Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-27 Thread Marco Bubke
.org Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator Edward Welbourne: > When you look into the feature that no-one uses much, you may find that most > users > that do use it have a crash report following close on the heels of their > use of

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-26 Thread Marco Bubke
lopment] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator Am 23.02.2018 um 11:54 schrieb Edward Welbourne: >> The proposed system provides anonymised and presumably aggregated >> data; so you won't be given, much less asked to evaluate, information >> about a

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-26 Thread Edward Welbourne
Am 23.02.2018 um 11:54 schrieb Edward Welbourne: >> The proposed system provides anonymised and presumably aggregated >> data; so you won't be given, much less asked to evaluate, information >> about a specific user A doing things at a specific time B; your >> objection is a straw man. You'd be ge

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-26 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
23.02.2018, 13:55, "Edward Welbourne" : > André Pönitz (22 February 2018 20:05) >>  Any number for a "measured" value for rate of crashes or memory leaks >>  is uninteresting for me when I run into the problem myself reqularly. >>  And trust me, I do. > > I trust you. > It is, however, possible y

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-26 Thread Tobias Hunger
Hi Tino, On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Tino Pyssysalo wrote: > I’ll clarify little bit, as my earlier comment about “any backend” has been > confusing. I requested a repo for a QtCreator analytics plugin, but we > realized why not to use a similar solution in other tools as well. I want to > c

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-23 Thread Adam Treat
ther to open a repo. From: Development on behalf of Robert Löhning Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 9:59:01 AM To: Edward Welbourne; André Pönitz Cc: development@qt-project.org; qt-crea...@qt-project.org; Ryein Goddard Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Reque

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-23 Thread Tino Pyssysalo
development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator Hi, Given that no plan has been presented about how this is intended to work in terms of backend or API scope, I stand with my -1 for a qt/ or qt-creator/ repo. If ther

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-23 Thread Robert Löhning
Am 23.02.2018 um 11:54 schrieb Edward Welbourne: André Pönitz (22 February 2018 20:05) Any number for a "measured" value for rate of crashes or memory leaks is uninteresting for me when I run into the problem myself reqularly. And trust me, I do. I trust you. It is, however, possible your usag

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-23 Thread Adam Treat
Turunen; qt-crea...@qt-project.org; development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator Hi, Given that no plan has been presented about how this is intended to work in terms of backend or API scope, I stand with my -1

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-23 Thread Volker Krause
ress the commercial user concerns is certainly possible. Regards, Volker > > From: Development > on behalf of Volker Krause Sent: Friday, February > 23, 2018 10:20:23 AM > To: development@qt-project.org; qt-crea...@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [De

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-23 Thread Edward Welbourne
André Pönitz (22 February 2018 20:05) > Any number for a "measured" value for rate of crashes or memory leaks > is uninteresting for me when I run into the problem myself reqularly. > And trust me, I do. I trust you. It is, however, possible your usage patterns of the UI are not typical; consequen

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-23 Thread Simon Hausmann
half of Tuukka Turunen Sent: Thursday, > February 22, 2018 2:14:14 PM > To: Tino Pyssysalo; qt-crea...@qt-project.org; development@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry > plugin in Qt Creator > > > > Hi, > > > > +

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-23 Thread Tuukka Turunen
> > > From: Development > on behalf of Tuukka Turunen Sent: Thursday, > February 22, 2018 2:14:14 PM > To: Tino Pyssysalo; qt-crea...@qt-project.org; development@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-cr

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-23 Thread Tobias Hunger
Hi Pasi, On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Pasi Keränen wrote: > I object to using “Spyware” term in this context. Spyware is SW that does > things behind your back. I noticed that my mail could be read in the way you read it pretty much right after sending it. I need to apologize for expressin

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-23 Thread Pasi Keränen
Hi Tobias, I planned to stay out of this, but -1 since I am totally confused about the scope of this project at this point. So are we talking about a generic telemetry framework for Qt applications or about watching Qt Creator users specifically? Tino started by making the claim that this is a ge

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-23 Thread Volker Krause
Sent: Thursday, > February 22, 2018 2:14:14 PM > To: Tino Pyssysalo; qt-crea...@qt-project.org; development@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry > plugin in Qt Creator > > > > Hi, > > > >

