Re: what do you guys think of Storm by Canonical?

2007-07-10 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 7/11/07, bedros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > they just released under open source (LGPLv2). > > https://storm.canonical.com/ Cross posting like this is really bad form. Plus, unless you have a specific proposal for how Storm should be used in Django, Django-developers isn't really the right

Re: what do you guys think of Storm by Canonical?

2007-07-10 Thread Michael Trier
On 7/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jul 11, 12:42 am, bedros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > they just released under open source (LGPLv2). > > > > https://storm.canonical.com/ > > > > Tutorial is here > > > > https://storm.canonical.com/Tutorial > Yawn. --~--~--

Re: what do you guys think of Storm by Canonical?

2007-07-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jul 11, 12:42 am, bedros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > they just released under open source (LGPLv2). > > https://storm.canonical.com/ > > Tutorial is here > > https://storm.canonical.com/Tutorial See this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/185f62e8e2

Re: Ned Batchelder's hyphenate

2007-07-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jul 10, 11:12 pm, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't decide that this hinges on "fully internationalize humanize or it > shouldn't go there". Incremental changes are good. agreed. > > > There are four reasons why I feel it is better to have this as part of > > the core: >

what do you guys think of Storm by Canonical?

2007-07-10 Thread bedros
they just released under open source (LGPLv2). https://storm.canonical.com/ Tutorial is here https://storm.canonical.com/Tutorial --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post

Re: Ticket 3505, Authentication backend

2007-07-10 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 7/11/07, mario__ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Please take a look at this url http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/3505 > I wrote a little patch for the ticket subject. Comments or kicks will > be appreciated :-) Can you help out a little bit here by providing a test case (not necessarily

Re: mod_python: Why use req.uri, not req.path_info?

2007-07-10 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 23:45 +, Graham Dumpleton wrote: [...] > Django has problems in related areas with CGI and WSGI type hosting > solutions as well. For example, mod_wsgi, FastCGI, SCGI, and CGI. This > is because Django ignores SCRIPT_NAME variable which defines the mount > point of the ap

Re: urlconf, strings vs. callables

2007-07-10 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 09:20 +0200, Gábor Farkas wrote: > hi, > > when specifying view-functions in the urlconfs, you can either specify > them by their name as a string, or by referencing them "pythonically" > (importing them, and giving the urlconf the callable). > > which is the "preferred"

Re: urlconf, strings vs. callables

2007-07-10 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 08:39 -0400, Sean Patrick Hogan wrote: > The "pythonic" way is a new addition to Django if I'm not mistaken. > > I personally prefer calling by string because (I'm assuming here) it > doesn't load the function unless it needs to. Bad assumption. The first time you access t

Re: Ned Batchelder's hyphenate

2007-07-10 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 18:26 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Jul 9, 10:48 pm, "Jacob Kaplan-Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Maybe an addition to django.contrib.humanize? > > If we decide to only support English, then I am fine with including > this as part of django.contrib.humanize

Ticket 3505, Authentication backend

2007-07-10 Thread mario__
Please take a look at this url http://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/3505 I wrote a little patch for the ticket subject. Comments or kicks will be appreciated :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "D

Re: urlconf, strings vs. callables

2007-07-10 Thread Chris Heisel
I'd also be interested in the memory usage of strings vs. importing the functions directly. At work, we tend to use the string method when it's an undecorated view function, and the pythonic way when we're going to decorate them: usually caching, but sometimes login_required, etc. The mixing and

Re: mod_python: Why use req.uri, not req.path_info?

2007-07-10 Thread Graham Dumpleton
On Jul 11, 6:25 am, "Marty Alchin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/10/07, Forest Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > All of this could be fixed by simply changing ModPythonRequest > > (django/core/handlers/modpython.py) to use req.path_info instead of > > req.uri. Is > > there any reason not

Re: urlconf, strings vs. callables

2007-07-10 Thread Sean Patrick Hogan
That's a good question and one I don't know the answer to. But here's one thing to keep in mind. Let's say that introspectively looking up a function is 4x more costly. If I have 8 entries in my URLConf going to different functions, calling by string is 2x faster. Plus, there's the issue of mem

