web typography support

2007-08-05 Thread Alex Nikolaenkov
ME: >> * What do you think about including Web Typography support as a >>built-in django feature? Jacob: > I think it's a great idea. We currently don't have a process by which > apps are added to contrib, and that's the only thing holding us back. > I'm working on proposing such a process,

Re: Case-insensitive URLS (was: usability issues)

2007-08-05 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 09:49:49 06.08.2007 UTC+04 when Alex Nikolaenkov did gyre and gimble: AN> BTW, Can we attach configurable plug-ins to the built-in webserver? (* I'm AN> interested in possibility. Can code "case insensitive urls plug-in" by AN> myself. *) I already pointed out that Django m

Re: Case-insensitive URLS (was: usability issues)

2007-08-05 Thread Alex Nikolaenkov
GUYS, ME BAD. Neither dicking, nor trolling. Answers to Jacob's letter below. Thank you for your responses. > On 8/5/07, Alex Nikolaenkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>** I've posted corresponding ticket. >>http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/5090 >>Now it is closed as "won't fix". At

Re: A solution for slow database resets in the test system?

2007-08-05 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 8/6/07, Andy Gayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > def test_inactive_not_allowed(self): > self._createUser('testuser') > self._createUser('inactive', is_active=False) > > > This allows you to focus on the data that's relevant to the individual > test. If a

Re: A solution for slow database resets in the test system?

2007-08-05 Thread Andy Gayton
Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > On 8/5/07, Andy Gayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Adrian Holovaty wrote: >> I'm worried about the emphasis in Django tests to share enormous fixture >> datasets. Some rules of thumbs I've drifted towards after ending up >> with unruly test suites a couple of times

Re: Re[2]: usability issues

2007-08-05 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On 8/5/07, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm almost certain it has to do with a combination of the regular > expression patterns for the URLs (minor contribution) and the database > collation in use (major contribution). Which, again, means that it's > not something Django is necessar

Case-insensitive URLS (was: usability issues)

2007-08-05 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On 8/5/07, Alex Nikolaenkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >** I've posted corresponding ticket. >http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/5090 >Now it is closed as "won't fix". At least the resolution should be >changed to "By Design" if you guys don't like sites built on django >bein

Re: Re[2]: usability issues

2007-08-05 Thread James Bennett
On 8/5/07, Brett Hoerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not on our live site. And I just made a fresh django-trunk project to > test it, didn't work there either. Although aren't resolvers just > normal Python REs, so you could possibly have set this for yourself > somehow? I'm almost certain it

Re: Re[2]: usability issues

2007-08-05 Thread Brett Hoerner
On 8/5/07, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Django handles both just fine, returns the same page for both. Not on our live site. And I just made a fresh django-trunk project to test it, didn't work there either. Although aren't resolvers just normal Python REs, so you could possibly h

Re: usability issues

2007-08-05 Thread David Danier
> And again, I'll reiterate that the type of user who doesn't understand > case-sensitivity is the type of user who -- verified by repeated > real-world usability testing -- finds MySpace by going to Google and > typing "myspace.com" into the search box. An astonishingly high > percentage of web

Re: Re[2]: usability issues

2007-08-05 Thread James Bennett
Finger slipped on the "send" shortcut, continuing where I left off... On 8/5/07, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And again, I'll reiterate that the type of user who doesn't understand > case-sensitivity is the type of user who -- verified by repeated > real-world usability testing -- f

Re: Re[2]: usability issues

2007-08-05 Thread James Bennett
On 8/5/07, Alex Nikolaenkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Imagine that your site hosting photos has got the following urls > belonging to different users: > http://mysite.com/John/ > http://mysite.com/john. Except those aren't different URLs. And now that I'm slightly more awake I'm wondering why

Re: usability issues

2007-08-05 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 17:31:05 05.08.2007 UTC+04 when Alex Nikolaenkov did gyre and gimble: AN> Some of them do not and some do. Now a lot of people work with computer but AN> only a few are programmers and understand THE BIG DIFFERENCE. The AN> comprehensive urls are very good. You can remember t

Re[2]: usability issues

2007-08-05 Thread Alex Nikolaenkov
You wrote 5 ??? 2007 ?., 17:15:11: > On 8/5/07, Alex Nikolaenkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>The urls are pretty same. But the second one causes 404 Response. >>While typing the second url the user tries to access typing its >>address and types "Simpsons" instead of "simpsons". I

Re: usability issues

2007-08-05 Thread James Bennett
On 8/5/07, Alex Nikolaenkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The urls are pretty same. But the second one causes 404 Response. >While typing the second url the user tries to access typing its >address and types "Simpsons" instead of "simpsons". In terms of >nix-like systems this is a ma

usability issues

2007-08-05 Thread Alex Nikolaenkov
Hello guys, Django is positioned as a tool for perfectionists. So there is a few questions which are very valuable for guys making the best web-sites: * Case-sensitive urls. Take a look: http://www.coastalbeat.com/news/2007/jul/30/simpsons/ http://www.coastalbeat.com/news/2007/jul/30/

GSoC 2007 Status Update VI: Django REST interface

2007-08-05 Thread Andreas Stuhlmüller
This is the sixth status update for my Summer of Code project. You can find more information as well as an updated timetable at [1]. During the last two weeks, I mainly worked on unit tests and on simplifying the relationship between the REST interface and URLs. I added manage.py, settings.py and