On Tuesday 28 July 2015 18:42:20 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
> > People were warned in the changelog.
>
> I've already quoted Adams in JIRA, but this is exactly how changelog warnen
> users of Qt about this change:
> https://youtu.be/VGLFweev_iI?t=386
>
> Among panicking customers not understanding
On Tuesday 28 July 2015 09:44:23 Matthew Woehlke wrote:
> While I'm generally trying to stay out of this debate, I'd like to toss
> in that a QString → QString or QString → QByteArray function that
> converts from "raw" to either C-style escaped or HTML-style escaped (or
> for bonus points, both),
> People were warned in the changelog.
I've already quoted Adams in JIRA, but this is exactly how changelog warnen
users of Qt about this change:
https://youtu.be/VGLFweev_iI?t=386
Among panicking customers not understanding wtf is happening,
unintelligible message,
posted in the wrong place and
I would repeat what I said in JIRA. Everything that Thiago explained makes
sense to me as soon as it does not break behavior of existing applications.
If global flag to enable escaping of QString contents is going to be
introduced then it should be disabled by default.
On changes that might break
On 2015-07-28 04:29, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote:
> Isn't this needless convenience? Yet another environment variable that
> needs documenting? If you want to inspect the contents of a QString, can't
> you just add the suitable escape code to your own code? Forcing
> qPrintable() or qUtf8Printable
2015-07-28 9:50 GMT+02:00 Robert Iakobashvili :
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Marc Mutz wrote:
> > On Monday 27 July 2015 20:44:48 Thiago Macieira wrote:
> >> On Monday 27 July 2015 21:41:44 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
> >> > Yes,but this requires making override visible in every file of the
>
On 28 Jul 2015, at 10:48, Marc Mutz wrote:
> On Monday 27 July 2015 20:44:48 Thiago Macieira wrote:
>> On Monday 27 July 2015 21:41:44 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
>>> Yes,but this requires making override visible in every file of the
>>> project.
>>
>> We can solve this by having a global #ifdef t
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Marc Mutz wrote:
> On Monday 27 July 2015 20:44:48 Thiago Macieira wrote:
>> On Monday 27 July 2015 21:41:44 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
>> > Yes,but this requires making override visible in every file of the
>> > project.
>>
>> We can solve this by having a global #
On Monday 27 July 2015 20:44:48 Thiago Macieira wrote:
> On Monday 27 July 2015 21:41:44 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
> > Yes,but this requires making override visible in every file of the
> > project.
>
> We can solve this by having a global #ifdef that can change the setting.
Or an environment vari
On Monday 27 July 2015 22:01:26 Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote:
> > On 27 Jul 2015, at 21:14, Thiago Macieira
> > wrote:>
> > On Monday 27 July 2015 21:50:15 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
> >> Oh, but now you KNOW that it is a misspeled link to paypal. In real
> >> situation you won't have this forward
> On 27 Jul 2015, at 21:14, Thiago Macieira wrote:
>
> On Monday 27 July 2015 21:50:15 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
>> Oh, but now you KNOW that it is a misspeled link to paypal. In real
>> situation you won't have this forward knowlegde.
>
> The point is that I have all of the information I need.
On Monday 27 July 2015 21:50:15 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
> Oh, but now you KNOW that it is a misspeled link to paypal. In real
> situation you won't have this forward knowlegde.
The point is that I have all of the information I need. If I see a debug
output saying:
ClassName::openLink: trying to
Oh, but now you KNOW that it is a misspeled link to paypal. In real
situation you won't have this forward knowlegde.
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Thiago Macieira
wrote:
> On Monday 27 July 2015 21:27:23 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
> > \u0440\u0430\u0443\u0440\u0430l.\u0441\u043em
> >
> > Oh, re
On Monday 27 July 2015 21:41:44 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
> Yes,but this requires making override visible in every file of the project.
We can solve this by having a global #ifdef that can change the setting.
--
Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com
Software Architect - Intel Open So
On Monday 27 July 2015 21:27:23 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
> \u0440\u0430\u0443\u0440\u0430l.\u0441\u043em
>
> Oh, really? Note, I said, without copypasting to uncode converter.
It's quite evident it's not a link to paypal.com because I can't see "paypal"
there.
