Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-07-08 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 01/07/2019 09.56, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: > 01.07.2019, 13:30, "Ville Voutilainen" : >> On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 at 14:34, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: >>>  Or even better: split page into "tiles" (i.e. portions of page with height >>> of viewport) and >>>  render long page as a sequnece of tiles. T

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-07-05 Thread Edward Welbourne
Cristian Adam (28 June 2019 14:01) wrote: > I think that developing a HTML to QML conversion tool is in the interest of > the Qt Project / Company. > > This would make it easy to convert existing HTML5 projects and sell the QML > story. I do not think a fully general HTML5->QML converter is feas

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-07-03 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development
On 03/07/2019 11:28, Cristian Adam wrote: I was thinking at the full LLVM OpenGL Software Renderer. But what about Qt Quick 2D Renderer? Could that simply work only in the help plugin, without necessarily needing an external process? Not with the current implementation of Qt Quick 2. My 2 c,

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-07-03 Thread Cristian Adam
> -Original Message- > From: Giuseppe D'Angelo > Sent: Monday, 1 July 2019 16:10 > To: Konstantin Tokarev ; Ville Voutilainen > > Cc: Cristian Adam ; development@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant > &g

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-07-01 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
01.07.2019, 17:10, "Giuseppe D'Angelo" : > Il 01/07/19 15:56, Konstantin Tokarev ha scritto: >>  If we include assumption #4, we can just render document >> paragraph-by-paragraph, encode >>  resulting images of paragraphs to PNG and send to UI process. > > All of this "cross platform" (possibly

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-07-01 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development
Il 01/07/19 15:56, Konstantin Tokarev ha scritto: If we include assumption #4, we can just render document paragraph-by-paragraph, encode resulting images of paragraphs to PNG and send to UI process. All of this "cross platform" (possibly), "efficient" (on the spot PNG compression through loc

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-07-01 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
01.07.2019, 13:30, "Ville Voutilainen" : > On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 at 14:34, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: >>  29.06.2019, 14:27, "Konstantin Tokarev" : >>  > 29.06.2019, 14:00, "Giuseppe D'Angelo" : >>  >> Il 29/06/19 12:59, Konstantin Tokarev ha scritto: >>   This makes the exercise an couple of o

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-07-01 Thread Ville Voutilainen
On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 at 14:34, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: > > > > 29.06.2019, 14:27, "Konstantin Tokarev" : > > 29.06.2019, 14:00, "Giuseppe D'Angelo" : > >> Il 29/06/19 12:59, Konstantin Tokarev ha scritto: > This makes the exercise an couple of orders of magnitude harder, not > simp

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-06-29 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
29.06.2019, 14:27, "Konstantin Tokarev" : > 29.06.2019, 14:00, "Giuseppe D'Angelo" : >>  Il 29/06/19 12:59, Konstantin Tokarev ha scritto:   This makes the exercise an couple of orders of magnitude harder, not   simpler. Which cross platform, efficient, flicker-free, (possibly   su

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-06-29 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
29.06.2019, 14:00, "Giuseppe D'Angelo" : > Il 29/06/19 12:59, Konstantin Tokarev ha scritto: >>>  This makes the exercise an couple of orders of magnitude harder, not >>>  simpler. Which cross platform, efficient, flicker-free, (possibly >>>  supported out of the box by some Qt module) ways are a

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-06-29 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development
Il 29/06/19 12:59, Konstantin Tokarev ha scritto: This makes the exercise an couple of orders of magnitude harder, not simpler. Which cross platform, efficient, flicker-free, (possibly supported out of the box by some Qt module) ways are available right now to have a QWidget host another process'

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-06-29 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
29.06.2019, 13:52, "Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development" : > Il 29/06/19 09:57, Cristian Adam ha scritto: >>  We could have the help plugin using an external process, this way that >> process can >>  use the software renderer by itself. > > This makes the exercise an couple of orders of magnitude

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-06-29 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development
Il 29/06/19 09:57, Cristian Adam ha scritto: We could have the help plugin using an external process, this way that process can use the software renderer by itself. This makes the exercise an couple of orders of magnitude harder, not simpler. Which cross platform, efficient, flicker-free, (po

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-06-29 Thread Cristian Adam
> -Original Message- > From: Development On Behalf Of > Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development > Sent: Friday, 28 June 2019 18:22 > To: development@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant > > Il 28/06/19 13

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-06-28 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development
Il 28/06/19 13:37, Cristian Adam ha scritto: The Software OpenGL Renderer should fix any problems that one might have with Qt Quick. I tried it with back in 2017 in "Qt Creator, Ubuntu, and VirtualBox" [1] I don't know how slow would Qt Creator work in such environments though. The decision o

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-06-28 Thread André Pönitz
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 11:25:27AM +, Jedrzej Nowacki wrote: > On Friday, June 28, 2019 11:32:43 AM CEST Cristian Adam wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Some of you might have been familiar with white papers such as Qt QML v > > HTML5 – a practical > > comparison

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-06-28 Thread André Pönitz
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 11:37:57AM +, Cristian Adam wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: André Pönitz > > Sent: Friday, 28 June 2019 13:23 > > To: Cristian Adam > > Cc: development@qt-project.org > > Subject: Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-06-28 Thread Cristian Adam
> -Original Message- > From: Development On Behalf Of > Konstantin Tokarev > Sent: Friday, 28 June 2019 13:33 > To: Jedrzej Nowacki ; development@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant > > What about external

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-06-28 Thread Cristian Adam
> -Original Message- > From: André Pönitz > Sent: Friday, 28 June 2019 13:23 > To: Cristian Adam > Cc: development@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant > > > Having the documentation as QML will have n

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-06-28 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
28.06.2019, 14:29, "Jedrzej Nowacki" : > On Friday, June 28, 2019 11:32:43 AM CEST Cristian Adam wrote: >>  Hi, >> >>  Some of you might have been familiar with white papers such as Qt QML v >>  HTML5 – a practical >>  comparison>

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-06-28 Thread Jedrzej Nowacki
On Friday, June 28, 2019 11:32:43 AM CEST Cristian Adam wrote: > Hi, > > Some of you might have been familiar with white papers such as Qt QML v > HTML5 – a practical > comparison %20QT4/WHITEPAPER_HTML5vQML.pdf>. > Qt Creator al

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-06-28 Thread André Pönitz
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 09:32:43AM +, Cristian Adam wrote: > Hi, > > Some of you might have been familiar with white papers such as Qt QML v HTML5 > – > a practical > comparison. > > Qt Creator a

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-06-28 Thread Cristian Adam
> -Original Message- > From: Samuel Gaist > Sent: Friday, 28 June 2019 11:56 > To: Cristian Adam > Cc: development@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant > > > > > On 28 Jun 2019, at 11:32,

Re: [Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-06-28 Thread Samuel Gaist
> On 28 Jun 2019, at 11:32, Cristian Adam wrote: > > Hi, > > Some of you might have been familiar with white papers such as Qt QML v HTML5 > – a practical comparison. > > Qt Creator already ships with QML support, why not transform the HTML offline > documentation into QML? > Does it have

[Development] HTML5/CSS vs Qt QML and QtCreator / Assistant

2019-06-28 Thread Cristian Adam
Hi, Some of you might have been familiar with white papers such as Qt QML v HTML5 – a practical comparison. Qt Creator already ships with QML support, why not transform the HTML offline documentati