Re: django-values -> django-policy?

2007-05-28 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 01:42 -0400, Max Battcher wrote: > On 5/28/07, Marty Alchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe a combination of the two would be a bit better. "policyvalues"? > > Indicating its usefulness in the scope of policies while still being > > clear that its features only extend to

Re: MEDIA_URL template tag/context processor/etc again

2007-05-28 Thread Collin Grady
+1 on #1278 :) I think RequestContext is the better way of doing it - I think MEDIA_URL is every bit as common to use as the user info provided by the auth context processor, and that wasn't done with a tag either :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this messag

Re: django-values -> django-policy?

2007-05-28 Thread Max Battcher
On 5/28/07, Marty Alchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe a combination of the two would be a bit better. "policyvalues"? > Indicating its usefulness in the scope of policies while still being > clear that its features only extend to the values. When I think of Policies I think more of Constrai

Re: MEDIA_URL template tag/context processor/etc again

2007-05-28 Thread Ville Säävuori
> Given the frequency of this request, I'm OK with adding a context > processor in django/core/context_processors.py that sets a "MEDIA_URL" > variable in the context. I'm also OK with having that be in the > default TEMPLATE_CONTEXT_PROCESSORS. What do other folks think? I'm very much +1 on this

Re: MEDIA_URL template tag/context processor/etc again

2007-05-28 Thread sime
> Unclear opinion > - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a definite +1 on this, whether it's {{ MEDIA_URL }} or {% MEDIA_URL %} I don't mind. Lets not forget though, it's a VERY common case to have more than just MEDIA_URL being needed from settings.py. Obviously not all of it though. I seem to recall Smiley

Re: newforms-admin "plugins"

2007-05-28 Thread Marty Alchin
On 5/28/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems that "extra" things on a model in whatever form they may take > are either instance-specific, in which case they are Field sub-classes > -- for database-backed data -- or methods, or they are model-specific > (e.g. django-values'

Re: MEDIA_URL template tag/context processor/etc again

2007-05-28 Thread SmileyChris
On May 29, 12:32 pm, "Russell Keith-Magee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/29/07, SmileyChris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It would be great to hear from some of the previous "voters" in this > > thread on their view of #4105 (as opposed to #1278) > > Here's a few: Thanks Russ, that's what I

Re: newforms-admin "plugins"

2007-05-28 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 11:48 +1000, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote: > On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 21:36 -0400, Marty Alchin wrote: > > On 5/28/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Aren't you asking the wrong question here? The real issue seems to be > > > "how is admin going to handle arbitr

Re: newforms-admin "plugins"

2007-05-28 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 21:36 -0400, Marty Alchin wrote: > On 5/28/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Aren't you asking the wrong question here? The real issue seems to be > > "how is admin going to handle arbitrary Field classes that it doesn't > > otherwise know about?" > > Wel

Re: django-values -> django-policy?

2007-05-28 Thread Marty Alchin
On 5/28/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My understanding of the module is that it doesn't enforce rules and > procedures and that is certainly what I think of policy as being,too. Your understanding is correct. It doesn't do any enforcement of any rules, but simply provides va

Re: newforms-admin "plugins"

2007-05-28 Thread Marty Alchin
On 5/28/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aren't you asking the wrong question here? The real issue seems to be > "how is admin going to handle arbitrary Field classes that it doesn't > otherwise know about?" Well, I'm not worried about Field classes. DurationField, for instance

Re: MEDIA_URL template tag/context processor/etc again

2007-05-28 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 08:15 +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > On 5/29/07, Marc Fargas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > My count at the end of the thread is: > > #1278: 4 votes > > #4105: 4 votes > > > > So I thow a coin to the air... oh, it felt off the window! > > That's not

Re: newforms-admin "plugins"

2007-05-28 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 15:55 -0400, Marty Alchin wrote: > In working with my recent contrib saga, I've been looking a bit into > newforms-admin, since it's going to be merged someday, and it looks > like it would give me some better options. However, one thing I was > hoping for doesn't seem to be

Re: django-values -> django-policy?

2007-05-28 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 15:44 -0400, Marty Alchin wrote: > Django-values has had a long and rocky road thus far, with its name > not being the least of its problems. I finally put it to the masses in > a recent blog post, and I got back the simplest word I'm amazed I > didn't think of: policy. Organ

Re: [Triagers/Core] About Stale Tickets

2007-05-28 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
Hi Marc, On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 18:37 +0200, Marc Fargas wrote: > Hi there, > Since we got the triagers system patches and bugfixes are moving much > faster than before but there are still somethings that get stuck, > specially on the "Design Decission Needed" state. One man's "stuck" is another

Re: MEDIA_URL template tag/context processor/etc again

2007-05-28 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 5/29/07, SmileyChris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It would be great to hear from some of the previous "voters" in this > thread on their view of #4105 (as opposed to #1278) Here's a few: - It's one context variable. Hardly bloat - we just need to avoid the temptation of trying to include se

