Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-19 Thread Mediator Software
On 2013/03/19 1:57 AM, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: > > Not every app should be styled native. Not every app should be styled custom. > Some should use a combination of both. It all depends on what's appropriate > for the situation at hand. All I'm asking is that people recognize that we > need >

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On segunda-feira, 18 de março de 2013 19.57.41, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: > On Mar 18, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Mediator Software wrote: > > In "the real world", Qt on iOS is being used primarily to port existing > > QtWidget applications to the iPad, not to write new ones (nor to do > > anything on a

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-18 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
On Mar 18, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Mediator Software wrote: > In "the real world", Qt on iOS is being used primarily to port existing > QtWidget > applications to the iPad, not to write new ones (nor to do anything on any > other > iOS platforms). There is a single customer using QML on iOS, once

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-18 Thread Mediator Software
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 08:37:19AM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On segunda-feira, 11 de março de 2013 07.41.02, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: > > Jens claimed on the blog that the native look and feel matters less in the > > mobile world because each app is fullscreen. I agree that it matters

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-16 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
Me again. I thought I'd announce that I've pushed the first QIosStyle commit to Gerrit: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,51167 I will be doing all work on the class here in the public eye until it is done and ready to be merged (hopefully before 5.2 at the latest, 5.1 if we're lucky). I

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-14 Thread Bache-Wiig Jens
On Mar 13, 2013, at 10:07 PM, Jake Thomas Petroules mailto:jake.petrou...@petroules.com>> wrote: On Mar 13, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Bache-Wiig Jens mailto:jens.bache-w...@digia.com>> wrote: Exactly. Being able to do pixel perfect layouts within the Qt Quick designer is one of the arguments against

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-14 Thread Sorvig Morten
On Mar 13, 2013, at 10:07 PM, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: > So, the only thing left to say is that I hope the issue is not whether > QiOSStyle is welcome in QtGui at all, but simply whether it can be > technically achieved and whether there is someone to do the work. If it's the > latter, t

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-14 Thread André Somers
Op 13-3-2013 18:43, Bache-Wiig Jens schreef: Exactly. Being able to do pixel perfect layouts within the Qt Quick designer is one of the arguments against an IOS QStyle implementation. I would like to be able to see and run my apps _exactly_ as they would look on the device, without having to

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-14 Thread Rutledge Shawn
On 13 Mar 2013, at 10:07 PM, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: > > As Morten said, "The way to prove us wrong is of course to step up and > implement (and maintain) such a style.". Therefore, I will implement and > maintain QiOSStyle. Of course any help would be appreciated as well. I agree with th

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-13 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
On Mar 13, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Bache-Wiig Jens wrote: > Exactly. Being able to do pixel perfect layouts within the Qt Quick designer > is one of the arguments against an IOS QStyle implementation. I would like to > be able to see and run my apps _exactly_ as they would look on the device, > with

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-13 Thread joao morgado
_ De: Bache-Wiig Jens Para: joao morgado Cc: Gustavsen Richard ; development Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 13 de Março de 2013 17:43 Assunto: Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle On Mar 13, 2013, at 5:07 PM, joao morgado  wrote: To Richard:  >What your saying makes perfect sense to me, and

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-13 Thread Bache-Wiig Jens
On Mar 13, 2013, at 5:07 PM, joao morgado mailto:joaodeusmorg...@yahoo.com>> wrote: To Richard: What your saying makes perfect sense to me, and whatever solution your team comes up with, for iOS style, I'm sure it will be handsome, (it's Qt we're talking after all :) ). Just some toughts f

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-13 Thread joao morgado
Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 13 de Março de 2013 14:32 Assunto: Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle On Mar 13, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Frank Hemer wrote: > On Wednesday 13 March 2013 04:46:43 joao morgado wrote: >> I really don't understand why QtWidgets are not suitable for mo

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-13 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 13 de março de 2013 00.51.05, André Pönitz wrote: > I'll try hard to abstain from anything resembling irony or sarcasm. > I just want to carry on this theoretical discussion based on purely > hypothetical facts. > > I'd ask you kindly to either read all, or nothing. Hi André With

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-13 Thread Gustavsen Richard
On Mar 13, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Frank Hemer wrote: > On Wednesday 13 March 2013 04:46:43 joao morgado wrote: >> I really don't understand why QtWidgets are not suitable for mobile >> plataforms. What is the technicall reason ? Following the Qt "code once >> deploy everywhere" I have apps with pra

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-13 Thread Frank Hemer
On Wednesday 13 March 2013 04:46:43 joao morgado wrote: > I really don't understand why QtWidgets are not suitable for mobile > plataforms. What is the technicall reason ? Following the Qt "code once > deploy everywhere" I have apps with pratically the same code for desktop, > symbian and Blackberr

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-13 Thread joao morgado
% native.  João de Deus De: Thiago Macieira Para: development@qt-project.org Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 11 de Março de 2013 15:37 Assunto: Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle On segunda-feira, 11 de março de 2013 07.41.02, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: > J