Re: urlconf, strings vs. callables

2007-07-10 Thread Collin Grady
On Jul 10, 6:20 am, Carl Karsten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > apply decorators? do tell... > > (sorry to turn this into a d-user post...) > > Ideally I would like to apply it to this whole tree: > > (r'^eventcal/', include('eventcal.urls')), You can apply it to specific views, not to an in

Re: New Python ORM

2007-07-10 Thread Sean Patrick Hogan
It's also just very verbose. 1 >>> class Person(object): 2 ... __storm_table__ = "person" 3 ... id = Int(primary=True) 4 ... name = Unicode() So, I have to declare a __storm_table__ and id for every model. That should be assumed by default and allowed to be overwritten (i

Re: urlconf, strings vs. callables

2007-07-10 Thread Kevin Menard
On 7/10/07, Sean Patrick Hogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The "pythonic" way is a new addition to Django if I'm not mistaken. > > I personally prefer calling by string because (I'm assuming here) it doesn't > load the function unless it needs to. So, if I have a URLConf that > references 8 view

Re: mod_python: Why use req.uri, not req.path_info?

2007-07-10 Thread Kevin Menard
I feel your pain here. I never quite understood why the app, project, whatever, had to care where it was being deployed. Or rather, why one has to go out of his way to make URLs work in different contexts. Coming from the Java world, this was something I had never run into, and I was pretty put

Re: mod_python: Why use req.uri, not req.path_info?

2007-07-10 Thread Forest Bond
On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 09:40:49PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Jul 10, 5:02 pm, Forest Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is this kind of change relevant for all of the other methods? I have not > > used > > any of the others. Certainly, if a change like this is made, the other > > ha

Re: mod_python: Why use req.uri, not req.path_info?

2007-07-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jul 10, 5:02 pm, Forest Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 04:25:17PM -0400, Marty Alchin wrote: > > > On 7/10/07, Forest Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > All of this could be fixed by simply changing ModPythonRequest > > > (django/core/handlers/modpython.py) to us

Re: New Python ORM

2007-07-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jul 10, 4:43 pm, David Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not sure if you guys have seen this, but maybe Django can take a bit > from what it does well. > > https://storm.canonical.com/Tutorial The problem is no one knows what it 'does well' yet :-) It is missing many of the features Django

Re: mod_python: Why use req.uri, not req.path_info?

2007-07-10 Thread Forest Bond
On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 04:25:17PM -0400, Marty Alchin wrote: > > On 7/10/07, Forest Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All of this could be fixed by simply changing ModPythonRequest > > (django/core/handlers/modpython.py) to use req.path_info instead of req.uri. > > Is there any reason not to do

New Python ORM

2007-07-10 Thread David Cramer
Not sure if you guys have seen this, but maybe Django can take a bit from what it does well. https://storm.canonical.com/Tutorial --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To post t

Re: mod_python: Why use req.uri, not req.path_info?

2007-07-10 Thread Marty Alchin
On 7/10/07, Forest Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All of this could be fixed by simply changing ModPythonRequest > (django/core/handlers/modpython.py) to use req.path_info instead of req.uri. > Is > there any reason not to do that (aside from breaking backwards compatibility)? I'm certainly

Re: mod_python: Why use req.uri, not req.path_info?

2007-07-10 Thread Forest Bond
On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 04:13:44PM -0400, Max Battcher wrote: > > On 7/10/07, Forest Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, the problem is that I have to update my urls.py to include the /mysite/ > > prefix in all URLs. > > > > ... > > > > If this can be solved using some crazy middleware-type so

Re: mod_python: Why use req.uri, not req.path_info?

2007-07-10 Thread Max Battcher
On 7/10/07, Forest Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, the problem is that I have to update my urls.py to include the /mysite/ > prefix in all URLs. > > ... > > If this can be solved using some crazy middleware-type solution, I'd be open > to > that. It doesn't seem ideal to me for the current

Re: sensitive data on error page?

2007-07-10 Thread Marty Alchin
On 7/10/07, Adrian Holovaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's already a "copy-and-paste" version of the error traceback, so > I'd recommend using that as the contents of the pastebin paste. It's > just the traceback, as plain text, without any local variable values. >From what I can tell, this

Re: sensitive data on error page?

2007-07-10 Thread Adrian Holovaty
On 7/10/07, Carl Karsten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am considering adding a 'paste to http://dpaste.com"; button to the error > page > template, but not if the security nutz are going to say it makes it too easy > for > people to expose stuff that shouldn't be exposed. > > So, if such a butt

Re: sensitive data on error page?