--
Thiago Macieira - thiago.macie
Yes,but this requires making override visible in every file of the project.
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Ruslan Nigmatullin
wrote:
> 27.07.2015, 11:01, "NIkolai Marchenko" :
>
> > Once we venture into the territory of debugging 50%+ non-latin, it will
> be impossible to extract any useful in
27.07.2015, 11:01, "NIkolai Marchenko" :> Once we venture into the territory of debugging 50%+ non-latin, it will be impossible to extract any useful information from debug output at a glance. And that is the situation, where aforementioned flag to change the behaviour in one place will be VERY use
> \u0440\u0430\u0443\u0440\u0430l.\u0441\u043em
Can you really tell at a glance what exactly you are looking at here
without consulting the oracle or, at least, reencoding it to readable
format?
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Thiago Macieira
wrote:
> On Monday 27 July 2015 20:52:24 NIkolai Ma
\u0440\u0430\u0443\u0440\u0430l.\u0441\u043em
Oh, really? Note, I said, without copypasting to uncode converter.
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Thiago Macieira
wrote:
> On Monday 27 July 2015 20:52:24 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
> > Let's make it harder, can you guesss that it even is a link t
On Monday 27 July 2015 20:52:24 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
> Let's make it harder, can you guesss that it even is a link to paypal
> website with qDebug() as you intend it to work without copypasting?
>
> раураl.соm ?
>
> Hint: only 2 letters here are in english.
With qDebug() as it is in Qt 5.5,
> Once we venture into the territory of debugging 50%+ non-latin, it will
be impossible to extract any useful information from debug output at a
glance.
And that is the situation, where aforementioned flag to change the
behaviour in one place will be VERY useful. Unlike your suggestion of
fixing s
The problem with your approach to qDebug is that it only works well where
most of the text is in English and only individual letters are unicode.
Once we venture into the territory of debugging 50%+ non-latin, it will be
impossible to extract any useful information from debug output at a glance.
2
Let's make it harder, can you guesss that it even is a link to paypal
website with qDebug() as you intend it to work without copypasting?
раураl.соm ?
Hint: only 2 letters here are in english.
2015-07-27 20:25 GMT+03:00 Thiago Macieira :
> On Monday 27 July 2015 09:05:29 Thiago Macieira wrote:
Question, how much do you think this use case happens for non-latin users
compared to the one I, and Knoll Lars are arguing about?
2015-07-27 20:25 GMT+03:00 Thiago Macieira :
> On Monday 27 July 2015 09:05:29 Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > "а", which was the attack vector for homograph sites like pа
On Monday 27 July 2015 09:05:29 Thiago Macieira wrote:
> "а", which was the attack vector for homograph sites like pаypal.com or
> pаypаl.com or раураl.com or other permutations of the letters. A control
Question: which of the three is the legit website? And what method did you use
to find out?
On Monday 27 July 2015 01:25:18 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
> Hi! We (Russian Qt community) have a situation we could not resolve with
> Thiago Macieira in bug tracker, so have to ask for Chief Maintainer's
> attention.
> The bug in question is there:
> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-47316
Yes
On Monday 27. July 2015 01:25:18 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
> Hi! We (Russian Qt community) have a situation we could not resolve with
> Thiago Macieira in bug tracker, so have to ask for Chief Maintainer's
> attention.
> The bug in question is there:
> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-47316
>[.
My first instinct was suggesting MS to support Unicode in their console...
but then I tried to reproduce the described issue on OS X and succeeded.
qDebug() << "this is сообщение на русском";
which I'd expect to be treated like a byte array, gives me
this is сообщение на русском
though
qDebug()
On Monday 27 July 2015 00:25:18 NIkolai Marchenko wrote:
> (I am not entirely sure why I haven't received at least a notification of
> why this post has not appeared the first time I tried to send it, so here
> we go again. Btw, it was Thiago Macieira himself who actually suggested I
> mail this li
(I am not entirely sure why I haven't received at least a notification of
why this post has not appeared the first time I tried to send it, so here
we go again. Btw, it was Thiago Macieira himself who actually suggested I
mail this list)
Hi! We (Russian Qt community) have a situation we could not
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