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-12 Thread André Pönitz
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 05:59:01PM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On segunda-feira, 11 de março de 2013 23.02.02, André Pönitz wrote: > > Why shouldn't it be possible to have a clearly layered stack with > > proper interfaces? > > Maybe "possible" is not the right point. The point is whether it i

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-12 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
I'm already working on some preliminary testing for QIosStyle. I don't know how long it'll be before I have something on Gerrit but it will come. -- Jake Petroules Chief Technology Officer Petroules Corporation · www.petroules.com Email: jake.petrou...@petroules.com On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:52 AM,

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-12 Thread Sorvig Morten
> > Another good example of iOS app that does not quite follow the native UI is > LinkedIn. I really like it, and I agree with you when you say some design > alternatives can actually look even better than the stock native style based > ones. But I am assuming this is not the point in this discuss

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-12 Thread Tor Arne Vestbø
I agree 100% with Jens. That is all. tor arne On 3/12/13 8:56 , Bache-Wiig Jens wrote: > [snip] ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-12 Thread Rafael Roquetto
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 07:56:33AM +, Bache-Wiig Jens wrote: > > On Mar 11, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Jake Thomas Petroules > wrote: > > > By the way, I don't know if you saw my comments on your "Qt for iOS > > Preview" blog post, but... > > > > You stated that because there is no HITheme-like A

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-12 Thread Bache-Wiig Jens
On Mar 11, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: > By the way, I don't know if you saw my comments on your "Qt for iOS Preview" > blog post, but... > > You stated that because there is no HITheme-like API on iOS, that creating > QiOSStyle would be "not possible". > > However, we c

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-11 Thread Thiago Macieira
On segunda-feira, 11 de março de 2013 23.02.02, André Pönitz wrote: > Why shouldn't it be possible to have a clearly layered stack with > proper interfaces? Maybe "possible" is not the right point. The point is whether it is feasible with the time and manpower available. Defining a proper interfa

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-11 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Raul Metsma wrote: > here is one other solution > http://docs.appcelerator.com/titanium/latest/ > javascript and native looking widgets under ios Perhaps we could look into this. On Mar 11, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On segunda-feira, 11 de març

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-11 Thread André Pönitz
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 01:38:28PM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On segunda-feira, 11 de março de 2013 19.45.48, André Pönitz wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 08:37:19AM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > > On segunda-feira, 11 de março de 2013 07.41.02, Jake Thomas Petroules > wrote: > > > > J

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-11 Thread Raul Metsma
here is one other solution http://docs.appcelerator.com/titanium/latest/ javascript and native looking widgets under ios Raul On Mar 11, 2013, at 10:58 PM, Rafael Roquetto wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 01:40:18PM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: >> On segunda-feira, 11 de março de 2013 16.54.31

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-11 Thread Rafael Roquetto
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 01:40:18PM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On segunda-feira, 11 de março de 2013 16.54.31, Rafael Roquetto wrote: > > Why not? I agree that QtQuick is usually the way to go for implementing > > mobile UI, but that doesn't exclude QtWidgets for any reasons a developer > > may

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-11 Thread Thiago Macieira
On segunda-feira, 11 de março de 2013 16.54.31, Rafael Roquetto wrote: > Why not? I agree that QtQuick is usually the way to go for implementing > mobile UI, but that doesn't exclude QtWidgets for any reasons a developer > may wish to use it. When we did the BlackBerry port, we did implement a > Bl

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-11 Thread Thiago Macieira
On segunda-feira, 11 de março de 2013 19.45.48, André Pönitz wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 08:37:19AM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > On segunda-feira, 11 de março de 2013 07.41.02, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: > > > Jens claimed on the blog that the native look and feel matters less in > > >

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-11 Thread Rafael Roquetto
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 08:37:19AM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On segunda-feira, 11 de março de 2013 07.41.02, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: > > Jens claimed on the blog that the native look and feel matters less in the > > mobile world because each app is fullscreen. I agree that it matters les

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-11 Thread André Pönitz
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 08:37:19AM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On segunda-feira, 11 de março de 2013 07.41.02, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: > > Jens claimed on the blog that the native look and feel matters less in the > > mobile world because each app is fullscreen. I agree that it matters les

Re: [Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-11 Thread Thiago Macieira
On segunda-feira, 11 de março de 2013 07.41.02, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: > Jens claimed on the blog that the native look and feel matters less in the > mobile world because each app is fullscreen. I agree that it matters less, > but I disagree that it matters little enough for us to ignore it.

[Development] Qt for iOS - iOSStyle

2013-03-11 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
By the way, I don't know if you saw my comments on your "Qt for iOS Preview" blog post, but... You stated that because there is no HITheme-like API on iOS, that creating QiOSStyle would be "not possible". However, we can render any UIView into a buffer using [UIView drawInRect:] which we shoul