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-23 Thread Tobias Hunger
Hi Pasi, On Feb 23, 2018 08:05, "Pasi Keränen" wrote: Hi there, +1 for having a generic telemetry plugin in Qt. I planned to stay out of this, but -1 since I am totally confused about the scope of this project at this point. So are we talking about a generic telemetry framework for Qt appli

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-23 Thread Simon Hausmann
Pasi Keränen Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 8:53:33 AM To: Maurice Kalinowski; Tino Pyssysalo; Simon Hausmann; Tuukka Turunen; qt-crea...@qt-project.org; development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator Hi, Repos c

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-22 Thread Pasi Keränen
Pyssysalo , Simon Hausmann , Tuukka Turunen , "qt-crea...@qt-project.org" , "development@qt-project.org" Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator “The idea is to develop a generic library/plugin, which anyone could use for

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-22 Thread Maurice Kalinowski
gt; Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:14:14 PM To: Tino Pyssysalo; qt-crea...@qt-project.org<mailto:qt-crea...@qt-project.org>; development@qt-project.org<mailto:development@qt-project.org> Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Cre

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-22 Thread Pasi Keränen
Hi there, +1 for having a generic telemetry plugin in Qt. This is great initiative and very much the way today's app and application industry works. UX studies performed by UX experts have been minimized and targeted for specific (usually new/experimental) features or upcoming new software (li

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-22 Thread André Pönitz
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 01:58:55PM +, Tino Pyssysalo wrote: > Hi, > > The idea is to develop a generic library/plugin, which anyone could use for > analytics. I see no reason why this can't be done as part of e.g. the commercial Qt offering, with customers being free to deploy that if they fe

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-22 Thread Tomasz Siekierda
Another point: if you do collect usage data, please bear in mind that sometimes a feature can be used very rarely, but still be vital. In other words, do not consider a feature as "unnecessary" or "can be deprecated" if it is not used often. For example, I mostly do mobile and desktop apps, but I

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-22 Thread André Pönitz
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 04:42:55PM +0300, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: > 22.02.2018, 16:39, "Ryein Goddard" : > > This might be nice to make pretty charts to show to managers, but to be > > completely honest I think it is 100% useless.  I fully subscribe to that. > > If you don't know what people >

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-22 Thread Simon Hausmann
uukka Turunen; qt-crea...@qt-project.org; development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator Hi, The idea is to develop a generic library/plugin, which anyone could use for analytics. The backend can be any storage and The

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-22 Thread Marco Bubke
rg Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator Hi, +1 for creating the repo, but what about qt/qtanalytics as a name? This item could be useful also for other applications. Yours, Tuukka From: Qt-cr

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-22 Thread Tino Pyssysalo
t@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator Hi, +1 for creating the repo, but what about qt/qtanalytics as a name? This item could be useful also for other applications. Yours, Tuukka

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-22 Thread Simon Hausmann
hursday, February 22, 2018 2:47:40 PM To: Simon Hausmann; Tino Pyssysalo; qt-crea...@qt-project.org; development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator Hi Simon, Is that an item to decide at repo creation time or something

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-22 Thread Marco Bubke
ect.org; qt-crea...@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator 22.02.2018, 16:39, "Ryein Goddard" : > This might be nice to make pretty charts to show to managers, but to be > completely honest I think it is 100%

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-22 Thread Tuukka Turunen
: Tuukka Turunen , Tino Pyssysalo , "qt-crea...@qt-project.org" , "development@qt-project.org" Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator Hi, Can you provide a bit more information about how this plugin / frontend fits

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-22 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
ity? >> >> (-1 from me, as I think this needs to be clarified) >> >> Simon >> >> From: Development >> on behalf of Tuukka Turunen >> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:14:14 PM >> To: Tino Pyssysalo; qt-c

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-22 Thread Simon Hausmann
on behalf of Tuukka Turunen Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:14:14 PM To: Tino Pyssysalo; qt-crea...@qt-project.org; development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator Hi, +1 for creating the repo, but what about

Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator

2018-02-22 Thread Tuukka Turunen
Hi, +1 for creating the repo, but what about qt/qtanalytics as a name? This item could be useful also for other applications. Yours, Tuukka From: Qt-creator on behalf of Tino Pyssysalo Date: Thursday, 22 February 2018 at 13.04 To: "qt-crea...@qt-project.org" S