Re: MEDIA_URL template tag/context processor/etc again

2007-05-28 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 5/29/07, Marc Fargas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My count at the end of the thread is: > #1278: 4 votes > #4105: 4 votes > > So I thow a coin to the air... oh, it felt off the window! That's not the count I'm reading from this thread: For #1278: - Adrian - Malcolm - James B

Re: newforms.clean_data vs. newforms.cleanED_data

2007-05-28 Thread Fernando Gutierrez H.
Look at: http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/BackwardsIncompatibleChanges -- Fernando Gutierrez H. sime escribió: > Perhaps even a single page, that lists all backwards-incompatible > changes, by their version of introduction to trunk? I've already used > newforms in production, so stuff like th

Re: newforms.clean_data vs. newforms.cleanED_data

2007-05-28 Thread sime
Perhaps even a single page, that lists all backwards-incompatible changes, by their version of introduction to trunk? I've already used newforms in production, so stuff like this is kinda important. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are s

GSoC 2007: Package management and public application repository

2007-05-28 Thread Jannis Leidel
Hi list, With the official start of Google Summer of Code 2007 today, I would like to introduce myself as one of the lucky whose idea was accepted [1]. My mentor is James Bennett [2]. In the following three months I'll work on the integration of package management functionality into Django core

Re: MEDIA_URL template tag/context processor/etc again

2007-05-28 Thread SmileyChris
It would be great to hear from some of the previous "voters" in this thread on their view of #4105 (as opposed to #1278) On May 29, 4:48 am, Marc Fargas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My count at the end of the thread is: > #1278: 4 votes > #4105: 4 votes > > So I thow a coin to the

newforms-admin "plugins"

2007-05-28 Thread Marty Alchin
In working with my recent contrib saga, I've been looking a bit into newforms-admin, since it's going to be merged someday, and it looks like it would give me some better options. However, one thing I was hoping for doesn't seem to be there. For my policy work, I'd like to be able to add in a sep

django-values -> django-policy?

2007-05-28 Thread Marty Alchin
Django-values has had a long and rocky road thus far, with its name not being the least of its problems. I finally put it to the masses in a recent blog post, and I got back the simplest word I'm amazed I didn't think of: policy. Organizations are very familiar with the idea of policies and proced

Re: Field.contribute_to_class and contrib fields

2007-05-28 Thread Marty Alchin
On 5/18/07, Robert Coup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about having a _first_set attribute on the proxy object that only > allows laziness for the first time the value is set (ie. when it is set > from the DB row)? Then any later set()s get live validation and coercion > to geos objects. I sub

Re: Proposal: Generic newforms media

2007-05-28 Thread Luke Plant
On Saturday 26 May 2007 21:55:04 Jared Kuolt wrote: > The javascript > portion seems fine, however I would see media as a class, not as a > method, ala a model's Meta class: > > class MyWidget(Widget): > ... > class Media: > js = ('/path/to/js',) > css = ('/path/to/css',)

Re: MEDIA_URL template tag/context processor/etc again

2007-05-28 Thread Marc Fargas
My count at the end of the thread is: #1278: 4 votes #4105: 4 votes So I thow a coin to the air... oh, it felt off the window! As the main issue with having media_url in templates what the context bloat we could go for the #4105 approach, but as recently Adrian told he's fine on

[Triagers/Core] About Stale Tickets

2007-05-28 Thread Marc Fargas
Hi there, Since we got the triagers system patches and bugfixes are moving much faster than before but there are still somethings that get stuck, specially on the "Design Decission Needed" state. In theory, if I got it right, triagers set this state when they think that the scope of a ticket shou

Re: Proposal: Generic newforms media

2007-05-28 Thread Ivan Sagalaev
Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > I mostly just want to make sure > that I fully understand Ivan's use cases, so we can make sure that > there isn't a better solution lurking around. My use case was that I just had STYLE_ROOT and JS_ROOT that both were completely independent on MEDIA_ROOT. I don't re

Re: Proposal: Generic newforms media

2007-05-28 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 22:02 +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > On 5/28/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 19:31 +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: [...] > > > > > > When you say JS and CSS are separate - how separate are they? What > > > relationship (i

Re: Proposal: Generic newforms media

2007-05-28 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 5/28/07, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 19:31 +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > > On 5/27/07, Ivan Sagalaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > > > > URL path. When rendered, it should take into account settings.MEDIA_UR

Re: Proposal: Generic newforms media

2007-05-28 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 19:31 +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > On 5/27/07, Ivan Sagalaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > > > URL path. When rendered, it should take into account settings.MEDIA_URL. > > > > As a matter of fact it's not a universal practice to have c

Re: Proposal: Generic newforms media

2007-05-28 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On 5/27/07, Ivan Sagalaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > > URL path. When rendered, it should take into account settings.MEDIA_URL. > > As a matter of fact it's not a universal practice to have css and js > filed under this root. A couple of my projects had them in sep