2007-07-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jul 10, 2:05 pm, Carl Karsten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am considering adding a 'paste tohttp://dpaste.com"; button to the error page > template, but not if the security nutz are going to say it makes it too easy > for > people to expose stuff that shouldn't be exposed. > > So, if such

Re: #4418 - Newforms Media, ready for commit?

2007-07-10 Thread Gary Wilson
Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > Any feedback (especially objections to committing) would be > appreciated. First, great work! I think all the kiddies will like it. Won't be long before Django has a Scriptaculous widget set, I bet :) Are we fine with having two ways to add media? The two methods

Re: Ned Batchelder's hyphenate

2007-07-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jul 9, 10:48 pm, "Jacob Kaplan-Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe an addition to django.contrib.humanize? If we decide to only support English, then I am fine with including this as part of django.contrib.humanize. If we decide to properly internationalize humanize, then I am fine with

sensitive data on error page?

2007-07-10 Thread Carl Karsten
I am considering adding a 'paste to http://dpaste.com"; button to the error page template, but not if the security nutz are going to say it makes it too easy for people to expose stuff that shouldn't be exposed. So, if such a button were created, what would you nutz-os say? Carl K pw, hat's

mod_python: Why use req.uri, not req.path_info?

2007-07-10 Thread Forest Bond
Hi, I was trying to set up a site at a URL that is not at the root of the web server. I am using mod_python, and my apache config looks similar to that included with the relevant django documentation, which I'll duplicate here: [from http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/modpython/] --

Ping: #3285 - Signed Cookies

2007-07-10 Thread Marty Alchin
It's been a while since I had mentioned much about my signed cookies app, and I just wanted to check and see if there might be any updates to the ticket soon. I've set up a Google Code project[1] for it, and the app itself is quite robust, thanks to the excellent feedback I've gotten. I guess now

Re: urlconf, strings vs. callables

2007-07-10 Thread Sean Patrick Hogan
Yeah, I've used the caching decorators in my URLConf for generic views that way. I think it's good to support both ways and I don't think either is going away, but someone more familiar with development should probably comment on that. Sean. On 7/10/07, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: urlconf, strings vs. callables

2007-07-10 Thread Carl Karsten
James Bennett wrote: > On 7/10/07, Sean Patrick Hogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The "pythonic" way is a new addition to Django if I'm not mistaken. > > Yes, it was added between the 0.95 and 0.96 releases. > >> I personally prefer calling by string because (I'm assuming here) it doesn't >> l

Re: urlconf, strings vs. callables

2007-07-10 Thread James Bennett
On 7/10/07, Sean Patrick Hogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The "pythonic" way is a new addition to Django if I'm not mistaken. Yes, it was added between the 0.95 and 0.96 releases. > I personally prefer calling by string because (I'm assuming here) it doesn't > load the function unless it needs

Re: urlconf, strings vs. callables

2007-07-10 Thread Sean Patrick Hogan
The "pythonic" way is a new addition to Django if I'm not mistaken. I personally prefer calling by string because (I'm assuming here) it doesn't load the function unless it needs to. So, if I have a URLConf that references 8 view functions, it only imports the one for the correct URL if I call by

Re: Ned Batchelder's hyphenate

2007-07-10 Thread Ned Batchelder
Since the algorithm is identical to the one used by TeX, the hyphenation data can be taken from there as well. I used a TeX distribution to get the latest patterns for English to include in the module. I installed MiKTeX, and dug around in the tex/generic/hyphen directory to find them. There

Re: Ned Batchelder's hyphenate

2007-07-10 Thread Ned Batchelder
Todd, good to meet a fellow nerd: I also have the five-volume hardcover set. My code is implemented from appendix H of volume 1 (or is it volume A?). --Ned. Todd O'Bryan wrote: > On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 02:54 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> On further reflection, there is a huge internati

urlconf, strings vs. callables

2007-07-10 Thread Gábor Farkas
hi, when specifying view-functions in the urlconfs, you can either specify them by their name as a string, or by referencing them "pythonically" (importing them, and giving the urlconf the callable). which is the "preferred" way? i'm always using the "pythonic" way (import the view function,