Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-03 Thread Laszlo Papp
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Alan Alpert <4163654...@gmail.com> wrote: > Scenegraph is inherently tight to QtQuick, but it is not your only > option for hardware acceleration inside Qt. E'en in ye goode olde days > I believed there was hardware acceleration somewhere in the pipeline, > for exa

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-02 Thread Laszlo Papp
Hmm, I have not mentioned "good old rendering engine". If I wanted to do that, probably this scene graph thread would be inadequate. ;-) To me, your post reads like if a hardware accelerated ui building technology like this was inherently tight to QtQuick and QML. If that is the case, and Qt has n

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-02 Thread Laszlo Papp
On 2 August 2013 09:42, Sletta Gunnar wrote: > > > The audience may not need it, but I would. :-) "less pressing" means it > is not high priority for you, but contribution is welcome? > > 1 makes it possible for anyone to do 2-4 outside of Qt, and unless there > are convincing arguments why they

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-02 Thread Laszlo Papp
On 2 August 2013 08:39, Sletta Gunnar wrote: > > On Aug 1, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Laszlo Papp wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Sletta Gunnar > wrote: > > Indeed, the proposed patch created an new library (which was only built > when manually cd'ing into src/scenegraph and building it th

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-01 Thread Laszlo Papp
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quinta-feira, 1 de agosto de 2013 20:21:23, Laszlo Papp wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Thiago Macieira > > > > wrote: > > > On quinta-feira, 1 de agosto de 2013 19:38:12, Laszlo Papp wrote: > > > > 3 > > > > > > This discussio

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-01 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 1 de agosto de 2013 20:21:23, Laszlo Papp wrote: > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Thiago Macieira > > wrote: > > On quinta-feira, 1 de agosto de 2013 19:38:12, Laszlo Papp wrote: > > > 3 > > > > This discussion is going off on a tangent but... > > > > you do realise that there'

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-01 Thread Laszlo Papp
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quinta-feira, 1 de agosto de 2013 19:38:12, Laszlo Papp wrote: > > 3 > > This discussion is going off on a tangent but... > > you do realise that there's an overhead associated with dynamic libraries, > right? The code runs slightly slowe

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-01 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 1 de agosto de 2013 19:38:12, Laszlo Papp wrote: > 3 This discussion is going off on a tangent but... you do realise that there's an overhead associated with dynamic libraries, right? The code runs slightly slower due to indirect access to functons and data, and there's a start

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-01 Thread Laszlo Papp
t QtQml/QtQuick)? > > > Simon > > *Fra: *Laszlo Papp > *Sendt: *19:30 torsdag 1. august 2013 > *Til: *Thiago Macieira > *Kopi: *development@qt-project.org > *Emne: *Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Thiago Macieira <

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-01 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 1 de agosto de 2013 18:30:32, Laszlo Papp wrote: > Err... 1) does not make a difference on embedded with a small NOR/NAND > flash? Perhaps, you are thinking about desktop? As far as I can tell, it is > such a big difference that we would need reject Qt if we only had the > static l

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-01 Thread Hausmann Simon
Macieira Kopi: development@qt-project.org Emne: Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Thiago Macieira mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com>> wrote: On quinta-feira, 1 de agosto de 2013 17:57:03, Laszlo Papp wrote: > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Hausm

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-01 Thread Laszlo Papp
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quinta-feira, 1 de agosto de 2013 17:57:03, Laszlo Papp wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Hausmann Simon > wrote: > > > What is the advantage of this approach over static linkage? > > > > 1) Not linking into more applications ru

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-01 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 1 de agosto de 2013 17:57:03, Laszlo Papp wrote: > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Hausmann Simon wrote: > > What is the advantage of this approach over static linkage? > > 1) Not linking into more applications running. > > 2) It is also safer for the LGPLv2 license without an

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-01 Thread Laszlo Papp
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Hausmann Simon wrote: > What is the advantage of this approach over static linkage? > 1) Not linking into more applications running. 2) It is also safer for the LGPLv2 license without an exception for static linking into commercial code. 3) shared library is mor

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-01 Thread Hausmann Simon
What is the advantage of this approach over static linkage? Simon Fra: Laszlo Papp Sendt: 18:06 torsdag 1. august 2013 Til: Thiago Macieira Kopi: development@qt-project.org Emne: Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Thiago Macieira mailto:thiago.macie

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-01 Thread andy fillebrown
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Laszlo Papp wrote: > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Thiago Macieira > wrote: > >> On quinta-feira, 1 de agosto de 2013 09:59:44, Laszlo Papp wrote: >> > I would be personally more than happy for scene graph to become compact, >> > i.e. qml and qtquick being a se

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-01 Thread Laszlo Papp
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quinta-feira, 1 de agosto de 2013 09:59:44, Laszlo Papp wrote: > > I would be personally more than happy for scene graph to become compact, > > i.e. qml and qtquick being a separate layer. I do not mind in which > > repository this separa

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-01 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 1 de agosto de 2013 09:59:44, Laszlo Papp wrote: > I would be personally more than happy for scene graph to become compact, > i.e. qml and qtquick being a separate layer. I do not mind in which > repository this separation happens in; that is just details for me, not a > technology

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-08-01 Thread Laszlo Papp
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Sletta Gunnar wrote: > Indeed, the proposed patch created an new library (which was only built > when manually cd'ing into src/scenegraph and building it there) which would > not have been usable together with Qt Quick (until Qt 6, that is). > I would be personally

Re: [Development] QtSC: Scene Graph discussion

2013-07-31 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 31 de julho de 2013 08:33:16, Sletta Gunnar wrote: > Stand alone module. Though the scene graph is public API inside Qt Quick, > the question has been raised in the past if it makes sense to make it > possible to build it into a separate module. Not an officially supported > module