Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-12 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 12 de junho de 2013 11.31.33, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: > According to Xcode the default is libstdc++ anyways. Not to us. The default is libc++ because C++11 is enabled by default if supported, because clang is the default and clang does support C++11. -- Thiago Macieira - t

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-12 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
According to Xcode the default is libstdc++ anyways. -- Jake Petroules Chief Technology Officer Petroules Corporation · www.petroules.com Email: jake.petrou...@petroules.com On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quarta-feira, 12 de junho de 2013 13.38.19, Bruning Michael wro

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-12 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 12 de junho de 2013 13.38.19, Bruning Michael wrote: > As far as I can see, libc++ was never officially supported by Apple on 10.6 > and to get it built and running from sources, there's some handwork > required and things might and probably will break without prior notice. So > I

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-11 Thread Thiago Macieira
On terça-feira, 11 de junho de 2013 09.26.23, Ziller Eike wrote: > When I build Qt 5.1 in the current standard configuration (e.g. with c++11 > and therefore with libc++) I still get QtScript and QtWebKit built against > libstdc++ and with deployment target 10.6, even though the rest of Qt is > bui

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On segunda-feira, 10 de junho de 2013 10.30.12, Tor Arne Vestbø wrote: > Wait, are you talking about something else here? The QtLocation issue > had nothing to do with CONFIG -= qt. It was caused by a part of Qt not > picking up the generic Qt build config (that enables C++11 if enabled by > config

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-07 Thread Thiago Macieira
On sexta-feira, 7 de junho de 2013 18.50.52, Olivier Goffart wrote: > On Friday 07 June 2013 10:22:56 Koehne Kai wrote: > > My suggestion: > > - Leave Qt 5.1.0 as it is right now, move on with the release process > > - Investigate providing an additional binary installer with Qt compiled > > > >

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-07 Thread Thiago Macieira
On sexta-feira, 7 de junho de 2013 10.22.56, Koehne Kai wrote: > Situation with Qt 5.1 as it is > - Binary installer is compiled with OS X 10.7 > - You cannot deploy with them to 10.6 > - If you want to deploy to 10.6 without QtWebKit you have to compile Qt > yourself, on OS X 10.6, or on OS X 1

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-06 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 6 de junho de 2013 11.22.28, Koehne Kai wrote: > > That means we need to change the Qt 5.1 RC1 build scripts to pass > > -no-c++11. > Isn't the lower risk approach to just revert the change in the release > branch? That is, we'd have the same behavior as with 5.0. I understand that

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-06 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quinta-feira, 6 de junho de 2013 07.52.53, Ziller Eike wrote: > Just for clarification, the default mkspec of Qt 5 on Mac is clang (without > libc++), not gcc/g++ . The default mkspec on Mac is now clang *with* libc++. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com Software Architect -

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-06 Thread Thiago Macieira
On terça-feira, 4 de junho de 2013 15.55.10, Thiago Macieira wrote: > As of 3d0a60aaa4077a8 in Qt 5.2 That change is in 5.1. That means we need to change the Qt 5.1 RC1 build scripts to pass -no-c++11. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com Software Architect - Intel Open Source Te

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-05 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 5 de junho de 2013 15.49.53, Tor Arne Vestbø wrote: > On 6/5/13 12:49 , Gustavsen Richard wrote: > >> From reading this thread, it seems that 10.6 support is pretty > >> important. But right now you need to build Qt from sources yourself > >> to get it. > > > > Is this good enough?

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-05 Thread Josh Faust
> The migration from OS X 10.5/6 to newer versions looks steadier than > for Windows for us at least. On the other hand, Apple makes it > somewhat harder to support old versions of OS X compared to Windows. > The analogy isn't perfect, that's for sure -- Microsoft still supports XP ~11 years late

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-05 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
On Jun 5, 2013, at 6:49 AM, Gustavsen Richard wrote: > > On Jun 5, 2013, at 5:26 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > >> On terça-feira, 4 de junho de 2013 19.32.57, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: >>> Well, Xcode 5.0 will be dropping support for GCC, so the only way to target >>> 10.6 or below will be

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-04 Thread Laszlo Papp
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Jake Thomas Petroules < jake.petrou...@petroules.com> wrote: > I was being half-sarcastic about 2016, but I do strongly disagree that we > should indiscriminately support only N number of versions of OS X at a > time; it's too rigid. I think significantly more weigh

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-04 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:26 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On terça-feira, 4 de junho de 2013 19.32.57, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: >> Well, Xcode 5.0 will be dropping support for GCC, so the only way to target >> 10.6 or below will be with clang + libstc++. > > Right, I missed that clang + libstdc+

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-04 Thread Thiago Macieira
On terça-feira, 4 de junho de 2013 19.32.57, Jake Thomas Petroules wrote: > Well, Xcode 5.0 will be dropping support for GCC, so the only way to target > 10.6 or below will be with clang + libstc++. Right, I missed that clang + libstdc++ was still possible with -no-c++11. It's a non-default option

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-04 Thread Josh Faust
> Supporting 10.6 is a huge priority given that version has the largest > market share of all OS X versions (about 35%). Do we really want to wipe > out over a third of potential end-users of Qt-based products? Dropping > support for it at this point is an absolutely terrible idea, and 10.9 is > no

Re: [Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-04 Thread Jake Thomas Petroules
Well, Xcode 5.0 will be dropping support for GCC, so the only way to target 10.6 or below will be with clang + libstc++. Supporting 10.6 is a huge priority given that version has the largest market share of all OS X versions (about 35%). Do we really want to wipe out over a third of potential e

[Development] Clarification on Mac 10.6 support for Qt 5.2

2013-06-04 Thread Thiago Macieira
Hello all As of 3d0a60aaa4077a8 in Qt 5.2, Qt requires libc++ in order to build on Mac with clang. That means the minimum deployment target for macx-clang is Mac OS X 10.7 now. Question: do we want to keep supporting Mac OS X 10.6? If so, for how long? And if not, can we drop macx-g++? The g++