the current timeline still makes sense. > > Right now, we've completed 4

What do people think about the get_absolute_url proposal?

2009-12-07 Thread Simon Willison
This made it to the 1.2 feature list: http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/ReplacingGetAbsoluteUrl If we want this in 1.2, it could be as simple as merging the get_url / get_url_path methods in to the base Model class, rolling a few unit tests and writing some documentation. It feels like we should

Re: Conventions around plugable backends

2009-12-07 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Adrian Holovaty wrote: >> Unless Jacob feels strongly otherwise, let's go with class-based. > > Nope, I don't feel strongly at all. I think I agree that I've a slight > preference for the explicitness of n

Re: Django 1.2 progress assessment

2009-12-07 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: > Perhaps I missed the gripping conclusion, but wasn't there some > outstanding work to be done on multi-db's interaction with admin? The conclusion was that we could (and should, eventually) make it easier (perhaps a `using` option on ModelAdmi

Re: Django 1.2 progress assessment

2009-12-07 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Alex Gaynor wrote: > >> I'm very confident that multi-db will be ready for merge by then, >> Justin and I (ok mostly Justin) have been working on the GIS stuff, >> which is the last blocker. > > Perhaps I m

Re: Django 1.2 progress assessment

2009-12-07 Thread Jeremy Dunck
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Alex Gaynor wrote: > I'm very confident that multi-db will be ready for merge by then, > Justin and I (ok mostly Justin) have been working on the GIS stuff, > which is the last blocker. Perhaps I missed the gripping conclusion, but wasn't there some outstandin

Re: Django 1.2 progress assessment

2009-12-07 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > Hi folks -- > > According to our timeline, we're at (a bit past, actually) the point > where we need to take a quick look at progress towards 1.2 and decide > whether the current timeline still makes sense. > > Right now, we've completed 4

Re: Sprint issue tracking / triaging

2009-12-07 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: >  Obviously, I can do triaging and provide feedback on patches.   Can > I be blessed to say "Ready for checkin"? Please - that'd really help me. Jacob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django deve

Django 1.2 progress assessment

2009-12-07 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
Hi folks -- According to our timeline, we're at (a bit past, actually) the point where we need to take a quick look at progress towards 1.2 and decide whether the current timeline still makes sense. Right now, we've completed 4.5 features on the 1.2 priority list: * Comment admin actions (Co

Re: Sprint issue tracking / triaging

2009-12-07 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: > Hey all, >  I was wondering if I could do anything to streamline applying > sprint-created patches. > >  Obviously, I can do triaging and provide feedback on patches.   Can > I be blessed to say "Ready for checkin"? > >  What else can I do?  I

Sprint issue tracking / triaging

2009-12-07 Thread Jeremy Dunck
Hey all, I was wondering if I could do anything to streamline applying sprint-created patches. Obviously, I can do triaging and provide feedback on patches. Can I be blessed to say "Ready for checkin"? What else can I do? I think getting patches which are actually ready to be committed q

Re: Conventions around plugable backends

2009-12-07 Thread James Bennett
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Adrian Holovaty wrote: > My preference is (slightly) for class-based, because it's (slightly) > less magic. I think we should try to avoid requiring people to > remember what to name things. I like this as well, albeit for a slightly different reason: asking you t

Re: Conventions around plugable backends

2009-12-07 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Adrian Holovaty wrote: > Unless Jacob feels strongly otherwise, let's go with class-based. Nope, I don't feel strongly at all. I think I agree that I've a slight preference for the explicitness of naming the class "out loud," so let's do that. Jacob -- You rece

Re: Conventions around plugable backends

2009-12-07 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 6:17 AM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > So, I'd like to call for a quick BDFL judgement. Everyone else should > feel free to weigh in with opinions if they have opinions, > preferences, or especially compelling arguments either way. My preference is (slightly) for class-based

Re: Conventions around plugable backends

2009-12-07 Thread Ivan Sagalaev
On topic, I'm +0 on class-based approach. There's actually one passage that reminded me of something that I consider a small wart in a couple of places in Django: Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > Module-based configuration: > --- > > * The aesthetic of user-configuration op

Re: Conventions around plugable backends

2009-12-07 Thread Tobias McNulty
Just wanted to add that the decision need not go either way; one possible solution would be to leave it up to the implementation and live with both conventions in the core. Sent from a mobile phone, please excuse any typos. On Dec 7, 2009 7:17 AM, "Russell Keith-Magee" wrote: Hi all (and especi

Re: Conventions around plugable backends

2009-12-07 Thread Karen Tracey
I slightly prefer class-based configuration. Karen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post to this group, send email to django-develop...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-developers+un

Re: Session/cookie based messages (#4604)

2009-12-07 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Tobias McNulty wrote: > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Russell Keith-Magee > wrote: >> However, I'm also willing to admit that personal preference is a >> factor here. We may just need to push this up for a BDFL judgement. I >> would certainly prefer module level

Conventions around plugable backends

2009-12-07 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
Hi all (and especially Jacob), So - this is a call for any interested parties to express their opinions, followed (hopefully quickly) by a BDFL judgement. For those that haven't been following the the django-dev discussion around ticket #4604: session-based messages are nearing trunk ready status