Re: Admin and Related Models/Fields

2007-08-26 Thread Nick Lane
On Aug 26, 9:44 am, "Yuri Baburov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That being said if you could point me to the patch (if it exists) so > > that I can try to help get it going again in or just lend another pair > > of eyes that would be really useful. If not, and if the admin isn't in > > too much

Re: Tutorial and max_length (was Re: Time for a new release?)

2007-08-26 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 8/26/07, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And after we checked in an updated tutorial with admonitions > explaining the exact source of the error for those who run into it, we > *still* got someone opening a ticket telling us the tutorial needs to > use "maxlength" instead of "max_l

Re: Time for a new release?

2007-08-26 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 8/26/07, Simon Greenhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are two tickets outstanding for a similar issue - > > #528 (add a local PDF/HTML docs generator) > #4940 (have downloadable PDF versions of the docs). > > Please feel free to get stuck into implementing these :-) If we could > provide

Apache cookie based authentication

2007-08-26 Thread SmileyChris
I did some work on a new patch for http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/3583 in the weekend. What it does is refactor the existing apache auth method (which uses basic HTTP auth) and add a new method which uses the contrib.auth authentication. The patch is ready for checkin (in my opinion) but I

Offline HTML docs?

2007-08-26 Thread SmileyChris
I've had very positive reports from users of my Django Docs app (http://smileychris.tactful.co.nz/ramblings/django-documentation/). Do the core developers think this something that would be worth including as part of the core admin app? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You

Re: Tutorial and max_length (was Re: Time for a new release?)

2007-08-26 Thread SmileyChris
On Aug 26, 4:19 pm, "James Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about if we just go back to "maxlength" for even the SVN tutorial, > and hold off changing the tutorial until the latest available release > of Django includes support for it? Reverting trunk documentation due to stupidity is ju

Re: Time for a new release?

2007-08-26 Thread David Larlet
2007/8/26, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On 8/26/07, David Larlet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree that users do not try to read the local docs for the moment, > > but maybe it's because the ReST style discourage them to do so. Let's > > try to add html doc with the djangoproject's

Re: Admin and Related Models/Fields

2007-08-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In that case, I will start snooping around the admin contrib and see if I am up for improving the selection and ordering. I will probably wait until the new queryset code drops to do anything large so that I don't work on something that's already been fixed. On Aug 25, 8:44 pm, "Yuri Baburov" <[

Re: Time for a new release?

2007-08-26 Thread James Bennett
On 8/26/07, David Larlet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree that users do not try to read the local docs for the moment, > but maybe it's because the ReST style discourage them to do so. Let's > try to add html doc with the djangoproject's css and maybe more users > will use local docs. A lot of

Re: Time for a new release?

2007-08-26 Thread Nicolas Steinmetz
Matt McClanahan a écrit : > Between max_length and the earlier version of the same confusion > (__str__ to __unicode__), I wonder if it's time to make the default / > documentation/ refer to the latest release, rather than trunk. +1 For newcomers, I think it would be a wise decision. We are use

Re: Time for a new release?

2007-08-26 Thread Sandro Dentella
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 04:47:28AM -0500, James Bennett wrote: > > On 8/26/07, Sandro Dentella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While I completely agree on what you say, I'd point out that not only > > differences from 0.96 to trunk should be noted, if possible, but also > > between svn versions fo

Re: Time for a new release?

2007-08-26 Thread David Larlet
2007/8/26, Simon Greenhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Aug 26, 9:56 pm, "David Larlet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree that users do not try to read the local docs for the moment, > > but maybe it's because the ReST style discourage them to do so. Let's > > try to add html doc with the djan

Re: Time for a new release?

2007-08-26 Thread Simon Greenhill
On Aug 26, 9:56 pm, "David Larlet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree that users do not try to read the local docs for the moment, > but maybe it's because the ReST style discourage them to do so. Let's > try to add html doc with the djangoproject's css and maybe more users > will use local docs

Re: Time for a new release?

2007-08-26 Thread David Larlet
2007/8/26, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On 8/26/07, Nicola Larosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They shouldn't have to go the web site: the release docs should be on their > > disk, within the installed release itself (see my other message). > > See above. I'm sure you mean well, but th

Re: Time for a new release?

2007-08-26 Thread James Bennett
On 8/26/07, Sandro Dentella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While I completely agree on what you say, I'd point out that not only > differences from 0.96 to trunk should be noted, if possible, but also > between svn versions following latest release. As an example when > test.clinet.login changed I'v

Re: Time for a new release?

2007-08-26 Thread Sandro Dentella
> Our philosophy so far has been that documentation improvements are > something that *all* current Django users should benefit from, > including users of trunk *and* users of the latest release. If we find > typos, or we take the time to write up better explanations of things, > we want to have t

Re: Time for a new release?

2007-08-26 Thread Simon Greenhill
Evenin' all. Could we not just make the warning at the top of each docs page a little bit more obnoxious? Currently we have the following at the top of each docs page: """ These examples are from Django's SVN release, which can be significantly different than previous releases. Get old examples

Re: Time for a new release?

2007-08-26 Thread James Bennett
On 8/26/07, Nicola Larosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Only if you make it so, and you shouldn't. :-) So do you have a means of pushing out updated docs to everyone who's downloaded a tarball, every time we make a change that's not related to documenting a change in Django itself? > It does not

Re: Time for a new release?

2007-08-26 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 10:27 +0200, Nicola Larosa wrote: > Adrian Holovaty wrote: [...] > > But the problem isn't with the documentation improvements, of course -- > > those don't confuse people (we hope!). The problem is with the parts of > > the documentation that are specific to the Django devel

Re: Time for a new release?

2007-08-26 Thread Nicola Larosa
> Nicola Larosa wrote: >> include the documentation in the frigging release, and make it usable! Malcolm Tredinnick wrote: > You've completely misunderstood the question. I don't think so, but thanks for your gentle remark. ;-P Rather, I skipped saying why I think it's not a worthy goal; I now

Re: Time for a new release?

2007-08-26 Thread Nicola Larosa
Adrian Holovaty wrote: > There are two types of documentation changes: general improvements (bug > fixes, typo corrections, better explanations) and documentation of > new/changed features in trunk. The tension between those changes is the > issue here. Only if you make it so, and you shouldn't.

Re: Time for a new release?

2007-08-26 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 09:35 +0200, Nicola Larosa wrote: > Adrian Holovaty wrote: > > Is there any other, better way to do it than how it's currently being > > done? It's an imperfect system, but it's "more perfect" than the other > > choice that comes to mind. > > Yes, there is a better way to ge

Re: Time for a new release?

2007-08-26 Thread Nicola Larosa
Adrian Holovaty wrote: > Is there any other, better way to do it than how it's currently being > done? It's an imperfect system, but it's "more perfect" than the other > choice that comes to mind. Yes, there is a better way to get the right documentation in the hands of those who use a release: