Re: [Development] v8 on iOS again

2012-04-15 Thread Krenar Qehaja
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Alan Alpert wrote: > QtQuick 1 is not. Perhaps the iOS port could start with the QPA enabled Qt > 4.8? Until Apple changes iOS terms, which I personally highly doubt it's going to happen any time soon, we will have to stay with QtQuick1 only, for iOS. So, no Scene

Re: [Development] v8 on iOS again

2012-04-15 Thread Alan Alpert
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 12:04:39 ext Thiago Macieira wrote: > On domingo, 15 de abril de 2012 08.32.54, Hai Phaikawl wrote: > > Again, how would the "v8 on iOS" problem be solved? Falling back to the > > good old Qt4 js intepreter?? > > QtQuick not being able on iPhone or iPad is a big loss. > > There

Re: [Development] v8 on iOS again

2012-04-14 Thread Thiago Macieira
On domingo, 15 de abril de 2012 08.32.54, Hai Phaikawl wrote: > Again, how would the "v8 on iOS" problem be solved? Falling back to the > good old Qt4 js intepreter?? > QtQuick not being able on iPhone or iPad is a big loss. There's currently no known solution. QtQuick2 is too dependent on V8. -

[Development] v8 on iOS again

2012-04-14 Thread Hai Phaikawl
Again, how would the "v8 on iOS" problem be solved? Falling back to the good old Qt4 js intepreter?? QtQuick not being able on iPhone or iPad is a big loss. ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listin

Re: [Development] V8 on iOS

2012-04-02 Thread aaron.kennedy
Hi, On 02/04/2012, at 3:04 PM, ext marius.storm-ol...@nokia.com wrote: > On 02/04/2012 08:06, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: >> On segunda-feira, 2 de abril de 2012 13.02.08, >> aaron.kenn...@nokia.com wrote: >>> On 02/04/2012, at 2:21 PM, ext Ian wrote: Chris, Thanks for your answer. So, the lo

Re: [Development] V8 on iOS

2012-04-02 Thread Ian
Too many technical terms that I don't have (or want) intimate understanding of... :/ What I'm going to take away from this discussion is that it is expensive and complex to implement anything other than what there is right now, and if any work would be done on that in the forseeable future, it

Re: [Development] V8 on iOS

2012-04-02 Thread Thiago Macieira
On segunda-feira, 2 de abril de 2012 16.17.35, Ian wrote: > Hmmm, so from what I understand, there may be a bytecode backend for V8 at > some point (for platforms like MIPS for example), but that work hasn't MIPS has opted instead to write an assembler backend. The effort would have to be for yet

Re: [Development] V8 on iOS

2012-04-02 Thread Thiago Macieira
On segunda-feira, 2 de abril de 2012 14.04.24, marius.storm-ol...@nokia.com wrote: > > I don't think Apple will ever allow that. I don't think Apple will > > allow executing any code that isn't loaded strictly from disk. > > What do they use themselves for their own webkit JS engine? Probably Java

Re: [Development] V8 on iOS

2012-04-02 Thread Ian
Hmmm, so from what I understand, there may be a bytecode backend for V8 at some point (for platforms like MIPS for example), but that work hasn't begun in any way other than "maybe some time in the future", and even if it was decided to implement that, it's quite some time off. AFAIK Apple blo

Re: [Development] V8 on iOS

2012-04-02 Thread marius.storm-olsen
On 02/04/2012 08:06, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: > On segunda-feira, 2 de abril de 2012 13.02.08, > aaron.kenn...@nokia.com wrote: >> On 02/04/2012, at 2:21 PM, ext Ian wrote: >>> Chris, Thanks for your answer. So, the low-down is that it's not >>> (practically) possible to use QML without V8, and e

Re: [Development] V8 on iOS

2012-04-02 Thread Thiago Macieira
On segunda-feira, 2 de abril de 2012 13.02.08, aaron.kenn...@nokia.com wrote: > Hi, > > On 02/04/2012, at 2:21 PM, ext Ian wrote: > > Chris, > > > > Thanks for your answer. So, the low-down is that it's not (practically) > > possible to use QML without V8, and even if V8 did have a interpreter > >

Re: [Development] V8 on iOS

2012-04-02 Thread aaron.kennedy
Hi, On 02/04/2012, at 2:21 PM, ext Ian wrote: > Chris, > > Thanks for your answer. So, the low-down is that it's not (practically) > possible to use QML without V8, and even if V8 did have a interpreter > backend, > it would be too slow to be useable? If so, I guess I'm going to have to find

Re: [Development] V8 on iOS

2012-04-02 Thread Ian
Chris, Thanks for your answer. So, the low-down is that it's not (practically) possible to use QML without V8, and even if V8 did have a interpreter backend, it would be too slow to be useable? If so, I guess I'm going to have to find a way to get V8 working on iOS... wrote: (04/02/2012 01:19

Re: [Development] V8 on iOS

2012-04-01 Thread christopher.adams
Hi, >> At this point, I'm either looking for an alternative to V8 > > This is more of an follow-up question for the list than a reply: > > QtDeclarative includes the V4 javascript interpreter that (as far as I know) > can > handle simple javascript expressions. How far can you get with V4

Re: [Development] V8 on iOS

2012-03-30 Thread morten.sorvig
On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:54 PM, ext Ian wrote: At this point, I'm either looking for an alternative to V8 This is more of an follow-up question for the list than a reply: QtDeclarative includes the V4 javascript interpreter that (as far as I know) can handle simple javascript expressions. How far

Re: [Development] V8 on iOS

2012-03-30 Thread Ian
Apologies for the repost, wrong subject used. >This[1] is not the ABI that is used? > >[1] >http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/Xcode/Conceptual/iPhoneOSABIReference/iPhoneOSABIReference.pdf I have enough information about the ABI to know that it's similar to (but not the same a

Re: [Development] V8 on iOS

2012-03-30 Thread Holger Hans Peter Freyther
On 03/30/2012 02:24 PM, Ian wrote: > There is another (possibly even bigger) issue in the ARM BI used by Apple on > iOS. > It's not EABI (which AFAIK V8 on ARM is written for), and it's not even > documented AFAIK, so even though it's similar to EABI (from what I've seen so > far), it's not the

[Development] V8 on iOS

2012-03-30 Thread Ian
Hi all, The first tentative steps for getting iOS support into Qt5 have been made ( really it's only a few small patches to get the build working - there's nothing it could be used for yet). There's a possible issue with running any Javascript interpreter on iOS (IIRC one of the App Store rules