Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-16 Thread Joseph Crowell
On 14/12/2012 8:27 PM, Martin Smith wrote: > +1 > > my problem with "I would prefer that you didn't submit this" is that -1 is > often used without including an explanation of what is wrong and how it > should be fixed. > > I like "This requires more work" better, but I think it will still be abu

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 09:57:15AM -0800, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On sexta-feira, 14 de dezembro de 2012 17.43.55, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > this is a self-contradicting interpretation. a minimal fully functional > > change is not splittable (i.e., it's atomic). therefore no part of that > > c

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Thiago Macieira
On sexta-feira, 14 de dezembro de 2012 17.43.55, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > this is a self-contradicting interpretation. a minimal fully functional > change is not splittable (i.e., it's atomic). therefore no part of that > change can legally exist on its own (i.e., satisfy the criterion of > bein

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 07:46:39AM -0800, Thiago Macieira wrote: > I don't think the feature is even enabled. We turned it on when we went live > and immediately found problems with the implementation, some coming from the > original description of the functionality. So we turned it off. > > Whe

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 07:49:26AM -0800, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On sexta-feira, 14 de dezembro de 2012 13.57.16, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > another reason is that any sane commit policy prescribes atomicity on a > > commit level, so forced grouping of commits isn't much of an advantage. > >

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Thiago Macieira
On sexta-feira, 14 de dezembro de 2012 19.55.03, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: > > I often read it as "it must be as small as possible" and sometimes my > > commits are not testable by themselves. > > In my understanding, "small as possible" means "can be cherry-picked on its > own" Again, that's not

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
digia@qt-project.org] On >>>  Behalf Of Sergio Ahumada >>>  Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 12:00 PM >>>  To: development@qt-project.org >>>  Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak >>> >>>   [...] >>> >>>  They

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
14.12.2012, 19:49, "Thiago Macieira" : > On sexta-feira, 14 de dezembro de 2012 13.57.16, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > >>  another reason is that any sane commit policy prescribes atomicity on a >>  commit level, so forced grouping of commits isn't much of an advantage. > > Note that "atomicity" h

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Thiago Macieira
On sexta-feira, 14 de dezembro de 2012 13.57.16, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > another reason is that any sane commit policy prescribes atomicity on a > commit level, so forced grouping of commits isn't much of an advantage. Note that "atomicity" here is ambiguous. Ossi was referring to "this chang

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Thiago Macieira
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 12:00 PM > > To: development@qt-project.org > > Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak > > > > [...] > > > > They just change the implementation between minor releases. > > Also, it seems like they don't

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Turunen Tuukka
On 14.12.2012 13.00, "Sergio Ahumada" wrote: >On 12/14/2012 11:54 AM, Bache-Wiig Jens wrote: >> >> Actually looking at the android version of gerrit which I presume would >> be using the upstream version they have omitted the comments entirely, >> merely using a "Code-Review +1" comment. >> The

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
14.12.2012, 15:02, "Sergio Ahumada" : > On 12/14/2012 11:54 AM, Bache-Wiig Jens wrote: > >>>  Oh well, if you already feel offended by this phrasing, I guess you >>>  should get a thicker skin ... we've people from very different >>>  cultures and with varying English language skills in the commu

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 08:50:16PM +, Jenssen Tim wrote: > > (Rethoric: should this go to a more generic qt list?) > > > > Hello > > > > (First a side question, is there a more consequent documentation about the > > use > > of gerrit?) > > > > Is it only me that finds the "-1" review default

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Koehne Kai
Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak > > [...] > They just change the implementation between minor releases. > Also, it seems like they don't want our features to be up-streamed, see > https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/repo- > discuss/gXjbuhfW0tg >

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Sergio Ahumada
On 12/14/2012 11:54 AM, Bache-Wiig Jens wrote: >> Oh well, if you already feel offended by this phrasing, I guess you >> should get a thicker skin ... we've people from very different >> cultures and with varying English language skills in the community, so >> you should just take things with a pin

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Bache-Wiig Jens
Oh well, if you already feel offended by this phrasing, I guess you should get a thicker skin ... we've people from very different cultures and with varying English language skills in the community, so you should just take things with a pinch of salt in general. Anyway, the sentence is from the

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Martin Smith
On Dec 14, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2012-12-13, Jenssen Tim wrote: >>> "I would prefer that you didn't submit this" >>> >>> reads to my brain much like "go f*k yourself" without the raw words. >>> >>> I get all the idea of the automating thing and all, and that machines have

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread André Somers
12 10:16 PM >> To: Jenssen Tim >> Cc: development@qt-project.org; Cristian Tibirna >> Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak >> >> +1 >> >> I have seen some people take serious issue with the phrasing; the iOS >> contributions spring t

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2012-12-13, Jenssen Tim wrote: >> "I would prefer that you didn't submit this" >> >> reads to my brain much like "go f*k yourself" without the raw words. >> >> I get all the idea of the automating thing and all, and that machines have no >> emotion, but, if I don't miss something obvious (this

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Bache-Wiig Jens
> Oh well, if you already feel offended by this phrasing, I guess you should > get a thicker skin ... we've people from very different cultures and with > varying English language skills in the community, so you should just take > things with a pinch of salt in general. > > Anyway, the sentence

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Samuel Rødal
> There's a point though that a lot of people (including me) are using -1 for > 'this requires more work', and -2 for 'the patch, or target branch is just > wrong, please abandon'. So if the intention of the patch is fine in general, > but contains some errors, I myself tend to give -1, though i

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-14 Thread Koehne Kai
project.org; Cristian Tibirna > Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak > > +1 > > I have seen some people take serious issue with the phrasing; the iOS > contributions spring to mind, but many people clearly feel publicly disgraced. Oh well, if you already feel offend

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-13 Thread Donald Carr
+1 I have seen some people take serious issue with the phrasing; the iOS contributions spring to mind, but many people clearly feel publicly disgraced. On Dec 13, 2012 12:51 PM, "Jenssen Tim" wrote: > > Von: > qt-creator-bounces+tim.jenssen=digia@qt-

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] gerrit-speak

2012-12-13 Thread Jenssen Tim
Von: qt-creator-bounces+tim.jenssen=digia@qt-project.org [qt-creator-bounces+tim.jenssen=digia@qt-project.org]" im Auftrag von "Cristian Tibirna [tibi...@kde.org] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. Dezember 2012 18:15 An: qt-crea...@qt-project.org Betreff: