Re: Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule

2009-10-09 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Vinay Sajip wrote: > > On Oct 8, 6:44 pm, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: >> We're still gathering feature requests for 1.2 >> (seehttp://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/Version1.2Features), but we're >> going to work voting differently. Instead of categorizing features >>

Re: Proposal for 1.2: built-in logging with django.core.log

2009-10-09 Thread Simon Willison
On Oct 9, 4:54 pm, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > One big question I have is about performance: have you done any a/b > testing against trunk to see how much adding logging -- especially > upon every SQL query -- impacts performance? > > For me, at least, performance is going to be the critical facto

Re: Proposal: Tutorial Refresh

2009-10-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Saturday 10 Oct 2009 11:37:06 am Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Rob Hudson wrote: > > I, too, like the idea of a conference site. It fills a void and > > sounds useful for upcoming conferences. I wasn't too crazy about the > > blog idea, and was convinced away

Re: Proposal: Tutorial Refresh

2009-10-09 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Rob Hudson wrote: > > I, too, like the idea of a conference site.  It fills a void and > sounds useful for upcoming conferences.  I wasn't too crazy about the > blog idea, and was convinced away from the snippets idea.  So shall we > call it a conference site and

Re: Proposal: Tutorial Refresh

2009-10-09 Thread Rob Hudson
I, too, like the idea of a conference site. It fills a void and sounds useful for upcoming conferences. I wasn't too crazy about the blog idea, and was convinced away from the snippets idea. So shall we call it a conference site and move on? :) For a nice reference implementation, I'd like to

Re: Proposal: Tutorial Refresh

2009-10-09 Thread Bryan Veloso
Also +1 to the idea of a conference site. I'm +0 on the prospect of adding features like the ones on the Carsonified site for brevity's sake. Definitely +1 to the prospect of seeing examples of unit testing and caching. On a tangent, if there's any design work needed for said site, I'll be happy t

ANN: Critical security updates to Django 1.0 and Django 1.1

2009-10-09 Thread James Bennett
Today the Django project is issuing a set of releases to remedy a security issue. This issue was disclosed publicly by a third party on a high-traffic mailing list, and attempts have been made to exploit it against live Django installations; as such, we are bypassing our normal policy for security

Re: Proposal: Tutorial Refresh

2009-10-09 Thread Sean Brant
+1 Simon's idea of a conference site. Adding some features like http://hello.carsonified.com/ would be cool to have, though it might be to advance for this kind of tutorial. Sean --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goo

Re: Proposal: Tutorial Refresh

2009-10-09 Thread Simon Willison
Put me down as a other +1 for a full site tutorial, especially one that covers pip, virtualenv, unit testing and the like. I have a suggestion for a site, too: How about the conference website for the next DjangoCon? It's meant to be a community run conference so the job needs to be done at some

Re: Proposal: Tutorial Refresh

2009-10-09 Thread Eric Florenzano
I've done this before: http://thisweekindjango.com/screencasts/ ( http://github.com/ericflo/startthedark ) I can attest, from the amount of feedback that I've received about that series of screencasts, that building an entire website from the ground up is extremely valuable to beginners. It's al

Re: Proposal: Tutorial Refresh

2009-10-09 Thread Jani Tiainen
Russell Keith-Magee kirjoitti: > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Rob Hudson wrote: >>> * How do people feel about a tutorial that covers a complete site? >> Well, in grand Django tradition, by suggesting this, you've >> volunteered to

Re: Patch: adding a msg parameter to assertContains and similar methods in the test client

2009-10-09 Thread Christian Oudard
First off, thank you all for responding and discussing this issue. Responding to Russell's comments on the quality of the patch, I agree that it needs better test coverage. I've uploaded an updated patch which covers all exit points of assertFormError. The better tests confirm that the original p

Re: Django 1.2 roadmap and schedule

2009-10-09 Thread Vinay Sajip
On Oct 8, 6:44 pm, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > We're still gathering feature requests for 1.2 > (seehttp://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/Version1.2Features), but we're > going to work voting differently. Instead of categorizing features > into "must-have / should-have / pony" categories, we're goin

Re: Proposal for 1.2: built-in logging with django.core.log

2009-10-09 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Simon Willison wrote: > For anyone interested in following this, I've just started a > (currently experimental) branch on GitHub: > > http://github.com/simonw/django/tree/logging One big question I have is about performance: have you done any a/b testing against t

Re: Proposal: Tutorial Refresh

2009-10-09 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Rob Hudson wrote: >> * How do people feel about a tutorial that covers a complete site? > > Well, in grand Django tradition, by suggesting this, you've > volunteered to be in charge :) > > But sign me u

Re: Proposal for 1.2: built-in logging with django.core.log

2009-10-09 Thread Alex Gaynor
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Luke Plant wrote: > > On Friday 09 October 2009 10:33:28 Simon Willison wrote: >> For anyone interested in following this, I've just started a >> (currently experimental) branch on GitHub: >> >> http://github.com/simonw/django/tree/logging > > Is there some easy wa

Re: Proposal: Tutorial Refresh

2009-10-09 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
Hi Rob -- First, thanks for taking this on. The tutorial indeed needs some good lovin'; glad to see someone stepping up to the plate. I don't have a huge amount of bandwidth these days, but I can commit to writing a bit, and to editing anything you or anyone else writes. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9

Proposal: Tutorial Refresh

2009-10-09 Thread Rob Hudson
I'd like to propose the addition of a new tutorial that represents a complete website, describing everything from start to finish. This would allow for many more topics to come into play -- things we all deal with at some point in developing websites using Django. This would also allow for those

Re: Proposal for 1.2: built-in logging with django.core.log

2009-10-09 Thread Simon Willison
On Oct 9, 11:12 am, Luke Plant wrote: > >http://github.com/simonw/django/tree/logging > > Is there some easy way to see the patch?  Preferably a link which will > just show the diff between the latest of your branch and trunk, but > failing that, a recipe of commands using git (for those of us wh

Re: Proposal for 1.2: built-in logging with django.core.log

2009-10-09 Thread Luke Plant
On Friday 09 October 2009 10:33:28 Simon Willison wrote: > For anyone interested in following this, I've just started a > (currently experimental) branch on GitHub: > > http://github.com/simonw/django/tree/logging Is there some easy way to see the patch? Preferably a link which will just show

Re: Proposal for 1.2: built-in logging with django.core.log

2009-10-09 Thread Simon Willison
For anyone interested in following this, I've just started a (currently experimental) branch on GitHub: http://github.com/simonw/django/tree/logging So far I've added a 'django' logger which is silent by default, and hooked up a new CursorLoggingWrapper to log all SQL statements from the ORM to